What other daw allows audiosuite plugs?

[spector29]

Hi all, I just wanted to find out if anyone knows a daw that has a similar thing to audiosuite plug-ins in protools?
I'm trying to move away from protools for the sake of better pres and portability but I keep getting pulled back as the audiosuite non-realtime plugs take the strain of my computer.
Any info is most appreciated.
Im mainly going to need a 2 mic pre interface thats portable. I would go an mbox2 or mini but I have a 002r and the amonut of times the clock fails and the sound of the pres is frustrating.

Does live provide similar audiosuite capabilities?

Cheers, Matt

[lancebug]

Most current DAWs have some type of freeze function that more or less works the same way as audiosuite plugs. I believe that Live, Logic, Digital Performer and Cubase all have a freeze function. Others may as well, those are just the ones that I have used.

[spector29]

Obviously Im just used to digidesign terming, Ive got an express version of logic lying somewhere and I'll investigate the freeze thing in it.
Cheers, Matt.

[s.d.finley]

I dont think freeze and audiosuite are the same thing, or even close. Audiosuite renders and audio file with the plug in you choose. Its done, no more cpu usage for that plug that was AS'ed.

There are a couple 2-track editors that will render audio files similiar to audiosuite in Pro Tools. But I know of no DAWs. Somehow I'd think Reaper would do it!

[musiq]

(mac/pc) In cubase/neundo you can apply effects in the built in audio editor by using what i think is a realtime (meaning its not a separate type -rtas vs audiosuite) plug but in that window it gives u the option to"process" the audio file

Pc- i know sonar allows u to open up your favorite editor (sound forge, wavelab) and apply effects there and it handles importing and exporting the new processed file.

[dkelley]

Originally Posted by lancebug

Most current DAWs have some type of freeze function that more or less works the same way as audiosuite plugs. I believe that Live, Logic, Digital Performer and Cubase all have a freeze function. Others may as well, those are just the ones that I have used.

well the most obvious other daw that does freezing (in many ways and far more usefully than with the AU concept) is Sonar, arguably the best of the list, can't forget sonar. 'course it's windows only, stupid programmers...

musiq... sonar's freezing is the most impressive of all the daws (in their current versions) IMHO. You haven't had to export to an external program for years, although that option still exists and is really nice if you'd like to edit your waveform in sound forge (who wouldn't!). But it's internal freezing has gotten to a point where it's doing something close to miraculous in how it can almost instantly store a freeze a track and then unfreeze it and all a/bing and stuff. I'd still be using sonar but I prefer protools for a few reasons (nothing organizes projects like protools...).

[theblue1]

I think most of the DAWs allow some sort of render or freeze. Hard to imagine you could get away without it these days and call yourself a player.


With regard to Sonar and pc-only availablity, Cakewalk had bought a Mac-based audio sequencer called Metro (IIRC) apparently with the idea of moving to the Mac market. For whatever reasons, nothing apparently came of it.


It can be enormously expensive moving a program with low level hooks into the OS (as Sonar has into Windows and Mac DAWs that use Core Audio have) to another OS platform.

And, there is already plenty of competition in the Mac Market, with Logic and DP there as well as Cubase and PT.


As a long time CW/Sonar user, I'm glad they decided to do what they do best.

[Stiff]

Audiosuite is not freezing.

I don't know how other software does rendering, but if they don't (which I would find pretty strange) you would always be able to bounce the track down in one way or another.

[Schmeckitup]

Digital Performer has always allowed the faster-than-realtime application of all plugins to any region of audio.
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[Matti]

Well, in Nuendo / Cubase you can have efects realtime, freezed or rendered.
Freezing is like temporally rendering, you can unfreeze it to make changes
but you can render destructively aswell.
Cheers
Matti

[redroom]

Cubase/Nuendo allow whats called offline processing which is the same as Audiosuite.Cubase/Nuendo go a little bit further with this concept with the offline
process history which means you could ie process with delay fx and then decide to do some distortion fx and so on but decide that you want to remove one of the processes via the offline process history at any stage of the game.

[Matti]

Thank´s, didn´t remember that one as I seldomly
need these.

Matti