SONAR6 Producer Question

oikos · 16th July 2008, 12:28 AM

I need some advice...I'm running SONAR6 Producer alongside a MOTU24io that is interfaced with a 32 Chnl Toft ATB Console...I have enjoyed working with SONAR and the Toft for sometime now, but have become a little frustated with the fact that SONAR6 doesn't allow me to have mono outputs..you know like PT. Logic..etc... I have disabled the pannig law and have come up with a way of working OTB, sending each channel out of SONAR and pannig hard lft and hard right...according to the routing that I need. I was wondering if there is any other way of doing this, or if the option of mono outputs is available for SONAR7, as I'm looking to upgrade...any advice of how to better interface analog OTB and digital recorder is welcomed..thanks

-isaac

tINY · 16th July 2008, 01:07 AM

I haven't used them as such, but in Sonar 7, there is a Stereo/Mono button on the busses. I imagine the output pull-down changes to allow selecting a single output...

-tINY

DontLetMeDrown · 16th July 2008, 02:49 AM

Nope. Even though you can set the interleave on individual tracks, the outputs are still always ganged. Mono has always been wacky in Sonar. You can put stereo plug-ins on a mono track and vice versa. It kinda threw me a curveball when I first started learning DAWs and recording.

tINY · 16th July 2008, 07:42 PM

Still, the mono should send the signal to both outputs regardless of panning...

I guess that's a problem if you don't have enough DAC channels.

Guess you'd be stuck using the old live sound trick of hard-panning to double the subgroups.

-tINY

IzovAge · 16th July 2008, 09:16 PM

I can't answer about Sonar 7's routing, didn't upgrade because there's still problems with the hardware delay compensation, but in 6 I've been routing the same way you have. It's the only way that I'm aware of.

theblue1 · 17th July 2008, 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tINY

Still, the mono should send the signal to both outputs regardless of panning...

I guess that's a problem if you don't have enough DAC channels.

Guess you'd be stuck using the old live sound trick of hard-panning to double the subgroups.

-tINY

Happily, it's not like leaky pan pots. A hard pan in a DAW should work fine, as long as you're careful not to mess up other routing. (Obviously, you have to do some workaround with regards to any buss FX you want to apply individually to one 'side' or the other.)

larrykane · 17th July 2008, 04:14 AM

Although I don't know the names there are freeware plugins to create mono. I think you will have to use a submaster as your master buss though (then routing that to main) so that you an run the plug in the efx bin.

NorseHorse · 17th July 2008, 03:11 PM

There are also stereo/mono buttons on the master tracks in CAKEWALK Home Studio, which is a step down version from SONAR.

Cheers.

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16th July 2008, 12:28 AM	#1
oikos Gear interested Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3	SONAR6 Producer Question I need some advice...I'm running SONAR6 Producer alongside a MOTU24io that is interfaced with a 32 Chnl Toft ATB Console...I have enjoyed working with SONAR and the Toft for sometime now, but have become a little frustated with the fact that SONAR6 doesn't allow me to have mono outputs..you know like PT. Logic..etc... I have disabled the pannig law and have come up with a way of working OTB, sending each channel out of SONAR and pannig hard lft and hard right...according to the routing that I need. I was wondering if there is any other way of doing this, or if the option of mono outputs is available for SONAR7, as I'm looking to upgrade...any advice of how to better interface analog OTB and digital recorder is welcomed..thanks -isaac

16th July 2008, 02:49 AM	#3
DontLetMeDrown Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Camarillo, CA Posts: 1,132	Nope. Even though you can set the interleave on individual tracks, the outputs are still always ganged. Mono has always been wacky in Sonar. You can put stereo plug-ins on a mono track and vice versa. It kinda threw me a curveball when I first started learning DAWs and recording. __________________ Dave Escobar So-Cal Sound Design My New Website My Myspace Page Rock City Studios Orange Whip Recording

17th July 2008, 04:14 AM	#7
larrykane Gear addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 330	Although I don't know the names there are freeware plugins to create mono. I think you will have to use a submaster as your master buss though (then routing that to main) so that you an run the plug in the efx bin. __________________ There are three kinds of people in this world- those who are good at math and those who are not

17th July 2008, 03:11 PM	#8
NorseHorse Gear maniac Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Virginia Posts: 241	Same There are also stereo/mono buttons on the master tracks in CAKEWALK Home Studio, which is a step down version from SONAR. Cheers. __________________ Williamsburg, VA 23186

16th July 2008, 01:07 AM	#2
tINY Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 5,716	I haven't used them as such, but in Sonar 7, there is a Stereo/Mono button on the busses. I imagine the output pull-down changes to allow selecting a single output... -tINY

16th July 2008, 07:42 PM	#4
tINY Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 5,716	Still, the mono should send the signal to both outputs regardless of panning... I guess that's a problem if you don't have enough DAC channels. Guess you'd be stuck using the old live sound trick of hard-panning to double the subgroups. -tINY

16th July 2008, 09:16 PM	#5
IzovAge Gear nut Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: So.Cal Posts: 122	I can't answer about Sonar 7's routing, didn't upgrade because there's still problems with the hardware delay compensation, but in 6 I've been routing the same way you have. It's the only way that I'm aware of.

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