se reflexion filter vs portable voice over booth . . .

[Patrick B.]

I made on of these (click link) to record a male voice over with a loud voice on a shure bg 5.0. All it needed was a little midrange boost and fit the music bed perfect.
The New & Improved Voice Over ?Porta-Booth?

Is it worth it to buy the se reflexion filter over this?
Will I get a dramatic improvement in an untreated room with the se?

[_mg_]

i have the reflexion filter. Used in an un-treated room it does a good job of removing unwanted room reflections. if you sing into it and then move your head to the side and sing into the room you can really hear the difference. The less suitable the room, for recording, the bigger the improvement.

Couple of things i've found when using it:

If you set the mic too deeply inside the filter you will get some tonal colouration, more so if you cardiod settings - omni is less prone.

If not already, find a way of hanging a thick quilt or two behind you (if you're singing) - i got this tip from Sound on Sound and it really does mop up a lot of any other reflections. WIth the SE kit this gives a really dead sound (in a good way)

I can't compare to the one you used, but based purely on seeing the pics, the sE filter looks like it'd be more sturdy and likely to last longer. That said, you'll need a fairly solid mic stand to stop it falling over. Despite it's weight it has a really solid mounting kit.

it's impossible to compare them, but if you're getting a nice clean and reflection-free take, it sounds like you've got a solution already!

[hopeless_opus]

I have not personally used either of these, however I have read A LOT about them. What I understand is that they will both effectively do what they are designed to do.

The advantage of the PVB is it's physical size, which allows it to absorb more sound at the source.

The advantage of the Reflexion Filter is it's layered construction, which allows it to reject more exterior noise.

I don't know which sounds "better", I'm guessing that will be a subjective opinion depending on what a person is looking to get from the device, and how it interacts with that persons room/mic. Since you have had a positive experience with the PVB, I'd say go with that.

[Patrick B.]

Thanks.
I'm going to try an se out and see how it sounds.
My only concern is that the portable vocal booth I made may be coloring the sound and suiting the voice over talent. I'll have to do some tests.

[chris carter]

I prefer the comforter behind the singer method in a "V" shape. More effective than the reflection filter, has ZERO coloration of the sound (other than getting rid of the room, of course), doesn't block sight lines, and doesn't restrict mic positioning.

Downside: not portable.

[hopeless_opus]

Patrick B.,

Sorry, I misread your post. I thought you meant used the the Real Traps PVB:

RealTraps - Portable Vocal Booth

I didn't realize it was something you made. Obviously I can't comment on that. Anyway, if you are considering the SE Reflexion Filter, definately consider the one linked above as well.

[Rukas]

There is also the Mic Thing, which is similar, but half the price of the sE if that is a factor. Comes in white too I just ordered one will be here next week.

[Patrick B.]

I saw that on amazon:http: //www.amazon.com/SMPro-Audio-Thing-Microphone-Isolation/dp/B000T9N2UM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=musical-instruments&qid=1206164147&sr=8-1

Just not sure if it is really an improvement over the diy box that I linked in my 1st post.

[yoink]

Originally Posted by _mg_

i have the reflexion filter. Used in an un-treated room it does a good job of removing unwanted room reflections. if you sing into it and then move your head to the side and sing into the room you can really hear the difference. The less suitable the room, for recording, the bigger the improvement.

Couple of things i've found when using it:

If you set the mic too deeply inside the filter you will get some tonal colouration, more so if you cardiod settings - omni is less prone.

If not already, find a way of hanging a thick quilt or two behind you (if you're singing) - i got this tip from Sound on Sound and it really does mop up a lot of any other reflections. WIth the SE kit this gives a really dead sound (in a good way)

I have the Portable Vocal Booth and all the above applies as well.

[dreamdevelopment]

Sharing the wealth...

Hey in case you guys didnt know Home Depot and your local fabric store
now has a PRO AUDIO department.. I just created this account so i could
show you guys my creation that with an A/B test sounds identical to have
the 300 dollar SE Reflextion Filer. So I am very happy I made this
under 40 dollar investment. Plus i had enough to make effective back
traps for the wall behind it so when you turn the shield around in the
corner its like mini vocal booth. very good for my untreated room. I
just mounted the foam and fabric to a couple pieces of thin vinyl wood
stuff kinda like a dry erase board but about 3 feet by 5 feet and put
picture anchors on the back and blammo put em on tha wall! I will never
spend 300 bucks on a reflextion shield.
Using these items i built this...

Mesh screen - 9.99
some bolts - few dollars
2 inch Foam from a matress pad - 10 bucks
Covered with red fabric - 2 bucks for a yard
1/2 inch foam - 99 cents
Zip ties to fasten the first layer of foam - 47 cents
adhesive spray - 6 dollars.
old mic mount so shield can attach to ANY mic stand - FREE

The reassurance that your vocals will be free from bouncing waves -
PRICELESS hahaha. had to add that in there!

Check out the pictures:
Trust me it took about an hour or so but it was WELL worth this time
invested.

http://www.dreamsdevelop.com/pics/s1.jpg
http://www.dreamsdevelop.com/pics/s2.jpg
http://www.dreamsdevelop.com/pics/f2.jpg

[Driveby Studios]

I just invested in the SE Reflexion Filter.

I did alot of research and I opted to go for the DIY Rockwool panels. I built 6 panels, however, even after placing them around the room, the room sound was still evident - my room is just too big and too reflective.

My reason f is that the SE Reflexion filter will reduce alot of the initial sound before it hits the walls, whilst my sound panels will then absorb the remaining sound reflections.

Not every room sounds good even after the DIY sound panels, so I think a combination of sound panels, and a reflection filter will be able to create great vocals for studios without expensive acoustic treatment.

Hope that helps!

[afterjohn]

I just had a session using this SE Reflection filter. Must say I was very impressed with the results. We had a thick, cushy quilt hanging behind the vocalist as well.