Originally Posted by Saxy
I definitely don't want to skip the Rosetta. It's A/D conversion sounds great.
What about this...
Plug the three pre's into analog inputs 5, 6, 7 on the 003 rack.
Plug output 1 from the 003 rack into the input of the Tape FX.
Plug the output of the tape fx into input 8 on the 003 rack.
Then take output 2 of the 003 rack to the input on the Rosetta for A/D conversion.
To record from the pre's only, just choose one of those inputs in pro tools, and use output 2 on the 003 rack into the Rosetta.
To use any pre with the tape fx unit....record the track first through a pre, then, send the recorded track through output 1 on the 003 rack to the input of the tape fx unit, and re-record it back in through input 8 on the 003 rack.
Then I only have to manually change the mic to the pre amp.
How does this sound?
Will this work?
Summing up some of these points from people:
If you look at a PT session, where you can insert plugins, you've also got the option for hardware inserts. You'll notice these come in stereo pairs, and inputs and outputs need to correspond.
So, for example, you can connect your Portico tape sim inputs to output 7/8, return on inputs 7/8. Then, try importing a stereo mix of a track to PT, and putting choosing "7-8" as a hardware insert. you should be able to see the track going through the Portico, and be able to process it as if the Portico was patched into the insert of an analogue board.
Now, this is going to induce a latency, since it's going out through a digital converter, and back in again. This latency will vary depending on buffer size, so you need to compensate for this. There's more than one way to do it, but I'd suggest once you have a sound you like, internally bussing the output of the processed track to a new audio track, recording the processed track, and nudging it earlier in time to line up with the unprocessed one, and then disabling the original track.
Now, with your mic pres and rosetta. Firstly, the outputs on the 003 are not mic pre outputs, they're outputs from protools. Outputs 1-2 are your main outs - they're mirrored in the outputs that feed the monitor outs (and I believe with the 003, 3-4 can be mirrored by the 2nd headphone send).
If you want to use the Rosetta with your 003, you need to connect it via SPDIF, and set the 003 to sync to it - via word clock (and then connect the WC out to 003 WC in.
Now, the downside to this approach is you lose the monitoring control of the 003. So you'll need to get a monitor controller. There's lots of examples of these, from cheap (Samson) to mid (Mackie Big Knob
, Presonus central station) to expensive (Dangerous, Audient SPL I believe). You COULD just connect a pair of monitors to the Apogee outputs, but you'll lose a convenient volume control - and turning down the volume in PT is not good of course - you're losing digital resolution and affecting your final audio file. If you're using an amp and speakers, and the amp has a volume control on the front - you could get away without this.
The Rosetta only has 2 inputs. You have 3 mic pres you want to use. 3 into 2 doesn't go, so you need a patch bay of some description. An XLR bay may work for you - 16 XLR spaces in a 1U space. You could then have the 2 apogee inputs, 3 mic pre outs, and patch them as required.
One alternative is to use the digital output of the Liquid Channel
as well as the Apogee. Looking at the connections on both, you could connect the Liquid channel
to the co-axial SPDIF, the Rosetta to the optical, wordclock from the Apogee through the 003 to the Liquid channel
, and leave things hooked up that way. Downsides to this approach is that you couldn't use the liquid channel
in conjunction with the rosetta (and thus the other 2 pres) at the same time.
The third option is to connect the least important pre to one of the line inputs (4-8) of the 003. That would let you use all 3 pres at the same time (although bear in mind the liquid channel
is digital, so don't try using it as part of a pair with one of the other 2 - it'll wreck the phase!).
So, you've got some choices to make here. Out of interest (and I don't mean this insultingly) but how have you ended up with some really boutique gear, when it's quite clear you're not totally sure of how to connect it all?! I mean, the tape sim - I couldn't justify spending money on that, even though I'm sure it's great...I don't think I'm a good enough engineer to warrant the expense!
hope that all helps anyway.