003 is out!!!!

MX582 · 1st March 2007, 04:17 AM

http://www.digidesign.com/index.cfm?...0&itemid=24692

andrew269 · 1st March 2007, 04:26 AM

pretty lame in my opinion... it's not an upgrade at all. doesn't come anywhere close to the features of the ff800, firestudio, saffire pro, etc. it's just a very basic evolution of the 002. looks like i'll be moving to a different daw when i outgrow my mbox.

MX582 · 1st March 2007, 04:28 AM

looks like the only big difference is the word clock..lol..lots of people are gonna be pissed

jslevin · 1st March 2007, 04:31 AM

I have to admit ... in a perverse way, I'm almost in awe of how little they improved the product from the 002. They just showed total contempt anyone who fantasizes about building a pro studio around a Pro Tools LE system. And the lack of S/MUX support -- what can possibly explain that other than pure spite?

You guys have to admit ... you didn't think they had the balls to put out something this unimpressive, did you?

JSL

Bdiggy · 1st March 2007, 04:32 AM

Looks like the Black Lion 002 mod for me.

Mabye HD later this year.... mabye not. Bummed.
What's up with the dorky gay mushroom knobs?

Premium Factory Bundle Included ($3,000 Value). My ass! Digi 00well

rainsinvelvet · 1st March 2007, 04:32 AM

Just a side note that it looks like the price didn't increase.. So now you get a few extra features ( world clock is a cool one ) and it doesn't go up in price.

ERic

MX582 · 1st March 2007, 04:33 AM

yea..to be honest i wasnt planning on getting a 003 (my next move is gonna be to HD) but i still wanted to see it come out, just out of interest. i am too surprised by digidesign

andrew269 · 1st March 2007, 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jslevin

I have to admit ... in a perverse way, I'm almost in awe of how little they improved the product from the 002. They just showed total contempt anyone who fantasizes about building a pro studio around a Pro Tools LE system. And the lack of S/MUX support -- what can possibly explain that other than pure spite?

You guys have to admit ... you didn't think they had the balls to put out something this unimpressive, did you?

JSL

DeeDrive · 1st March 2007, 05:48 AM

how is this surprising??? Was the 002 a huge upgrade from the 001?? Sound quality wise maybe, but not in features.

Digi wants to keep LE and HD users in 2 very distinct categories. If they had a 003 with 8 pres and 16 channels of lightpipe, they would lose HD customers because more people would buy the 003 rather than pay big $$ for HD.

Digi does what is good for themselves, not their customers, (just like most businesses). They are a leader in DAWs because of pro tools, and people will buy whatever they put out, because they want pro tools.

gear head · 1st March 2007, 05:52 AM

pretty sure i'm happy with my m-box 2 pro factory

celticrogues · 1st March 2007, 06:49 AM

The funny (in a sad way) thing is that it took them so long to release the 003 . . . It was probably hard for them to figure out how to fit all the new features into only 2 rack spaces

hgen · 1st March 2007, 07:28 AM

Everything Digi has released on PTLE has always been barely adequate hardware wise. Were it not for the editing power PTLE products would downright stink.

Who would ever buy a digi unit for their preamps or converters? Apalling rubbish!

They are the most mean spirited audio company on the planet, who lock you into their platform with their cruddy over priced hardware. It's taken them this long to offer what other companies have been selling for several years now as standard!

Sorry for the rant but they really give me the ........!

BenJah · 1st March 2007, 11:27 AM

wow.. I mean WOW!!! They wated this long and all they added was wordclock....

What an utter let down. If only they spent a little less on that crappy digizine mag and a little more on say, another adat connector..

The mind really does boggle.

Nice one digi.

A home run for sure.

GravityRobert · 1st March 2007, 12:45 PM

Obsolete.

Little to no impressive features, hardly anything added, I'm most certainly not impressed

K Bartos · 1st March 2007, 01:19 PM

Now, after letting the dissapointment wear off for a couple of hours - here's what I think.
The 003 is not an upgrade or a new "generation" of LE (despite what Digi says), it's simply a facelifted 002, a "product refresh".
What purpose does THAT serve ?
NONE - apart from giving a new and uniform look to the LE Family and the impression that things are evolving.
You see, I'M pretty sure there will be a 003 Pro. THAT unit MUST sport some sort of improvement in I/O and features. For that we'll have to wait maybe a year.
The 002 will be supported probably for as long as the current 003. Why ? IT'S THE SAME THING. There's no technical reason (like it was for the 001) to drop support for the 002 while keeping the 003. They're both gonna co-exist for a long time. IF Digi does drop the 002 somewhere down the line they are rightly labeled "Bastards".
If the 003PRO never materialize then I'll join you guy's in a group session chanting "we don't understand, we don't understand"....
Businesswise I can see this new facelifted 002 make some sense - but ONLY if in the greater sceme of things there is a 003PRO.
If not, then today we have witnessed the beginning of Digi's fall from it's "industry leader" position.
If you don't have the young up-and-coming guys using your stuff, then why would you presume that they will switch to HD when they make it big ?
Using Nuendo with all the available hardware options you are never gonna HAVE to switch for any other reason than that of compability. And if enough guys pass on LE and go Nuendo (or whatever) the non-PT guys are gonna grow in numbers and slowly start to cancel out that one reason to get HD - Compability.
I like PT, I run my business on an LE rig.
I just wish that there were something in between HD and the 003.

Rock on.

Zeppelin · 1st March 2007, 01:19 PM

If they had put nothing but two Adat in/outs and fw into a Mbox2 Mini-like box it would have been a huge upgrade from this Digi 0,03 sheit

PT User · 1st March 2007, 02:11 PM

I guess they are not into pleasing their current customers but trying to attract new ones who dont know any better!! I guess now I can buy a couple 500 series pres Ive been wanting.

Tibbon · 1st March 2007, 02:55 PM

I haven't looked, but I wonder how much more they will want for the upgrade from the Digi002 to the Digi003.

I'm also wondering now what bugs the Digi003 is going to have.

The Digi002R had a crap power harness that had to be replaced, and you had to buy a PCI firewire card if you wanted to record more than one track with a Apple G4 MDD.

AND I'm wondering how many people it took to make this upgrade happen? One? Two? Taking 3 years to add wordclock IO couldn't have taken too much effort.

Then again, LE has to be shitty in order to make people want HD more.

Now i'm just scared of how few features they are going to add to PT HD. HD is barely an upgrade for people mixing on a console and using no/few plugs.

buschfsu · 1st March 2007, 03:18 PM

what is going on with the look of this thing. (since the features aint bowling anyone over) I at least thought it would look cool

looks like a cross between maudio and tapco.

actually makes the 002r look modern.

Muzikfarm · 1st March 2007, 03:44 PM

Well I'm just glad I didn't hold off and wait for that POS. My Black Lion Audio 002 console will be back Saturday and I'm looking forward to all the new goodies.. Is there any improvement at all here? I think it looks like some of the cheaper Maudio and other lower end brand equip.

TheReal7 · 1st March 2007, 03:54 PM

Someone needs to take away the crack pipe from the R n D dept. at Digi.

Muzikfarm · 1st March 2007, 04:25 PM

Email to digidesign

Subject: 003 Release

http://www.bettyfordcenter.org/ I would like to offer this to the design team you actually PAID to develop the 003. Actually I would like to offer this to the people that employed them...

Crack addiction is a serious thing, please get them the help they need...

http://www.hearingcenter.com/ I would like to offer this to the whole team at Digidesign for once again listening to your customer base..

Have a great day!

drewrevolution · 1st March 2007, 05:34 PM

well hey look on the bright side. maybe the 002 will completely bomb in price enough to where you can buy that and send it to black lion for the same price as getting a 003.

Stitch333 · 1st March 2007, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheReal7

Someone needs to take away the crack pipe from the R n D dept. at Digi.

and smack, LSD, perks, jack daniels, HIV hookers, blow, xanies, wet, dust, meth, and McDonalds value menu items....
These guys are completely out of touch with reality. Ooooh, word clock and new knobs! Im wetting myself in excitment at the plethora of new options!
Digi LE is suckin it big time!

Muzikfarm · 1st March 2007, 05:53 PM

Those knobs are kick ass with the little mushroom heads

grindx · 1st March 2007, 06:19 PM

This quote from the description is pretty telling as far as the demographic they are marketing to.

"No instrument? No problem! 003 Rack includes a range of versatile audio applications, sounds, and virtual instruments that work with Pro Tools to compose music or to simply play — no real instrument (or musical knowledge) required."

kingofthecrate · 1st March 2007, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by celticrogues

The funny (in a sad way) thing is that it took them so long to release the 003 . . . It was probably hard for them to figure out how to fit all the new features into only 2 rack spaces

LOL... thats pretty funny, yet it kind of trips me out that they have such a lock on the industry that they literally can put out a piece of poop with pre's on it and still be on top.

or on the flip side, they did have a profit loss this year so Im wondering if this will add to theyre decrease in profit forcing them to stay competitive and put something out better..

who knows what they will do.. I work with an 002 rig and a HD3 and i get both jobs done perfectly fine.

yes the wordclock is cool and would allow people to use different converters or clocks but at the same time..

who really gives a shit..

HEY DIGI.... KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK

Carter · 1st March 2007, 06:45 PM

The phantom power button is on the BACK of the 003r

, What the hell were they thinking.

thats why I dont deal with them anymore.

kingofthecrate · 1st March 2007, 07:01 PM

Real Question Here,

Do you think that if they received enough negative feedback through email or whatever that maybe "just maybe" they would re think things?

drewrevolution · 1st March 2007, 07:23 PM

no they won't. they are set in their (ignorant) ways.

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1st March 2007, 04:17 AM	#1
MX582 Gear maniac Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Hollywood Posts: 258	003 is out!!!! http://www.digidesign.com/index.cfm?...0&itemid=24692

1st March 2007, 04:32 AM	#6
rainsinvelvet Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: California Posts: 1,040	Just a side note that it looks like the price didn't increase.. So now you get a few extra features ( world clock is a cool one ) and it doesn't go up in price. ERic __________________ http://www.thesleepoverdisaster.com (my Band) http://www.myspace.com/thesleepoverdisaster It is a very mixed blessing to be brought back from the dead. Kurt Vonnegut

1st March 2007, 05:48 AM	#9
DeeDrive Lives for gear Join Date: May 2005 Location: Hillsboro, OR Posts: 894	how is this surprising??? Was the 002 a huge upgrade from the 001?? Sound quality wise maybe, but not in features. Digi wants to keep LE and HD users in 2 very distinct categories. If they had a 003 with 8 pres and 16 channels of lightpipe, they would lose HD customers because more people would buy the 003 rather than pay big $$ for HD. Digi does what is good for themselves, not their customers, (just like most businesses). They are a leader in DAWs because of pro tools, and people will buy whatever they put out, because they want pro tools. __________________ There are only 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't. Jonaspark Mobile Recording: http://www.jonaspark.com http://www.myspace.com/mattdistad http://www.myspace.com/froghollowdaycamp

1st March 2007, 12:45 PM	#14
GravityRobert Gear addict Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 430	Obsolete. Little to no impressive features, hardly anything added, I'm most certainly not impressed __________________

1st March 2007, 04:26 AM	#2
andrew269 Gear nut Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: hbg, pa Posts: 80	pretty lame in my opinion... it's not an upgrade at all. doesn't come anywhere close to the features of the ff800, firestudio, saffire pro, etc. it's just a very basic evolution of the 002. looks like i'll be moving to a different daw when i outgrow my mbox.

1st March 2007, 04:28 AM	#3
MX582 Gear maniac Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Hollywood Posts: 258	looks like the only big difference is the word clock..lol..lots of people are gonna be pissed

1st March 2007, 04:31 AM	#4
jslevin Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 1,667	I have to admit ... in a perverse way, I'm almost in awe of how little they improved the product from the 002. They just showed total contempt anyone who fantasizes about building a pro studio around a Pro Tools LE system. And the lack of S/MUX support -- what can possibly explain that other than pure spite? You guys have to admit ... you didn't think they had the balls to put out something this unimpressive, did you? JSL

1st March 2007, 04:32 AM	#5
Bdiggy Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: VA. Posts: 1,967	Looks like the Black Lion 002 mod for me. Mabye HD later this year.... mabye not. Bummed. What's up with the dorky gay mushroom knobs? Premium Factory Bundle Included ($3,000 Value). My ass! Digi 00well

1st March 2007, 04:33 AM	#7
MX582 Gear maniac Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Hollywood Posts: 258	yea..to be honest i wasnt planning on getting a 003 (my next move is gonna be to HD) but i still wanted to see it come out, just out of interest. i am too surprised by digidesign

1st March 2007, 05:52 AM	#10
gear head Gear nut Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 145	pretty sure i'm happy with my m-box 2 pro factory

1st March 2007, 06:49 AM	#11
celticrogues Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 557	The funny (in a sad way) thing is that it took them so long to release the 003 . . . It was probably hard for them to figure out how to fit all the new features into only 2 rack spaces

1st March 2007, 07:28 AM	#12
hgen Gear addict Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 413	Everything Digi has released on PTLE has always been barely adequate hardware wise. Were it not for the editing power PTLE products would downright stink. Who would ever buy a digi unit for their preamps or converters? Apalling rubbish! They are the most mean spirited audio company on the planet, who lock you into their platform with their cruddy over priced hardware. It's taken them this long to offer what other companies have been selling for several years now as standard! Sorry for the rant but they really give me the ........!

1st March 2007, 11:27 AM	#13
BenJah Gear maniac Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 282	wow.. I mean WOW!!! They wated this long and all they added was wordclock.... What an utter let down. If only they spent a little less on that crappy digizine mag and a little more on say, another adat connector.. The mind really does boggle. Nice one digi. A home run for sure.

1st March 2007, 01:19 PM	#15
K Bartos Gear nut Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 82	Now, after letting the dissapointment wear off for a couple of hours - here's what I think. The 003 is not an upgrade or a new "generation" of LE (despite what Digi says), it's simply a facelifted 002, a "product refresh". What purpose does THAT serve ? NONE - apart from giving a new and uniform look to the LE Family and the impression that things are evolving. You see, I'M pretty sure there will be a 003 Pro. THAT unit MUST sport some sort of improvement in I/O and features. For that we'll have to wait maybe a year. The 002 will be supported probably for as long as the current 003. Why ? IT'S THE SAME THING. There's no technical reason (like it was for the 001) to drop support for the 002 while keeping the 003. They're both gonna co-exist for a long time. IF Digi does drop the 002 somewhere down the line they are rightly labeled "Bastards". If the 003PRO never materialize then I'll join you guy's in a group session chanting "we don't understand, we don't understand".... Businesswise I can see this new facelifted 002 make some sense - but ONLY if in the greater sceme of things there is a 003PRO. If not, then today we have witnessed the beginning of Digi's fall from it's "industry leader" position. If you don't have the young up-and-coming guys using your stuff, then why would you presume that they will switch to HD when they make it big ? Using Nuendo with all the available hardware options you are never gonna HAVE to switch for any other reason than that of compability. And if enough guys pass on LE and go Nuendo (or whatever) the non-PT guys are gonna grow in numbers and slowly start to cancel out that one reason to get HD - Compability. I like PT, I run my business on an LE rig. I just wish that there were something in between HD and the 003. Rock on.

1st March 2007, 01:19 PM	#16
Zeppelin Gear maniac Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bondalen, Norway Posts: 163	If they had put nothing but two Adat in/outs and fw into a Mbox2 Mini-like box it would have been a huge upgrade from this Digi 0,03 sheit

1st March 2007, 02:11 PM	#17
PT User Gear maniac Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 231	I guess they are not into pleasing their current customers but trying to attract new ones who dont know any better!! I guess now I can buy a couple 500 series pres Ive been wanting. __________________ Who ever said this would be Easy! http://www.myspace.com/sightthrusound

1st March 2007, 02:55 PM	#18
Tibbon Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Boston/MA Posts: 4,091	I haven't looked, but I wonder how much more they will want for the upgrade from the Digi002 to the Digi003. I'm also wondering now what bugs the Digi003 is going to have. The Digi002R had a crap power harness that had to be replaced, and you had to buy a PCI firewire card if you wanted to record more than one track with a Apple G4 MDD. AND I'm wondering how many people it took to make this upgrade happen? One? Two? Taking 3 years to add wordclock IO couldn't have taken too much effort. Then again, LE has to be shitty in order to make people want HD more. Now i'm just scared of how few features they are going to add to PT HD. HD is barely an upgrade for people mixing on a console and using no/few plugs. __________________ David Fisher (aka tibbon) What is Noise, Blog (DIY, gear, tech, etc) Follow me on Twitter

1st March 2007, 03:18 PM	#19
buschfsu Gear nut Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 89	what is going on with the look of this thing. (since the features aint bowling anyone over) I at least thought it would look cool looks like a cross between maudio and tapco. actually makes the 002r look modern.

1st March 2007, 03:44 PM	#20
Muzikfarm Gear interested Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Carleton, Michigan Posts: 10	Well I'm just glad I didn't hold off and wait for that POS. My Black Lion Audio 002 console will be back Saturday and I'm looking forward to all the new goodies.. Is there any improvement at all here? I think it looks like some of the cheaper Maudio and other lower end brand equip.

1st March 2007, 04:25 PM	#22
Muzikfarm Gear interested Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Carleton, Michigan Posts: 10	Email to digidesign Subject: 003 Release http://www.bettyfordcenter.org/ I would like to offer this to the design team you actually PAID to develop the 003. Actually I would like to offer this to the people that employed them... Crack addiction is a serious thing, please get them the help they need... http://www.hearingcenter.com/ I would like to offer this to the whole team at Digidesign for once again listening to your customer base.. Have a great day!

1st March 2007, 05:34 PM	#23
drewrevolution Gear maniac Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 284	well hey look on the bright side. maybe the 002 will completely bomb in price enough to where you can buy that and send it to black lion for the same price as getting a 003. __________________ Drew Fulk @ Underground Sound

1st March 2007, 05:53 PM	#25
Muzikfarm Gear interested Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Carleton, Michigan Posts: 10	Those knobs are kick ass with the little mushroom heads __________________ http://www.muzikfarm.com (my dinky little studio)

1st March 2007, 06:19 PM	#26
grindx Gear nut Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 83	This quote from the description is pretty telling as far as the demographic they are marketing to. "No instrument? No problem! 003 Rack includes a range of versatile audio applications, sounds, and virtual instruments that work with Pro Tools to compose music or to simply play — no real instrument (or musical knowledge) required."

1st March 2007, 06:45 PM	#28
Carter Gear Head Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 32	The phantom power button is on the BACK of the 003r , What the hell were they thinking. thats why I dont deal with them anymore. __________________ Carter -------------------- MCF Productions

1st March 2007, 07:01 PM	#29
kingofthecrate Gear maniac Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Lost Angels Posts: 163	Real Question Here, Do you think that if they received enough negative feedback through email or whatever that maybe "just maybe" they would re think things? __________________ "A rock band used to be four guys and a drummer. Now it's five guys sitting around reading manuals!" --Bill Bruford-- SRS STUDIOS poopan

1st March 2007, 07:23 PM	#30
drewrevolution Gear maniac Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 284	no they won't. they are set in their (ignorant) ways. __________________ Drew Fulk @ Underground Sound