nice mic pre with dual outs?

[ephed]

i have a couple of Great River mic pres that i like, and they allow me to do zero latency monitoring with the monitoring outputs they have (which i patch into a little mackie mixer I use for monitoring only - i record direct from mic pre to daw). was using samplitude now using pt le (i know, i know, why...) for a setup like this, in which i'm monitoring what i'm recording against playback out of the mic pre (instead of through the daw) am i locked into Great Rivers in this price range? i was hoping to swap one of the GRs out with another, maybe a tad nicer, mic pre - for variety. i'm not finding many other mic pres that have multiple outs that can both be actively used. or is there some 'low loss' splitter i can use out of any mic preamp with which i can split to my mixer for monitoring & go direct to pt le for recording? am i just confused?

[minus-sounds.com]

Not in the GR price range, but rather nice with dual outputs the TFpro P3 channel strip. About 220 euros
P3 product information

Also Peavey VMP-2, dual tube pre with a balanced and an unbalanced out.

[Bob Ross]

Demeter VTMP-2

[Crash]

I would try and wire up or buy a splitter and see how it works out for you. As for the VMP-2, it does have a balanced and unbalanced output that are both hot at the same time. Just know that the XLR balanced out goes through a transformer while the 1/4 inch bypasses it.

[ephed]

Thanks very much for the replies.

I used to have some JoeMeek stuff - same person that did the TFPro right? If so that's promising. I didn't know about the Demeter, will definitely check into that.

Regarding a splitter (say if I got a preamp with one XLR out, some sort of device to connect it to that will allow me to split off an out to go to my monitoring mixer), I assume this would lead to some audio loss, less strength of signal, maybe even introduce some noise - is that right?

[1monkey1]

the summit mini (i think the model number is 2ba-221) has dual outputs. about 500 bucks per channel, less used. they have a mic impedance knob, and separate tube output/solid state outs to adjust blend. i think they sound great, but that's just me.

steven walcott
Engine Studios

[Crash]

I would just wire up a Y cable. I doubt you will hear or notice any signal loss or degredation.

[ephed]

thanks everyone for the replies. as suggested, i think i'll wire up a Y-cable or get one of the smaller half-normalled patch panels (hosa?) and do some listening. thanks again.

[Tibbon]

I'd just run through a mult on a patchbay, or split it passively in some other way like that. You really shouldn't notice any signal loss. I know that it seems that you would get the signal halfed or something, but it just doesn't work that way. I'm trying to remember why and articulate it intelligently, but I think it's something to do with the same idea of when you run resistors in paralell.

[Crash]

If you get a patch bay, then doing the mult thing, like Tibbon said, is the ticket. If you don't, then doing the Y cable is just as acceptable.

[sctt_stone]

Hi, sorry to jump in, but I am considering buying a great river myself.
It will be my first out board mic pre so I am a little curious as to how good it is
for rock vocals. I've heard a lot of talk about it being absolutely wonderful, so
I am wondering what you think? What does it really excel at, in your opinion, if anything?
Thank you,
Scott

[Andrew Kinsey]

Originally Posted by sctt_stone

Hi, sorry to jump in, but I am considering buying a great river myself.
It will be my first out board mic pre so I am a little curious as to how good it is
for rock vocals. I've heard a lot of talk about it being absolutely wonderful, so
I am wondering what you think? What does it really excel at, in your opinion, if anything?
Thank you,
Scott

The Great River IMO is a slightly cleaner sounding version of the Neve 1073. It would deffinately be a good choice for rock vocals however its all down to the vocalist, and the mics. I personally prefer Valve pre's.

[Sounds Great]

You want a line level distribution amp. Here are a few:
Distribution Amps, Analog

The Radio Design Labs models aren't too expensive. I have a couple like this:

Radio Design Labs RUUDA4

That is an unbalanced model. If you want to keep your signals balanced, here is a balanced version:

Radio Design Labs RUMLD4

[sctt_stone]

Originally Posted by Andrew Kinsey

The Great River IMO is a slightly cleaner sounding version of the Neve 1073. It would deffinately be a good choice for rock vocals however its all down to the vocalist, and the mics. I personally prefer Valve pre's.

I also prefer a valve sound. My thought has been that if i use a valve mic with a transformer pre that i would have a lot of control over the sound, or at least i hope so.
Presently i only have a Rhode NTK and a Focusrite Saffire, like the mic,hate the saffire.
Have you had a chance to play with a millennia origin, I would love to know how the tranformer option sounds, I read some were that the transformer is based on an old neve desighn. Makes me wonder if it could be the best of all worlds.

[Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Andrew Kinsey

The Great River IMO is a slightly cleaner sounding version of the Neve 1073. It would deffinately be a good choice for rock vocals however its all down to the vocalist, and the mics. I personally prefer Valve pre's.

I just bought Prism Sound Orpheus through Sound Tools in UK 3 weeks ago and still waiting for the rest 250£ and receipt.

How pro is that?

Avoid dealing with this guy Andrew Kinsey.