"Nickelback" sound

[TheNoize]

Originally Posted by filthyrich

The Nickelback sound. Prepare to be dumber having listened.

The Webshite :: Nickelback

By the way...be sure to listen all the way to the end..as hard as it may be.

By the way way...I know the production sounds great. I just have true hatred for the music that they create.

Yeah their music has a structure, so what? Maybe they do recycle the structure from a couple singles, from album to album. So what? I could never see the problem. That kind of flash animations they do to show it to people is something for the kids to laugh at kontraband or digg.com. Not for a serious music/recording forum, where you're supposed to know why and how that happens.

As long as it sounds good, it's good. If there's something more important to you than sounding good, maybe you're in the wrong place...

[filthyrich]

Not for a serious music/recording forum, where you're supposed to know why and how that happens.

Thanks. I know how a click works. I didn't mean to start a war. Maybe I'm a child. Maybe I'm a craptastic button pusher and hack singer. If my two choices are nickelback or crap; I'll take a mouth full of shit over an earful of nickelback. I guess I'm in the wrong business and I'll keep my day job.

By the way.. when I said it sounds good, I 100% meant the recording.

A good recording of me shitting would sound good too. I'd have to go into a nice mic into a great pre though. My "ass" istant would have to adjust the 57 on the bowl and get the proper angle. If my bathroom were properly sound treated with real traps; It seems like it would produce quality sounding shit. However, It's still shit.

Sorry again. I despise them and everything about them.

[ClaySchmitt]

Originally Posted by TheNoize

Wow so that's what that is? Harmonizer? Damn I need that! Is there any RTAS plug in for that?

So much for playing nice.

Okay.. they doubled the vocal, added stereo effects - i.e. chorus, reverb

Whatever it is, its excessive. Like the size of your head.

[C Heat]

Originally Posted by ClaySchmitt

Whatever it is, its excessive. Like the size of your head.

toooooo funny!!!

[TheNoize]

Originally Posted by ClaySchmitt

So much for playing nice.

Okay.. they doubled the vocal, added stereo effects - i.e. chorus, reverb

Whatever it is, its excessive. Like the size of your head.

Chorus? hmm... whatever it is, it works. Sounds amazing and I don't really notice it. Maybe we're not talking about the same album/song?

I do have a big head. I also have a very high IQ, so a big head is not a bad thing. I'm thankful.

I wish some people had a big head too, so I could have a productive conversation with them.

[AllAboutTone]

Originally Posted by Methlab

I know an awful lot of people in the music business who think Nickelback's record was exceptionally produced and engineered. It is a very good sounding album regardless if you like the songs or not.

You have in backwards, Nickelback is a great band, however the production on the latest CD is really BAD.......the first CD did not sound like that, i do not go for that endless headroom and god awful cold sound they have right now, the guitars are ok but the damn drums are as BAD as you can get. Get real, the Kick, snare...............YIKES, YUCH.....

ps: the cd was produced well, engineering ?.....nope

[TheNoize]

Originally Posted by zaza2

You have in backwards, Nickelback is a great band, however the production on the latest CD is really BAD.......the first CD did not sound like that, i do not go for that endless headroom and god awful cold sound they have right now, the guitars are ok but the damn drums are as BAD as you can get. Get real, the Kick, snare...............YIKES, YUCH.....

ps: the cd was produced well, engineering ?.....nope

You don't like the drums in the latest one? I take it you don't like compression then...

[TheArchitect]

Nickleback - From the latin, meaning "steaming pile"

[Methlab]

Originally Posted by TheNoize

You don't like the drums in the latest one? I take it you don't like compression then...

He doesn't like compression on drums..he has said that before. And he is the FIRST person I have ever heard say they don't like the drums on the Nickelback record. So take that as you will.

I personally listen to bands like TV On The Radio, Appleseed Cast..stuff like that, but the production of Nickelback impressed me.

[TheNoize]

Originally Posted by Methlab

He doesn't like compression on drums..he has said that before. And he is the FIRST person I have ever heard say they don't like the drums on the Nickelback record. So take that as you will.

I personally listen to bands like TV On The Radio, Appleseed Cast..stuff like that, but the production of Nickelback impressed me.

I personally listen the sort of bands like Nickelback crap. And I lllllllllllloooooove it! *diabolic laughter*

[AllAboutTone]

Originally Posted by Methlab

He doesn't like compression on drums..he has said that before. And he is the FIRST person I have ever heard say they don't like the drums on the Nickelback record.

i like dymanics and compression kills that very thing, i guess my converters are more friendly about not needing compression...just a personal thing

[ClaySchmitt]

Noize, I get the feeling you just like confrontation. haha

ON GUARD!

[TheNoize]

Originally Posted by ClaySchmitt

Noize, I get the feeling you just like confrontation. haha

ON GUARD!

LOL nah I hate confrontation. I'm really a pacifist. It's just that I've been playing/recording since I was 10, and despite my vast experience in music, I do have a taste for commercial rock. Heck, I'm one of them! I'm a rock songwriter/producer/musician.

And I see a lot of people with actually less experience (or maybe not) than me but thinking they sound like experts just by rejecting mainstream music, and I love to piss them off. It's not that simple and the sooner they learn that, the better.

[AllAboutTone]

Originally Posted by filthyrich

Thanks. I know how a click works. I didn't mean to start a war. Maybe I'm a child. Maybe I'm a craptastic button pusher and hack singer. If my two choices are nickelback or crap; I'll take a mouth full of shit over an earful of nickelback. I guess I'm in the wrong business and I'll keep my day job.

By the way.. when I said it sounds good, I 100% meant the recording.

A good recording of me shitting would sound good too. I'd have to go into a nice mic into a great pre though. My "ass" istant would have to adjust the 57 on the bowl and get the proper angle. If my bathroom were properly sound treated with real traps; It seems like it would produce quality sounding shit. However, It's still shit.

Sorry again. I despise them and everything about them.

OMG, THIS IS THE FUNNIEST SHIT IVE READ IN A LONG LONG TIME....
YOU SHOULD MAKE THAT YOUR SIGNATURE......LMAOROTFF.

[AnalogBob]

Whether you like the band the vocal ect.... or not.. there is a sound there.. It might have something to do with the familiarity of the sound of the pres's and certain SSL console that Nickelback bought and put in their own studio that used to be in Little Mountain sound that was responsable for countless hit's in the 80's.. Bon Jovi Motley Crew... ect.....

Little Mountain Sound Studios - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[AllAboutTone]

Originally Posted by ClaySchmitt

Nickleback sound? hmmm......

Take any shitty, twelve year old lyrics("what the hell is on Jimmy's head" will do), harmonize and pitch the piss out of the already bland vocal so he sounds like a wanna be hardcore robot, and then throw some power-chords under with a totally bland drum part.

Seriously, get a life people, this is redneck crack specifically marketing to America's (sadly)largest demographic: "The stupid ones".

This is an issue of how you define good music. "Does the music sell a bajillion records?(business)" VS. "Does the music touch and inspire you?(art)".

I mean come on, its like they polled America and found out exactly what people wanted from what they hear in their cars. -- Lets see, I want lyrics I can relate to, a drum part that doesn't confuse me. The way he sings does NOT justify the words he is singing. And the music doesn't justify the way he is singing either.

Honestly, would you rather listen to lyrics that were terrible and sounded like a robot, sung in a completely inexpressive way? Or a badly recorded with kick ass music to back it up and lyrics that inspired something(aside from nut-punching hate), and made sense with the vocal expressions.

Okay so lets sing lyrics that blanket everyones experience in a super broad, yet horribly bland way. How can you listen to them and not be .

I am not bashing the business end. They did it man, they are rolling in the bucks. But please, for the love of God don't try to tell me this is art.

I can't wait till like 2 albums from now when the feel led to re-invent themselves and try to be real-creative-musicians. It will be hysterical and you ALL know it.

/flame (sorry)

Greeting CLAY, not to far from ya in SC......btw, you do not have to worry about them , its just a fad like a lot of rock and roll, is, was, will be.... chill out.

[TheNoize]

Originally Posted by AnalogBob

Whether you like the band the vocal ect.... or not.. there is a sound there.. It might have something to do with the familiarity of the sound of the pres's and certain SSL console that Nickelback bought and put in their own studio that used to be in Little Mountain sound that was responsable for countless hit's in the 80's.. Bon Jovi Motley Crew... ect.....

Little Mountain Sound Studios - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

One thing is for sure: whoever thinks Nickelback doesn't sounds great, I would never trust them as recording or mixing engineer.

[ClaySchmitt]

Originally Posted by TheNoize

One thing is for sure: whoever thinks Nickelback doesn't sounds great, I would never trust them as recording or mixing engineer.

hahahah

edit: sorry, its just funny to hear that.

[TheNoize]

Originally Posted by ClaySchmitt

hahahah

edit: sorry, its just funny to hear that.

I have Nickelballs.

[Autocrat]

Originally Posted by snüzz

nickel back has crappy unoriginal uncreative songs that pander to 14 year olds- reminds me of a rock rascal flatts. what is more important than how they get there sound might be how to avoid it. why not ask how leslie feist or ben folds get their sound? with feist it starts with not squashing everything to death like nickelback and with ben it starts with quality songwriting and lyrics unlike rascal flatts. please, no more nickelback sound-a-likes!

Actually, the latest Feist CD production (The Reminder) sounds awful. Lo-fi but in a bad way. Songs are good but the bad sound takes away from the enjoyment of the CD. Let it Die, on the other hand, is beautiful.

Not a NB fan here either but the production does make for powerful, in your face music even if the lyrics are cheesy.

[AllAboutTone]

btw, the CD that im talking about is: " All the Right Reasons", this is the CD that i think that the production is so bad...again the drums on the CD is a huge turn off, Guitars are ok.....overall the CD is cold sounding with tons of headroom, where is the warmth ? Their other CDs sounded fine....

[dviola]

Originally Posted by TheNoize

One thing is for sure: whoever thinks Nickelback doesn't sounds great, I would never trust them as recording or mixing engineer.

It is safe to say you should never trust me....and I will never produce or engineer a record for you

Don't you get it? There is no standard...these are all opinions....Since when is there this golden standard for the production that we all must strive for....The job of a producer is to do everything in his/her power to communicate the music to the audience...this could mean a lot of things

For my music it sure as hell doesn't mean smashing it to hell in mastering, sample replacing every F%&$ing drum hit, and using a harmonizer on every other vocal line

To each his own, but don't act like you've found the bible to production in Nickeback

Oh and I'm gonna save you a sh#tload of money on that harmonizer plug-in you desire: Take a high school level intro to music theory class and learn what harmony is...if you're a real slick cat you might be able to even google it...then SING it...if you can't, you probably shouldn't be singing

Oh, and I work at shows, and I just did Nickeback, and Chad uses the harmonizer live which I think is just unforgivable

Wow...that felt great

[AllAboutTone]

Originally Posted by dviola

For my music it sure as hell doesn't mean smashing it to hell in mastering, sample replacing every F%&$ing drum hit, and using a harmonizer on every other vocal line

Could not agree more..... sampling fits best in Rap music which some is kewl..... I got Nort Big "Life after Death", i believe that was what its called, 2 CDs today, it was great, never heard it before, very laid back Rap, i like that stuff.....had some soul to it...

[FNM]

Originally Posted by Jake 2.0

Nickelback is a Canadian band, thier old drummer played on the long road album and their new drummer Daniel adiar played on the newer album" all the right reasons" josh freeze didn't play on any of nickelback's tunes.

Shit, you're right. I was thinking of Puddle of Mud... same thing.

[swisha31]

Originally Posted by zaza2

Could not agree more..... sampling fits best in Rap music which some is kewl..... I got Nort Big "Life after Death", i believe that was what its called, 2 CDs today, it was great, never heard it before, very laid back Rap, i like that stuff.....had some soul to it...

a lot of hip-hop has soul and meaning to it. it's just the "artists" that major labels force down peoples throats that is the problem. if you can listen to notorious big, then you can listen to jay-z, nas, kanye, common, talib, mos def,j dilla etc..... they all have a soulful feel.

these other artists that major labels try to market to little kids give the genre a bad name. it's kind of the nickelback of hip-hop i guess.

[ClaySchmitt]

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[TheNoize]

Originally Posted by zaza2

Could not agree more..... sampling fits best in Rap music which some is kewl..... I got Nort Big "Life after Death", i believe that was what its called, 2 CDs today, it was great, never heard it before, very laid back Rap, i like that stuff.....had some soul to it...

Sampling fits best in Rap? Sound Replacer has been used tons of times in rock... Even A Perfect Circle's drums were replaced with samples by Andy Wallace on the latest albums.... When he said "sampling" he meant sound replacer...

[Daniel Antix]

i've heard that they double the kick drum and bass line an octave lower in the mix... i've tried it in a few mixes and i like doing it now for that type of music... dont know if they actually do it though, just what a mastering engineer told my ex studio partner.

[desol]

Double, triple and quadruple everything, then squish the shit out of it with a slew of distressors. Add a whole bunch of autotune...harmonizers and whatever other spices...and there you have it!

D.

[lb9000j]

nickelback, he he he