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Old 30th November 2007, 03:12 PM   #1
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hey, new guy here. i just upgraded to a digi 003 rack and was thinking about getting drumagog to do some beat stuff. my main concern with getting drumagog is to do drum effects, kinda like some tom yorke/KID A drum vibe, not to neccesarliy enhance my regular drum sound. so my question is basically, "is drumamgog good for doing some experimental drum stuff or is it mainly to get a better raw drum sound?
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Old 30th November 2007, 03:21 PM   #2
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it's just a (good) sound replacer, you inset it, and the input triggers the selected sound...

but if you tweak the settings it can go quite mental... but this is weird experimental stuff... good for electronic music perhaps, not natural... it does not add cool fills or anything.

It's perfect it you recorded a drum kid, and used a snare mic, and the snare is not thick enough, you can for instance add a conga slap to it... Or replace the bassdrum with a big fat sample... etc...

a sound-replacer...
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Old 30th November 2007, 03:23 PM   #3
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can't you get a demo from their site and test it?

Since you can use any samples in it I would say your only limit is your imagination ! :-)
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Old 1st December 2007, 12:25 AM   #5
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eh BVB?
Did the drumagog demo come with some samples?

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Old 1st December 2007, 12:41 AM   #6
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eh BVB?
Did the drumagog demo come with some samples?

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when I downloaded the demo I think it had a couple snare, a couple kicks and some toms
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Old 1st December 2007, 12:46 AM   #7
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Ok Thank you B.Santillan :)

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Old 1st December 2007, 01:33 AM   #8
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Slightly OT, but anyone here using Drumagog successfully in PTLE 7.1 or 7.4? I'm starting to get pretty interested in this plug (to use with the Steve Slate samples), but have read a TON about it bugging out, or not working properly with PTLE 7.1

I would download the demo, but I'm in the middle of a mix project right now, and I never mess around with new plugs or upgrades when in the middle of a project.

I'll most likely be upgrading to 7.4 here when this project is finished, but I'm not itching for the upgrade all that much, so I might hold off on it. However, if it seems to work great with 7.4 and not so much with 7.1, I'll do the upgrade for sure.
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Old 1st December 2007, 01:48 AM   #9
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Eh Bernmx talking about upgrade to 7.4 are u using PC or Mac...?
If u r using PC are u upgrade Le to Vista or XP?
i'm USING M-Powered at home and want to upgrate (to vista and to 7.4) all ..but not sure yet...

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I'm on a Mac G5 Dual 2.7 (not intel)
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Drumagog works fine for me on a quad core with osx 10.4.10 and ProtoolsM 7.4
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Old 1st December 2007, 02:45 AM   #12
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Drumagog works fine for me on a quad core with osx 10.4.10 and ProtoolsM 7.4
Good to hear. What's the latency like? Can you easily blend in your drumagog tracks with your regular tracks?

Like copying your kick or snare to another track, use drumagog on one, but not the other and blend to taste without phasing issues?
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it's just a (good) sound replacer, you inset it, and the input triggers the selected sound...

but if you tweak the settings it can go quite mental... but this is weird experimental stuff... good for electronic music perhaps, not natural... it does not add cool fills or anything.

It's perfect it you recorded a drum kid, and used a snare mic, and the snare is not thick enough, you can for instance add a conga slap to it... Or replace the bassdrum with a big fat sample... etc...

a sound-replacer...
imo Drumagog sounds kinda lo fi compared to BFD. There is something not right with the sample quality. Sound replacer sounds much better the quality of the samples is not lost. Anyone else notice that?
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Old 1st December 2007, 09:25 PM   #14
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Good to hear. What's the latency like? Can you easily blend in your drumagog tracks with your regular tracks?

Like copying your kick or snare to another track, use drumagog on one, but not the other and blend to taste without phasing issues?
The latency of drumagog is adjustable based on how accurate you want it. Also, you don't have to make so many copies of the track. Drumagog has a blend function. I assume that would take care of the latency between the 2 tracks, but I don't know because I don't use it. I print the replaced track and move it back in phase with the original and then blend. For me it's hard to get drumagog to trigger 100% accurately on anything but bass drums, so I print the tracks and go back through and fix any missed hits or screwed up hits before sliding it back into phase.

Farview claims that it doesn't take that much work for him, so I'm sure not everyone goes through the work that I do to use drumagog. I guess I just don't spend enough time learning the features.

I use protools LE7.1 on a mac g5 and it's not glitchy for me.

I haven't used BFD or soundreplacer, but I have made my own gog files from my own samples and haven't been able to hear the lo-fi sound that Hgen is referring to.
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Old 2nd December 2007, 07:02 AM   #15
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my personal opinion is as follows. drumagog, while useful for electronic music etc, is not good for getting radiohead ish results.


if you want to emulate kid a, you'll have to find god and get her to make you the messiah of a generation. if you want to sound like Thom Yorkes solo record, make a beat out of the most dinky sounds you can record, repeat it a million times and run your voice through a grain cloud machine.


(can you tell that record disappointed me?)


want some electronic sounds to aspire to buy a leaf cutter john record. that man is inhuman.
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