Recording a 4x12

grhuntuk · 9th March 2007, 03:21 AM

Just recorded a 4x12 Marshall with a Orange Head. I used a Sm57 due to lack of quality mics and it occured to me, where should i place the mic? I opted for the centre of all four speakers but i wondered if anyone had any suggestions tips?

sorry for, what is probably a reapeated, and certainly newbie question!!

G

drumkideric · 9th March 2007, 03:26 AM

Pick one speaker that sounds the best. Then move the mic around the speaker until you get the best tone possible.

scrubs · 9th March 2007, 03:33 AM

Worth the read: http://www.badmuckingfastard.com/sound/slipperman.html

Tibbon · 9th March 2007, 04:08 AM

Yea, go with one speaker instead of SM57 on all four. While you may initially think then, "Well why not just use a 1x12 instead?" it sounds really different and reacts differently with the amp with a smaller speaker (albiet not always in a bad way).

You could go with center, but i'd try something about 1/3 of the way on the radius of the speaker. Just move it around until it sounds good really. Every cab will be a little different, and of course it's whatever sound you are looking for.

grhuntuk · 9th March 2007, 04:10 AM

Cheers guys!

jeremynothman · 9th March 2007, 04:32 AM

slipperman's deranged thread is worth a read. he never quite finishes, but has a lot of useful info

might take 3hours to read though, but worth the read

octatonic · 9th March 2007, 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grhuntuk

Just recorded a 4x12 Marshall with a Orange Head. I used a Sm57 due to lack of quality mics and it occured to me, where should i place the mic? I opted for the centre of all four speakers but i wondered if anyone had any suggestions tips?

sorry for, what is probably a reapeated, and certainly newbie question!!

G

Folklore will tell you that there is usually one or two better sounding speakers in each 4 x 12. I find sometimes this is true, sometimes not.
Either way, listen to each speaker and pick one.

I put the 57 either dead on centre or on the outside of the cone, resting on the grill.

I like putting PZM's on the opposite wall as well for an 'ambience without too much roominess' sound.

A bit of a throwaway statement coming, but worth stating.
Take what you have at hand and try to do something interesting with it- you might find an omni works well some days, or micing the guitarists right hand to get some pick attack (I do this a lot).

grhuntuk · 9th March 2007, 05:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeremynothman

slipperman's deranged thread is worth a read. he never quite finishes, but has a lot of useful info

might take 3hours to read though, but worth the read

Yep, had a ago, and will certainly continue. The guy is clearly a lunatic!

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)

some exciting ready for a newb. keep it up Slips. Where the **** is the guy? he should update that thing.

Quality

G

Tibbon · 9th March 2007, 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by octatonic

Folklore will tell you that there is usually one or two better sounding speakers in each 4 x 12. I find sometimes this is true, sometimes not.
Either way, listen to each speaker and pick one.

I put the 57 either dead on centre or on the outside of the cone, resting on the grill.

I like putting PZM's on the opposite wall as well for an 'ambience without too much roominess' sound.

A bit of a throwaway statement coming, but worth stating.
Take what you have at hand and try to do something interesting with it- you might find an omni works well some days, or micing the guitarists right hand to get some pick attack (I do this a lot).

A figure 8 or omni can actually rock quite a bit on guitar amps.

Da Mill · 9th March 2007, 05:04 PM

I usually place front of mike at edge of speaker angled about 45 degrees toward cone to get both edge and cone tones. I use an old U.S.A. 57 or Super Pro, (SM 58 with on/off switch). I have a few Mexican 57's and don't hear any difference with them.

slaves666 · 14th March 2007, 06:34 PM

57 and a 609 , blend the two to taste.

soundawg · 14th March 2007, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grhuntuk

Yep, had a ago, and will certainly continue. The guy is clearly a lunatic!

(

)

some exciting ready for a newb. keep it up Slips. Where the **** is the guy? he should update that thing.

Quality

G

Slipperman's Recording Distorted Guitars From Hell

MadSkillzMan · 15th March 2007, 03:53 AM

i personally like the cheap large diaphragm condensor inbetween the center and edge of the cone.

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9th March 2007, 03:21 AM	#1
grhuntuk Gear interested Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: UK Posts: 15	Recording a 4x12 Just recorded a 4x12 Marshall with a Orange Head. I used a Sm57 due to lack of quality mics and it occured to me, where should i place the mic? I opted for the centre of all four speakers but i wondered if anyone had any suggestions tips? sorry for, what is probably a reapeated, and certainly newbie question!! G

9th March 2007, 03:26 AM	#2
drumkideric Lives for gear Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Nashville Posts: 539	Pick one speaker that sounds the best. Then move the mic around the speaker until you get the best tone possible. __________________ Eric Green www.myspace.com/plaidnomad

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Tibbon Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Boston/MA Posts: 4,091	Yea, go with one speaker instead of SM57 on all four. While you may initially think then, "Well why not just use a 1x12 instead?" it sounds really different and reacts differently with the amp with a smaller speaker (albiet not always in a bad way). You could go with center, but i'd try something about 1/3 of the way on the radius of the speaker. Just move it around until it sounds good really. Every cab will be a little different, and of course it's whatever sound you are looking for. __________________ David Fisher (aka tibbon) What is Noise, Blog (DIY, gear, tech, etc) Follow me on Twitter

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Da Mill Gear nut Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Yorba Linda Ca. Posts: 95	Miking I usually place front of mike at edge of speaker angled about 45 degrees toward cone to get both edge and cone tones. I use an old U.S.A. 57 or Super Pro, (SM 58 with on/off switch). I have a few Mexican 57's and don't hear any difference with them.

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