What is the point of buying PT new plugs ???

[Maddaroad]

What is the point of buying plugs-ins for PT when you will have to buy then again when the newer PT is coming ?
So many times i've tried run an old PT session, telling me X Eqs and Y comps are missing !
Do we rather work on the originals digi plugs and buy an hardware gear instead ?

[nadarecording]

I agree with this 100%. I find no use in buying new plug-ins. I have a few that I purchased back in the day that I continue to use so I will be forced into buying those again when the time comes. Hardware is where it's at for me.

[nukmusic]

the find myself using the stock RTAS plugins more and more. (all except the reverbs)

[Jonboy79]

Originally Posted by nukmusic

the find myself using the stock RTAS plugins more and more. (all except the reverbs)

Me too, besides the massey plugs and Wave Arts MasterVerb5 I only use the stock eq3, dynamics3, and the effects that came with ptle. I've just grown to learn that I need to get the sound I want from the start instead of using all kinds of expensive plugins to get me there, it's actually lead to much better sounding mixes.

[A LaMere]

huh?? If the eq's and comp's are on your ilock?

Then updating would just mean re-installing and allowing the ilock to recognize the programs right?

I haven't had PT for long enough to have ever had this problem I guess?? but I have updated the PTLE a few times... since 6. something or other anyways...

[audioboffin]

Originally Posted by A LaMere

huh?? If the eq's and comp's are on your ilock?

Then updating would just mean re-installing and allowing the ilock to recognize the programs right?

I haven't had PT for long enough to have ever had this problem I guess?? but I have updated the PTLE a few times... since 6. something or other anyways...

Unfortunately whenever there is a major upgrade to Pro Tools, it seems that quite often plugins don't work. In some cases the plugin manufacturer will supply a new version for free, but in other cases they will charge for the upgraded plugin. Meanwhile the old hardware keeps kicking along...

[Beyersound]

Originally Posted by audioboffin

Unfortunately whenever there is a major upgrade to Pro Tools, it seems that quite often plugins don't work. In some cases the plugin manufacturer will supply a new version for free, but in other cases they will charge for the upgraded plugin. Meanwhile the old hardware keeps kicking along...

Sounds like time to switch to a DAW software that uses VST plugins!!!!
Don't let the "integrated solution" proprietary engineering syndrome drain your wallet. Unless you have money to burn!

[audioboffin]

Originally Posted by Beyersound

Sounds like time to switch to a DAW software that uses VST plugins!!!!
Don't let the "integrated solution" proprietary engineering syndrome drain your wallet. Unless you have money to burn!

Do you think that VTS's sound better than PT plugs? As a mix engine, I think Nuendo sounds better than PT, but generally I think that the plugins sound better in Pro Tools. First thing I want is a hardware mixer, or at least a passive mix bus...

[Beyersound]

Originally Posted by audioboffin

Do you think that VTS's sound better than PT plugs? As a mix engine, I think Nuendo sounds better than PT, but generally I think that the plugins sound better in Pro Tools. First thing I want is a hardware mixer, or at least a passive mix bus...

Hi Audioboffin, I run SX3 and have an HD rig I use at work. I definitely prefer the Steinberg mix engine sound to PT. As for the plugins, I think mine sound better in SX, maybe a function of the audio engine. I don't know which ones you have, it could be a function of the way TDM or rtas version is written. I have 2 UAD-1 cards, Hydratone and Angeltone (you must check them out!) and a large Waves bundle (Ren series, etc...). I really prefer the way VST plugs cost half of what TDMs do! Cheers

[AMIEL]

well that is not totally true! MCDSP give you free updates !
I am sure many other companies would do that.

[audioboffin]

Originally Posted by Beyersound

Hi Audioboffin, I run SX3 and have an HD rig I use at work. I definitely prefer the Steinberg mix engine sound to PT. As for the plugins, I think mine sound better in SX, maybe a function of the audio engine. I don't know which ones you have, it could be a function of the way TDM or rtas version is written. I have 2 UAD-1 cards, Hydratone and Angeltone (you must check them out!) and a large Waves bundle (Ren series, etc...). I really prefer the way VST plugs cost half of what TDMs do! Cheers

I work with PT HD rigs, one older Mix cube system and a couple of LE rigs, mine at home on a Mac quad Intel. I'm pretty well convinced now that the PT mix bus (on all variants) is not a great summer... due to maths? Isn't the Steinberg mix bus 32 bit floating point and the PT TDM mix bus 48 bit fixed? Maybe it's the way that PT gets rid of the lower bits that is inferior? I'm not sure, but I've been mixing ITB for 8 years now, and I keep wanting to get back to "real hardware" summing.

Plugins can be great, but the longer I stare at a screen the more I think about mic choices and positions to alter sonics...

[Beyersound]

Originally Posted by audioboffin

I work with PT HD rigs, one older Mix cube system and a couple of LE rigs, mine at home on a Mac quad Intel. I'm pretty well convinced now that the PT mix bus (on all variants) is not a great summer... due to maths? Isn't the Steinberg mix bus 32 bit floating point and the PT TDM mix bus 48 bit fixed? Maybe it's the way that PT gets rid of the lower bits that is inferior? I'm not sure, but I've been mixing ITB for 8 years now, and I keep wanting to get back to "real hardware" summing.

Plugins can be great, but the longer I stare at a screen the more I think about mic choices and positions to alter sonics...

I agree my good man, but it is tough to change mic choices and positions when someone else sends you their tracks to mix!!!! LOL

[audioboffin]

Originally Posted by Beyersound

I agree my good man, but it is tough to change mic choices and positions when someone else sends you their tracks to mix!!!! LOL

Ok, so we have all heard about the "talent plugin" and the "old dog, new tricks" plugin, next cab off the rank should be the "reverse engineering" plugin, where you can use the elastic time to go back and fix what is 5h1t :=))

[Beyersound]

Originally Posted by audioboffin

Ok, so we have all heard about the "talent plugin" and the "old dog, new tricks" plugin, next cab off the rank should be the "reverse engineering" plugin, where you can use the elastic time to go back and fix what is 5h1t :=))

I have plugins, I have hardware, I can't seem to find anything to do that!!!!