Quested s8r or adam p11a?

[HeatMan]

hey there! this would be the bigest choise in my life till now.. I dont have any money :) , but I'll borrow some.. so, yeah this is breaking the bank for me.. :D

I was allways impressed by the sound of A.D.A.M.'s but, I'ld like to consult with you guys..

the genres played on them will be numerous.. so, I'll need an "allrounder"..

from hip hop, (moddern) R'n'b, to Hard Rock, Mettal, D'n'B, breakbeat, electro, rock ballades etc etc.. so, from the "softest" to the "baddest"..

and yeah, if you have any other suggestions (in this price range), feel free to speak up..

btw, the room they'll be in is accousticaly treathed (pretty good, I might say) and is about 39 m3..

Thanks..

Peace and luv from serbia :)

[SeanG]

First, I haven't heard the S8R's in my space, and I own P11's. So I'm just going to look at stats...

S8R's
300 x 430 x 370 mm
Drivers are 200mm
50 Hz-20 kHz ± 2 dB
110 dB (c) continuous pink noise @ 1 m (122 dB (c) per pair RMS music)
Price estimate $3300 per pair.


P11a's
210 x 330 x 280mm
Drivers are 182mm
48Hz - 35kHz (± 3 dB)
100W (sin), 150W (RMS)
Price estimate $2000 per pair

I very happy with my P11's... what I've heard of the quested they seem quite nice… I'm sure you could make great music with either.

But based on your finances the price point of the Adams has to heavily bias you decision toward them.
However if you know borrowing and paying back $3300 is not a problem, your in the range to add a Adam sub and bring your Freq response down to about 30Hz. That would be very beneficial for you based on some of the music styles your working in and the fact that your room is already treated.
If you’re not interested in a sub, but still in the $3000 range you could look at Adam P22’s.

P22’s
260 x 430 x 340mm
Drivers are 220mm
38Hz - 35kHz (± 3 dB)
100W (sin), 150W (RMS)
Price estimate $2500 per pair

Hope this helps.

[HeatMan]

thanks... but, I've ****ed up.. it's not s8r.. it's just S8...


my friend bought this pair for (just!) 1500 euros... and the adam is in that price range.. :)

btw, I've worked on p22a and, thats when I've falled in love with adam's... I think that I wont need a sub... I'm working on tapco s8 for years... so, Im used to the sound of 8" driver.. and the bass mixes are very good... as good as overall mixes... but, the tapcos are notorious liars.. :) and the time has come to change them.. :)

[SeanG]

Originally Posted by HeatMan

thanks... but, I've ****ed up.. it's not s8r.. it's just S8...


my friend bought this pair for (just!) 1500 euros... and the adam is in that price range.. :)

btw, I've worked on p22a and, thats when I've falled in love with adam's... I think that I wont need a sub... I'm working on tapco s8 for years... so, Im used to the sound of 8" driver.. and the bass mixes are very good... as good as overall mixes... but, the tapcos are notorious liars.. :) and the time has come to change them.. :)

ahhh I see...

If you’re familiar and pleased with the P22's, I'd think that should probably stitch it up for you, given the similarities in the Adams... same amp... same tweeter... similar cab design.

[Roc Mixwell]

Originally Posted by SeanG

If you’re not interested in a sub, but still in the $3000 range you could look at Adam P22’s.

The P22's are a solid choice for the style of music you are going to be working on. They are invaluable tools, in my opinion, as I do A LOT of hip hop production and they are simply wonderful for my application. They give me exactly what I need; completely unbiased frequency response.

I might also recommend the P33's as they are also in your price range, and would offer a bit more versatility working on many different styles of music. I have also found them to have a more focused mid-range clarity, from the dual woofer design, that will be must in working towards translation to other re-production speakers like the AM clock radio and crappy full range ghetto blasters.

[HeatMan]

If I've had that ammount of money, no doubt, the p33 would be my choise.. but, within the limit of 1500 euros, I'ld have to kill someone here to get another K.. :?

peace.. :)

[HeatMan]

ok, the dealer just added this to my list:

adam p33a for just 1750 euros (wich is only 250 euros above the limit.. I dont have any money, so money is not a problem..) <so I'm witdrawing back my word from the previous post..

or

quested sv2108 passive with quad 405 amp for them for 1650 euros..

both of them are new, direct shipped from the workhouse..

Im in a bigger dilemma than I was.. :?

do you have any experiance with those monitors? :? the reviews of both of them, are really great.. I've read it all.. the SOS reviews, the fm and cm review.. and I cant deside wich will I prefer the most.. the thing is, I cant hear them here.. 'cause there is no real dealer here.. so I must believe in your judgement.. so please help me..

I'll be doing a lot of various music genres, and I'll nead an "allrounders".. :?

from the things I've heard, the adams are poor on the bass.. mudded and very fluid (in a bad way), and the mid range is "very harsh".. so, I assume that they are not for me... :?

on the other side, I've heard that the sv2108 have a great bass extension and are very precise in all ranges..

I dont know who to believe anymore.. :? I've heard the p22a and they werent harsh nor muddy.. :? so, I can only assume that the p33 are a bit better than p22.. :?

please help me folks.. this is a very big thing for me!


peace and luv from serbia

[SkyLogic]

Go for the Quested's

[HeatMan]

you think? why? I'm begginig to love the comments about the quested's.. I'm going to a friends studio, and I'm going to compare s8r and p11a.. if the s8 wins the test, I'll go for the bigger brother.. the vs2108.. if the adams win, I'll go for the p33a.. are my conclusions right? if the s8 is better than p11, the p33 would be better than sv2108? :? I mean.. ****.. I dont know what to think anymore.. :?

[SkyLogic]

Not necessarily.
The Quested S*R series are based on their classic S* series monitors with a few "extras and improvements". The VS series is based on a completely different and newer design. Both sound very different from each other.
The VS series are a very accurate monitor in every way, where as the S*R series seem to accentuate something that I cant quite put my finger on but sound magnificent.

It ALWAYS comes down to personal preference when choosing monitors..... although a majority of people will usually say the same thing about a make of monitor.

Go for Quested if you can. Remember.... The VS series are super detailed and have great stereo imaging and depth but the S*R series have something that make them sound great. Its up to you.

PS. Dont go for something too big for your room!!!

[AKAT-1]

I have VS2108's and have used many Questeds over the years and they are the only monitors I've found that I can rely on for my mixes to translate well to other speakers.

They are easy to listen to for hours on end whilst still being detailed enough for critical listening and unless you monitor at very high levels they will not let you down.

Try them out and don't listen to other people that have invested in because they all want to believe that they have the best ones.

The Questeds work for me and I have never had anything but praise for them from the people I've worked with. I can't stand NS10's or Genelecs though and plenty of people love them.

It's what ever works for you at the end of the day- just make sure they aren't to hyped because they will start to annoy you after half a day..

[Roc Mixwell]

Originally Posted by HeatMan

ok, the dealer just added this to my list:

adam p33a for just 1750 euros (wich is only 250 euros above the limit.. I dont have any money, so money is not a problem..) <so I'm witdrawing back my word from the previous post..

or

quested sv2108 passive with quad 405 amp for them for 1650 euros..

both of them are new, direct shipped from the workhouse..

Im in a bigger dilemma than I was.. :?

do you have any experiance with those monitors? :? the reviews of both of them, are really great.. I've read it all.. the SOS reviews, the fm and cm review.. and I cant deside wich will I prefer the most.. the thing is, I cant hear them here.. 'cause there is no real dealer here.. so I must believe in your judgement.. so please help me..

I'll be doing a lot of various music genres, and I'll nead an "allrounders".. :?

from the things I've heard, the adams are poor on the bass.. mudded and very fluid (in a bad way), and the mid range is "very harsh".. so, I assume that they are not for me... :?

on the other side, I've heard that the sv2108 have a great bass extension and are very precise in all ranges..

I dont know who to believe anymore.. :? I've heard the p22a and they werent harsh nor muddy.. :? so, I can only assume that the p33 are a bit better than p22.. :?

please help me folks.. this is a very big thing for me!


peace and luv from serbia

Dude, if people think the ADAM's are "muddy" then I might offer, that their mixes are muddy,

This is NOT the case with ADAM speakers, yes they are reveling and accurate, but NEVER muddy. To my ears anyway.

I would say that the P33's have a very clear and detailed midrange that allows the mixer to clearly hear what the problems/attributes are in the recording. the P22's are bit BIGGER in the bottom, simply because of the physical size of the box and the drivers. But the p33's ROCK for every app under the sun,

To me...........All of the ADAM P series aren't lack in the lower octaves,

[HeatMan]

ok, I've been in my friend's studio and:

adam p11a - very tight bottom end, useless (for me) when not mached with a sub, mids and higs are clear as hell.. but, having a close look (when I've played the refference cd's) I've discovered:

they are revealing, BUT they just cover up the not-too-bad mixes, and the good mixes feel just fine on them.. first, I've listened to the "audioslave - show me how to live" track (the mix is good, very good but not the greatest) and the snare was poping right like it should, the guitars were just right.. overall 5pts

on the other side (the s8r), I've noticed some things I didn't till now.. a few times morello (guitars) mutes his strings, and there was no sound of the guitar part at all.. in a few seconds.. ok, I've noticed that, but on my monitors (tapco s8) and on adam's that isn't that noticable (or however you spell it) :) there is a bit of "reverb" of some kind.. not exacly a reverb (I can't really define that), but the sound isnt even close to the quested's.. 5+1pts

second track - audioslave "be yourself track" (the mix is close to brilliant -the sound I'm trying to achieve when mixing rock music).. the playback was, good but a little too harsh for my opinion.. the mids and higs were snaping and popping, and I didn't like that at all.. bass? it was there, but a little bit hidden.. I know, the p33a will cover up the bass freq, but the art tweeter is the same.. the dot on the kick drum was punching me in the eye.. 2pts

the quested s8r? just as it should be.. revealing. precise on the mid's and hig's, and bass was very well reproduced.. 5pts

so, let's go to the third track:

50 cent feat olivia - "candy shop" - dre did a masterpiece with that (and with a bunch of following tracks like "possition of power" and "so amasyng" , that is offcourse, my oppinion.. the sound was good, the kick was tight but there was no freq bellow that (and the p11a was setted up to flat).. the middles and highs were, again a bit to harsh for my taste.. 3pts

again the s8r's won the round, by not being a hi fi emulation, with a stereo picture of great studio monitors.. the kick was tight like ti should be, the sub bass freq was realy neat and the mids and higs were right where they should be.. I could even hear 50 switching his paper sides when rapping..

then we come to kanye west "stronger" single, and "ayo tehnology" performed by 50 justin and timbo (shitty mixes, for my standards..).. the playback was nothing I've expected.. the songs could be ranked as a "good mix".. and this is ADAM's ground.. the highs and mid freq's just didnt sound bad at all.. It was evident that the mix is not a brilliant one, but I couldnt rank em into "poor mixes" when I've listened the songs on p11a's.. so that's when my exscitement about the ART tehnology dropped.. 0pts

the s8r's didnt make up the bad mix.. u could really hear that the mic was great (ayo tech) and that the other isntruments did had to be brought into the picture.. at the "stronger" track, the kicks were dull and awfull (like they are) and u could hear all of the synths played in the song.. 5pts


the next was pendulum and crystal method therapy.. they were good, but when listened to the first crystal method album's songs, they've sounded good.. at pendulum tracks, you couldnt even hear the bass line like it was supposed to be.. it was too punchy and harsh.. yet again, the adam's failed the test.. 0pts

s8r: pendulum - all the freq's were reproduced clearly, and the bass was tight and sawing your brains out.. like a square bass is supposed to sound like.. :? the crystal method's first album tracks (cant remember the names of the songs), RMS is low, bass is too booming, the mix is awful and the sr8's get 5pts.

then I've listened to warren g's "looking at you" a simple but a great mix, and so funk's "love gone wrong" a excelent and crystal clear mix.. the adam's were harsh as a winter on a south pole, and I barely could listen to them.. my ears and head started hurting right on.. 0pts

while on the s8r every sound was crystal clear and just as it should be. it was floating nicely and the mixes sounded great as they are.. the clap on the "love gone rong" track was as crisp as it should be.. 5pts

the last, bud not the least were few of my tracks.. you can listen to them on MySpace.com - Salliery - strip junak - Belgrade, Beograd - Hip Hop - www.myspace.com/lacasanostra (serbian hip hop) and MySpace.com - The Speakerz - - Breakbeat / Electro / Drum & Bass - www.myspace.com/thespeakerz (I'ld call it experimental film electro music for now, 'cause you can't put not one track into only one genre and get away with it)

the sound on adam's was superb.. realy, I've got an erection, while playing back on quested s8r's I had a feeling that I'm really listening the tracks on a real monitoring system.. (yet again) :) the stereo imaging was great, and I was, sincerely, very proud to listen to my tracks on that system..

I know what my tracks look like, since I've listened to them on a numerous monitors (ns10, hr824, some genelec's, the new digidesigns etc etc) and speakers.. (including 2.1 "home theater", car audio system etc etc) so I know what my tracks soud like.. in serbia, they call it "exceptional", but I'ld like to rank them as "pretty good"..

all of the tracks were played back for each monitor pair separatelly, on a resonable SPL level (a quarter of the maximum, and then on a half of a maximum input level), both pairs were set to flat, in a room that was acousticaly treathed..

my opinion: quested deliver a real sound picture to the listener, without any colloring or harshness.. the s8r's are exceptional.. couldn't find another word.. they are brylliant.. a monitoring system that I've was searching for.. the only thing I didn't like, they could get a bit messy in the sub bass levels (bellow 45hz) and that's not a plus.. so, if I could buy the vh2108 for a 1300 euros, and buy a quad405II for 300 euros, and have a real quested sound, with the bass extension, then I'll go for them..

about the adams.. I will almost very likely buy them just to use as a "refference" monitorig system.. them or the ns10's.. anyway, the sound of p11a was very close to the a7's (wich I've heard before) and that is baaaaaad.. so, if I would buy the adam's, I'ld go for the a7's.. and most likely, I will..

any other suggestions? I'm still open for them.. :) untill it's too late.. :)

oh, and one more thing: the stereo imaging is great on both of the systems, but I came to notice that s8r's have a bit larger sweet spot as well as a wider stereo picture..


peace everyone..

[rumimusic]

i just posted my p11's in the classifieds if anyone is interested.

[nicolasmasset]

Originally Posted by HeatMan

ok, the dealer just added this to my list:

adam p33a for just 1750 euros (wich is only 250 euros above the limit.. I dont have any money, so money is not a problem..) <so I'm witdrawing back my word from the previous post..

or

quested sv2108 passive with quad 405 amp for them for 1650 euros..

both of them are new, direct shipped from the workhouse..

Im in a bigger dilemma than I was.. :?

Would you mind telling us which dealer got you those prices? :o
The sites I'm always on are musicstore.de and thomann, but they don't carry questeds ... :(

[Kimakaz]

Attended a shootout 2/3 weeks ago between Adam S3A, Quested S8, Genelec 8050a, Dynaudio BM6a mkII.

Had about 10/12 hours of mixing over 3/4 days.

Big losers for me were the Quested S8.
I had heard some great things, but big disappointment, no low end for the size, and how to explain.... they sounded like a cardboard. Shocked.

Big winners. Adam S3A.
Depth, imaging, clarity....

[nicolasmasset]

That's funny, I just got off the phone with a quested dealer who told me he found genelecs and adams to be the most hifi, and quested to be what it is.
He also noted an interesting bit about adams that I also had noticed but couldn't quite pinpoint: he said the stereo imaging was too wide with adams, that it's unnatural. I kindof agree with him. With adams, the music almost surrounds you, which maybe is overkill indeed, since your working in stereo and not surround..

I also brought up the low end specs of the s8r's, being 50hz. He told me quested's specs are what they are, and sometimes other manufacturors specs saying 38hz for example, are merely theoretical, and might not be that accurate.

He also said questeds were monitors you really needed to sweat for to make things sound right, but when you get a good mix, it translates perfectly elsewhere.

His opinion is of course a bit biased as he works for the company, but still, some interesting points to look out for when testing..

The thing that intrigues me most is the promise of low end accurasy at low levels. The thing that annoys me the most is that the amp needs a 30min warmup each time you boot up.

Oh well, I'm going to demo all of them soon so guess time will tell..

Kimakaz, I do think the comparison you're making isn't quite the fair one, the s3a's are almost twice the price of the questeds! And what does a cardboard sound like? :)

[Speeddemon]

Originally Posted by Kimakaz

Attended a shootout 2/3 weeks ago between Adam S3A, Quested S8, Genelec 8050a, Dynaudio BM6a mkII.

Had about 10/12 hours of mixing over 3/4 days.

Big losers for me were the Quested S8.
I had heard some great things, but big disappointment, no low end for the size, and how to explain.... they sounded like a cardboard. Shocked.

Big winners. Adam S3A.
Depth, imaging, clarity....

What's your take on the Dynaudio's then?

[Beastie]

Quested for VIBING

ADAM for acccuracy in mixing....

personally i use PMC but like ADAM, Quested and Focal

peace

[nicolasmasset]

Hi Skylogic,

In the quested s8 vs adam p11 thread, you gave a little explanation of the difference between the s series and the sr's.

Am I right to conclude that the s8's are the straight ones and the s8r's the ones with the rounded corners?

I've got a pair of straight ones at home right now for testing, and they're quite frankly amazing, but if I were to order questeds, they'd most likely send me newer s8r's.
I once heard that the newer ones were merely a cosmetic update, but seeing as the newer ones have their bass ports on a completely different place than before, shouldn't that affect the sound quite substantially? I mean, the design of the old ones with the ports between the drivers was the design quested himself had been "perfecting over the last 20 years"..

Any thoughts? Or links on where I can read more about the "improvements" they made on the sr series?

Kind regards.

Nicolas

PS: Adam S2A gave the S8's a run for their money, but imaging isn't as precise and deep!

PPS: I'm going to post this in the thread too for other people to comment! Many thanks!

PPPS: Anyone care to elaborate on the sonic differences between the S8(R)'s and the VS2108's?

[cooker]

Originally Posted by HeatMan

ok, I've been in my friend's studio and:

adam p11a - very tight bottom end, useless (for me) when not mached with a sub, mids and higs are clear as hell.. but, having a close look (when I've played the refference cd's) I've discovered:

they are revealing, BUT they just cover up the not-too-bad mixes, and the good mixes feel just fine on them.. first, I've listened to the "audioslave - show me how to live" track (the mix is good, very good but not the greatest) and the snare was poping right like it should, the guitars were just right.. overall 5pts

on the other side (the s8r), I've noticed some things I didn't till now.. a few times morello (guitars) mutes his strings, and there was no sound of the guitar part at all.. in a few seconds.. ok, I've noticed that, but on my monitors (tapco s8) and on adam's that isn't that noticable (or however you spell it) :) there is a bit of "reverb" of some kind.. not exacly a reverb (I can't really define that), but the sound isnt even close to the quested's.. 5+1pts

second track - audioslave "be yourself track" (the mix is close to brilliant -the sound I'm trying to achieve when mixing rock music).. the playback was, good but a little too harsh for my opinion.. the mids and higs were snaping and popping, and I didn't like that at all.. bass? it was there, but a little bit hidden.. I know, the p33a will cover up the bass freq, but the art tweeter is the same.. the dot on the kick drum was punching me in the eye.. 2pts

the quested s8r? just as it should be.. revealing. precise on the mid's and hig's, and bass was very well reproduced.. 5pts

so, let's go to the third track:

50 cent feat olivia - "candy shop" - dre did a masterpiece with that (and with a bunch of following tracks like "possition of power" and "so amasyng" , that is offcourse, my oppinion.. the sound was good, the kick was tight but there was no freq bellow that (and the p11a was setted up to flat).. the middles and highs were, again a bit to harsh for my taste.. 3pts

again the s8r's won the round, by not being a hi fi emulation, with a stereo picture of great studio monitors.. the kick was tight like ti should be, the sub bass freq was realy neat and the mids and higs were right where they should be.. I could even hear 50 switching his paper sides when rapping..

then we come to kanye west "stronger" single, and "ayo tehnology" performed by 50 justin and timbo (shitty mixes, for my standards..).. the playback was nothing I've expected.. the songs could be ranked as a "good mix".. and this is ADAM's ground.. the highs and mid freq's just didnt sound bad at all.. It was evident that the mix is not a brilliant one, but I couldnt rank em into "poor mixes" when I've listened the songs on p11a's.. so that's when my exscitement about the ART tehnology dropped.. 0pts

the s8r's didnt make up the bad mix.. u could really hear that the mic was great (ayo tech) and that the other isntruments did had to be brought into the picture.. at the "stronger" track, the kicks were dull and awfull (like they are) and u could hear all of the synths played in the song.. 5pts


the next was pendulum and crystal method therapy.. they were good, but when listened to the first crystal method album's songs, they've sounded good.. at pendulum tracks, you couldnt even hear the bass line like it was supposed to be.. it was too punchy and harsh.. yet again, the adam's failed the test.. 0pts

s8r: pendulum - all the freq's were reproduced clearly, and the bass was tight and sawing your brains out.. like a square bass is supposed to sound like.. :? the crystal method's first album tracks (cant remember the names of the songs), RMS is low, bass is too booming, the mix is awful and the sr8's get 5pts.

then I've listened to warren g's "looking at you" a simple but a great mix, and so funk's "love gone wrong" a excelent and crystal clear mix.. the adam's were harsh as a winter on a south pole, and I barely could listen to them.. my ears and head started hurting right on.. 0pts

while on the s8r every sound was crystal clear and just as it should be. it was floating nicely and the mixes sounded great as they are.. the clap on the "love gone rong" track was as crisp as it should be.. 5pts

the last, bud not the least were few of my tracks.. you can listen to them on MySpace.com - Salliery - strip junak - Belgrade, Beograd - Hip Hop - www.myspace.com/lacasanostra (serbian hip hop) and MySpace.com - The Speakerz - - Breakbeat / Electro / Drum & Bass - www.myspace.com/thespeakerz (I'ld call it experimental film electro music for now, 'cause you can't put not one track into only one genre and get away with it)

the sound on adam's was superb.. realy, I've got an erection, while playing back on quested s8r's I had a feeling that I'm really listening the tracks on a real monitoring system.. (yet again) :) the stereo imaging was great, and I was, sincerely, very proud to listen to my tracks on that system..

I know what my tracks look like, since I've listened to them on a numerous monitors (ns10, hr824, some genelec's, the new digidesigns etc etc) and speakers.. (including 2.1 "home theater", car audio system etc etc) so I know what my tracks soud like.. in serbia, they call it "exceptional", but I'ld like to rank them as "pretty good"..

all of the tracks were played back for each monitor pair separatelly, on a resonable SPL level (a quarter of the maximum, and then on a half of a maximum input level), both pairs were set to flat, in a room that was acousticaly treathed..

my opinion: quested deliver a real sound picture to the listener, without any colloring or harshness.. the s8r's are exceptional.. couldn't find another word.. they are brylliant.. a monitoring system that I've was searching for.. the only thing I didn't like, they could get a bit messy in the sub bass levels (bellow 45hz) and that's not a plus.. so, if I could buy the vh2108 for a 1300 euros, and buy a quad405II for 300 euros, and have a real quested sound, with the bass extension, then I'll go for them..

about the adams.. I will almost very likely buy them just to use as a "refference" monitorig system.. them or the ns10's.. anyway, the sound of p11a was very close to the a7's (wich I've heard before) and that is baaaaaad.. so, if I would buy the adam's, I'ld go for the a7's.. and most likely, I will..

any other suggestions? I'm still open for them.. :) untill it's too late.. :)

oh, and one more thing: the stereo imaging is great on both of the systems, but I came to notice that s8r's have a bit larger sweet spot as well as a wider stereo picture..


peace everyone..

Can't disagree more on your evaluations. If you are looking monitors for mastering then maybe listening to mastered tracks ok but you aren't. You should have mixed with both of them when you had the chance to try them in your friends studio.

[Kronos147]

Monitors for me is translation. How does the mix you do on those monitors sound in the real world?

When I got my new monitors I brought them around to a few places to hear them against some other speakers. When I heard the quested, and sorry, I don't remember which ones, but 8" 2 way model. Sounded honkey to my ears, much like a large version of an NS-10. Too much overlap on the x-over? I don't know.

Dynaudio DB6A's: I really, really liked these monitors. However, they were a tad "hyped" in the lows and highs to I tended not to color correctly as a result.

ADAM's: I hear a mix I just worked on over at Barry Rudolph's place on ADAMs and an Avocet. I was like "that is exactly like it sounded at my place." Again, at the 500 series mic pre shootout, James (Lugo) had some ADAMs in the room that I liked very much.

FWIW.

[duvalle]

i like the combination of adam p11a and Sub 10 MKII a lot.
very clear and honest imho.
i don't think adam sound harsh or muddy as mentioned by some here ...

[HeatMan]

Originally Posted by nicolasmasset

Would you mind telling us which dealer got you those prices? :o
The sites I'm always on are musicstore.de and thomann, but they don't carry questeds ... :(

sorry for the slight delay, I totally forgot 'bout this forum.. :)

anyhoo, I'm from Serbia and this isn't a legal deal.. :) they aren't stolen, but I ain't payin any taxes or so.. this price is made by the manufacuter, and all the cash goes to him..

and, yeah.. I've got a yamaha pc2002 amp to pair in with my quested's.. what do yaall think about this amp?

[nicolasmasset]

Originally Posted by HeatMan

sorry for the slight delay, I totally forgot 'bout this forum.. :)

anyhoo, I'm from Serbia and this isn't a legal deal.. :) they aren't stolen, but I ain't payin any taxes or so.. this price is made by the manufacuter, and all the cash goes to him..

and, yeah.. I've got a yamaha pc2002 amp to pair in with my quested's.. what do yaall think about this amp?

Okay, too bad for us! :)