Digi-002 inputs 5- 8

[Mackrochips]

What do digi 002 users think about recording line-level type stuff through inputs 5-8 as opposed to going through the 'contoversial' pres on 1- 4.

For instance:

I do alot of Tape conversion, and i've noticed I get the same sound if I go Cassette tape into 5 + 6 @-10, that I get if I go through inputs 1 + 2 (in that case I have to crank the pres to almost 12 o'clock to get the same level as inputs 5+6 @-10).

Also: Drum machines, such as an MPC, ASR X etc...
I did side by side comparisons with audio recorded from an MPC into input 1 + 2 with cranked pres, vs. the same audio (same level) into inputs 5 + 6 at -10. No audible difference that I could tell through some Event ASP-8s.

I know -10 is consumer or whatever, but what are GS user's thoughts- has anyone done tests and found the same? Different ?

[KEYBEEETSSS]

Get ur rack modded; Problem solve.....

[psycho_monkey]

Originally Posted by Mackrochips

What do digi 002 users think about recording line-level type stuff through inputs 5-8 as opposed to going through the 'contoversial' pres on 1- 4.

For instance:

I do alot of Tape conversion, and i've noticed I get the same sound if I go Cassette tape into 5 + 6 @-10, that I get if I go through inputs 1 + 2 (in that case I have to crank the pres to almost 12 o'clock to get the same level as inputs 5+6 @-10).

Also: Drum machines, such as an MPC, ASR X etc...
I did side by side comparisons with audio recorded from an MPC into input 1 + 2 with cranked pres, vs. the same audio (same level) into inputs 5 + 6 at -10. No audible difference that I could tell through some Event ASP-8s.

I know -10 is consumer or whatever, but what are GS user's thoughts- has anyone done tests and found the same? Different ?

-10 means a quieter output level HENCE the inputs are more sensitive, as they're expecting a quieter feed (to give unity throughput).

Sounds like your cassette deck has an output that operates at -10 (on phonos?). In which case use it as you have been. Consumer and pro is just a reference level. One isn't inherently better than the other (although balanced connections are often used with +4 gear, which is usually preferable), both are provided so you can interface directly with the gear you have.

[aussie_techie]

there is no need to go through the pres, all they do is distort and add noise. use 5-8 and you will be fine

[neverjared]

Keep in mind 5-6 and 7-8 are different sonically. I remember reading somewhere that one pair is noisier than the other,

[aussie_techie]

i think 1 pair is a little noiser due to the alt input on RCA but the difference is so minuscule that you dont notice it

[Mackrochips]

I've only had my Digi for 4 years before I figured that out, it always pays to do your own research- fun too!

So anybody with and MPC, whatever and a DIGI002, OO3 can bypass the pre and just use your volume knob on the MP to turn down the signal while going in 5-8 at -10, since drum machines are not really 'instrument' level, and most of them are not 'pro' as in 'balanced out'-

[psycho_monkey]

Originally Posted by Mackrochips

I've only had my Digi for 4 years before I figured that out, it always pays to do your own research- fun too!

So anybody with and MPC, whatever and a DIGI002, OO3 can bypass the pre and just use your volume knob on the MP to turn down the signal while going in 5-8 at -10, since drum machines are not really 'instrument' level, and most of them are not 'pro' as in 'balanced out'-

I'd guess that most are balanced out these days aren't they? The MPC 2500 is for example.

The 003 appears to have dedicated DI inputs, and the 002 it would seem that the line inputs on channels 1-4 fulfill this purpose (the digi site isn't totally clear how this works - maybe it's just a fixed impedance, maybe the impedance is different depending on if it's a balanced or unbalanced input?)

It would be interesting to see the difference between a signal recorded, bypassing the preamps in the manner described above, but not DI'd correctly, and a signal using the pres, but using the DI so the impedances are matched. Both have their positives and negatives, but I wonder which would SOUND better?