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Old 27th January 2005   #1
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Any experience with Guitar Rig (Native Instruments) in terms of studio- AND liveperformances.?

Operating System? host sequencing software? standalone?
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Old 27th January 2005   #2
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Any experience with Guitar Rig (Native Instruments) in terms of studio- AND liveperformances.?

Operating System? host sequencing software? standalone?
Sorry, I can't help.
I'm sure someone will step in.
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I've used it in both PT LE and DP4.5. I used it as a plug in on an Aux send and it was great. Lots to choose from, amp, cabinet, mic, mic placement, reverb, delay, dynamics, eq. It's well worth the $400 or so bucks. It also comes with a foot pedal, but I have yet to use it. It does suck up alot of power.
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I've used it in both PT LE and DP4.5. I used it as a plug in on an Aux send and it was great. Lots to choose from, amp, cabinet, mic, mic placement, reverb, delay, dynamics, eq. It's well worth the $400 or so bucks. It also comes with a foot pedal, but I have yet to use it. It does suck up alot of power.
perhaps the rtas version sucks up power.. cuz yesterday i used 3 of them and it hardly made my cpu meter in nuendo go up.
i'\ usually don't do to many thing with guitar.. some r&b songs or if i use a guitar on my workstations i'll run them through guitar rig for a better guitar sound. i like the plug.. its really easy and stright foward to use.

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XpPro, Nuendo 2, haven't used the standalone. just the plugin
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I thought it sounded terrible.

Not one sound I liked. Everyone I read who likes it raves on the rectifier model. I wouldn't know a good rectifier sound if it bit me in the ass. I can tell you the "twin" sounds not much like a Twin...and the Marshall sounds like some kinda oddly mid scooped Marshall-really tubby.

Both Amplitube and the Line6 GuitarPort did better for me...and both used far less resources.

YMMV.
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i to own amplitude along with rock amp.. i don't use guitars on a everyday basis.. but i can use any of the 3 plugs and end up with a nice guitar sound
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DO YOU APPLY AMPLITUBE TO THE FILE OR USE IT IN LINE?
I used it at my buddies studio and put it on 2 guitar tracks and the bass di and about melted down the DAW.
huge ram hog


I figured it'd be easier to retrack it than listen to the daw sputter for and hour until it decided to stop
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i just use it as the plug.. i don't even trip on cpu power but then again it doesn't take that much power on my system.
i don't like putting it on the input or processing just incase i don't like it
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i've been rockin the demo quite a bit (xppro, cubase sx, vst plug, havent tried it as stand alone). I've been inserting it on the inputs and tracking with it with awesome results. I think it smokes the crap out of amplitube or any of the line6 stuff. It's definately a tweekers plug (lots of buttons and knobs) but once you get used to it you can get great tones pretty quick. I will say the factory presets are terrible. I really like this plug alot. Im a guitar player myself with plenty of expierience on a big portion of the gear modeled in guitar rig.
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it sucks butt. as said above the twin patch sounds nothing like a real one. i'd rather track with a POD than this thing. you want plastic sounding guitars...use guitar rig.
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Wow, this is gonna keep things interesting. I think that Guitar Rig is the BEST amp/fx simulator I've ever messed with. First of all, the presets, especially on that demo, are ****ing TERRIBLE! Please don't judge this program from those. For some reason, all the presets are way too bassy, and all the distortion patches sound really muddy due to pumped up bass knobs. If you get in there and mess with your gains and eq's, you can get some 98% realistic guitar tracks for sure. I really had alot of fun with it. The rectifier model was my favorite. Here is where guitar rig is really sweet.

Go into the demo, and theres a stereo patch with a recto driven hard coming out the one side, and a marshall driven soft coming out the other, and it is a gorgeous rock guitar sound, especially if you go in and give it some more treble. I think the ability to stack multiple amps together, and use stereo 'rigs' is very cool.

I plan on picking it up soon. I tried the Podxt for a while, and I just really wasn't digging it, and the guitar rig interface is absolutely sweet. The pod seemed like it was made for blues and metal guys, and guitar rig had better all around tone for sure!
It is at least equal, and probably better than the pod on almost every level.

The only downside for me is that it was a CPU HOG on my pokey 733mhz G4. Almost unusable while running it with anything else open. Standalone mode worked fine, but as soon as I used it in DP4, it was a nightmare! But my computer is pretty damn slow, so alot of things run slow for me!

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i found it useful for some smooth clean sounds and stuff, but no balls if you need deftones type sounds. For that stuff only the real thing works IMHO
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The pod seemed like it was made for blues and metal guys, and guitar rig had better all around tone for sure!
Let's see...you play electric...but, you're not blues or metal. Cause country's not far removed from blues, and pop-punk isn't far from metal, tonally.

Are you using Guitar Rig for your fab woody semi hollow jazz tones? Maybe your clean pop funk riffs? What sound of guitar are you going for that it delivers better than Amplitube or the POD XT...if they work better for metal and blues?

Maybe that will help someone. I'll tell you what I go for, I'm about Texas blues meets Landau kinda meets modern Nashville session guys. I play two strats-one Texas Special and on Fralin real 54 loaded, and a Tele with a Texas SP Tele bridge and a Dimarzio Twang King on the neck...and I found zilch in Guitar Rig that was close to useable.


But, like everything, YMMV.
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DO YOU APPLY AMPLITUBE TO THE FILE OR USE IT IN LINE?
I used it at my buddies studio and put it on 2 guitar tracks and the bass di and about melted down the DAW.
huge ram hog


I figured it'd be easier to retrack it than listen to the daw sputter for and hour until it decided to stop
I actually had Amplitube on my old system (only 256 MB of RAM) and I could easily run 3 - 4 instances of it with other stuff going on.

I am not a computer guy..but it must have been the way something was configured because Amplitube really isn't too bad..I was actually pleasantly surprised with the amount of RAM it uses.

Good luck with everything though
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Wow, its amazing how extreme peoples opinions of guitar rig are. It ranges from myself absolutely loving it to some guys despising it and not many opinions in between.

There was a thread a while back where some dude was posting mp3 samples of guitar rig. I would really like to see that come back in this thread. My guitar rig demo's trial period ran out but i'll see if i can re-download it and post some samples. I have a line6 duoverb, a tophat emplexador as well as amplitube so if i have time i'll throw a bunch of stuff up. I encourage anyone else to join in on the action. Peace

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Line6 GuitarPort v2 Demo


V-Stack Analog DI/sim Demo

Sorry I couldn't find my little Amplitube noodle session...so, take this full rough mix. The lead guitar is Amplitube:

Should The Harvest Never Come

I naturally didn't make any recordings of Guitar Rig or that Rock Legends...I didn't care enough for either to document it for my future review.

You're right, I think clips are important in discussions like this.
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