Originally Posted by Fletcher
... it comes from the player [singer, what have you]... all we do is try to have the gear not get in the way as much as possible and try to be true to the aesthetic of the artist and help them communicate their music.
So...... I can stick a Radio Shack cassette deck any-ol-place in the room and get "creamy smooth phatness" from any player as long as they know how to get "creamy smooth phatness" from their instrument or voice?
And just exactly how does one get "creamy smooth phatness" from their vocal cords?
Oh and point me to a guitar amp that has "creamy smooth phatness" when recorded to a Radio Shack cassette deck because I have recorded some GREAT players with some great guitars through Marshalls, Fenders, Bogners, Randalls, Egnaters, Ampegs, Supros, Peaveys, Oranges, Gallien-Kruegars, Voxs, and a whole sh*tload of others and not once have they come out sounding "creamy smooth" OR "phat" when I didn't use the proper tools on my side of the glass.
WTF?... I get so sick of this answer it makes my head spin. I don't know what world others are living in by in my world I really don't control who stands in front of my microphones. My job is to make them sound as good as I can with the tools and techniques I have available. NOTHING has "creamy smooth phatness" if I don't hold up my end of the bargain and "my end of the bargain" includes experience, techniques and EQUIPMENT.
ine-kpro..., I agree with effectsnut, it usually starts with the mics and preamps BUT part of that is what I mentioned above, you have to have good micing techniques on the right source to get there. And you need the back side of the chain as well.
There is no one magic bullet that you and Fletcher seem to be pointing to for good sounds (and I know Fletcher agrees with this but his post really makes it sound like it is ALL in the hands of the performer which I think even he would agree is not the case)..
It is the accumulation of all the steps.
Quality premaps with transformers and good mics placed in the right position on a good player would be a good starting point.