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Old 1st April 2007, 08:13 AM   #1
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Nylon pop screen vs metal pop screen

Guys, want to know the difference between there 2.
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Old 1st April 2007, 12:41 PM   #2
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one uses nylon fabric to minimise the plosives and the other uses angled grilled holes to minimise plosives. i have both and i have noticed some slight phazing like additives to my recording using the both of them. a bit exagerated, but it be like talking infront of a fan but its very so slightly and only noticeable on rare occasions.

i only got the metal one because i got a cheap knock off on ebay and you can clean it and i thought it was better at stopping the mist of saliva coming from the vocalist into the mic.

the only thing i dont like about the metal ones are that if you accidently bend them, it be hard to reshape back. the nylon one, i do not really care for and can replace easily with normal stockings if the nylon mesh would get damaged.
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Old 1st April 2007, 06:37 PM   #3
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Metal one I have lets more of the high frequencies to pass through. I also like that it is smaller. I wouldn't say that I've ever noticed a "phasing" sound though you'll get more hf w/o any pop blocker (at the cost of spit and plosives).
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Metal all the way. Never rips, and is easy to clean.

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A filter is a filter

Check out the Karma Audio metal filter. Works as good, but costs 1/3 of the price!

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I find the metal ones generate noise ("S" sound) when hit with a blast of air from plosives. I'd rather use a fabric windscreen. I extreme cases, I'll use a fabric windscreen in conjunction with a metal one (fabric windscreen closest to the performer).
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Old 2nd April 2007, 04:52 PM   #9
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Metal screens have a big advantage - in my opinion - in that they do not require a hoop. Modern hi-fi loudspeakers almost all use flush mounting as opposed to a lot of mid-20th century designs that mounted the driver behind the baffle. Loudspeaker designers have gotten rid of what was essentially a straight-sided horn and in doing so, cleaned up the midrange a little. Doing the same thing at the other end of the music reproduction chain makes a lot of sense to me.

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Old 3rd April 2007, 02:30 AM   #10
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I've tried both ways extensively and while my favorite is none at all, my second favorite is the foam "slip over the capsule" screens that come with a lot of mics. The metal ones do let more highs through, but I hear a phasiness to the s sounds. The nylons sound no better than the foam slip ons. They also don't work as well.

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Old 3rd April 2007, 03:52 AM   #11
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wow. how surprising to read these answers! I checked out this topic out of curiosity, but I'm surprised. I'll have to check into metal ones again some day.

But for me, the studio standard has ALWAYS been nylon, more often than not custom built or expensive types with a very thin wire loop rather than a thick plastic hoop as someone else commented on being a possible audio problem (although I've never noticed any problem with that design either). Nylon has always been the one to use in my lifetime, and it works really well unless you've got a problem with the mic/singer/booth/nylon itself (might have holes poked somewhere).

Making them yourself is cheap cheap cheap unless you never get out and get laid, just take your lady's junk nylons and put the leg part and stretch it over your home made hoop (carefully bent coat hangers work well) and voila. Attach it to your mic stand (duck tape does the trick, lots of it) and have at her. Now if you decide to spend money, you get a nice versatile clamp. I like the clamps. But the home made variety has worked on most of the albums you listened to growing up. The rest probably used foam wind screens over the mic head (but I find that reduces highs more and doesn't help with positioning the singer at the right distance from the mic like a well designed hoop can).

One man's opinion. Like I said, I'll try a metal one sometime, never bothered to deviate from the norm on that point.

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But which one sounds "warmer"?



Just wait, that will be the next craze.

After the hard drive sound quality.
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I've tried both ways extensively and while my favorite is none at all, my second favorite is the foam "slip over the capsule" screens that come with a lot of mics. The metal ones do let more highs through, but I hear a phasiness to the s sounds. The nylons sound no better than the foam slip ons. They also don't work as well.

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I've got a metal one with a tube in it. It glows when some one sings into it.
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