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what is the best mixing desk for under 10k?

Looking for a good 16 trakker. all analog with good eq etc. Are their any classics in this price range that i should be aware of?

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I'm usung and O2R96. Great summing mixer and 8 omni outs plus busses allow for integrating my outboard gear. Converters, pres and Eq and compressors are very good too. Also, you get a control surface for your DAW.
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If I were trying to get an analog console in that ballpark then personally I'd try and get hold of a Neotek Elite, I might be pushing the budget a little bit but at the moment its a buyers market apparently.

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What about the new Toft ATB? 16, 24,32 channel versions.
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If you can be patient you can find a great used console in that range. You may even get very lucky and find something like a Trident 80 or Quad Eight. The Good news is that you need only 16 channels. Things get more expensive when you need more than 24. If you are in a rush you can get some really nice Neoteks or D&Rs in that range.
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If I were trying to get an analog console in that ballpark then personally I'd try and get hold of a Neotek Elite, I might be pushing the budget a little bit but at the moment its a buyers market apparently.

Tim.
thanks bruther .did a little bit of research. the elite is a bit over my price range. Had a look at the elan 2 though. Looks really good. Perfect size and 16 channel. What the eq like on it?. Im looking for a desk with superb eqs!

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What about the new Toft ATB? 16, 24,32 channel versions.
Just had a look at the toft that looks real nice as well. only 3500. is it any good?


Ca anyone tell me what kind of sound these consoles impart on the music youre putting through them. Also which one has a nicer eq!

Both look really nice
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If you can be patient you can find a great used console in that range. You may even get very lucky and find something like a Trident 80 or Quad Eight. The Good news is that you need only 16 channels. Things get more expensive when you need more than 24. If you are in a rush you can get some really nice Neoteks or D&Rs in that range.
Thanks bruther. Id love to get a quad eight but theyre quite hard to come by. I found out about this guy called desk doctor that can make a custom ssl. I would love to get a 16 channel version of the g series. I love the eq on that but i dont know if this is possible and even if it is what would it cost?

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chandler mini rack with $4k towards EQs??? speck made some cheaper EQs to use for basic stuff which will leave 3-3.5k for some tasty units... quad eight 333s, amek 9098, chandler, speck, summit EQP-200, whatever

22 transformers cant be wrong

this is the route i'd go.... you can always take care of sends inside the computer.
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how about a 3 channel wunder audio wunderbar?
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the wunderbar looks nice . theirs no price up tho. Is it based on the neves?
They also do it in 12 and 16 channel versions which is what i need.
would anyone happen to know how much a 16 channel version would cost?

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I'm usung and O2R96. Great summing mixer and 8 omni outs plus busses allow for integrating my outboard gear. Converters, pres and Eq and compressors are very good too. Also, you get a control surface for your DAW.
Thanks for the tip bruther ive used yamaha desks before but im looking for something strictly analogue with embedded pres and eqs etc.
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What about the good old Studer Stuff like 169, 269?

I think they are usefull to track with them...
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the wunderbar looks nice . theirs no price up tho. Is it based on the neves?
They also do it in 12 and 16 channel versions which is what i need.
would anyone happen to know how much a 16 channel version would cost?
the wunderbar doesn't come in 16 channels. buckets of 12 only (12, 24, 36, etc.). $3k a channel. hence my "3 channel" joke. it's LOOSELY based on one particular neve module that not many people have used.
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MCI

I have to throw in for MCI 600 series. If you want a real analog console that's large you can find 36 channel desks for about 7k. MCIs are an extremely modifiable desk and easy to work on. John Hardy makes their mic pre on a card that swaps right in. You can put API summing bus inside if you want, any kind of fader system or upgrade the VCA to modern standards, it's a very cool desk for the money.
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ok folks, you know I have to say this:

Get a Sony DMX , no console qualitywise for that price can compete with the Sony out there imho

This desk rocks my digital world, the ease of use and sound quality beats a dm 2000
for years.

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ok folks, you know I have to say this:

Get a Sony DMX , no console qualitywise for that price can compete with the Sony out there imho

This desk rocks my digital world, the ease of use and sound quality beats a dm 2000
for years.

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Uhh... I think the original poster was asking about an "all analog" console.
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MCI JH618 (I have one) GREAT desk and as someone said, you can throw in some Hardy pre's for I think $300 per channel (I must do this!)
Trident 65 and have money left for other stuff. Decent enough.
Studer 089. Fabulous desks.
(maybes I haven't heard)
Toft ATB
Trident 8T
Neotek
and if you want clean and open D&R. I really like their stuff. Good company.
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Older DDA or New Midas Venice or Verona

I use D&R and I like it.

A Tascam DM-4800 is all digital with a good analog pre design.

If you like analog, Why not a Midas Verona or an older DDA (wich is a company wich now is part of Midas).


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Studer 169, or 961 or 962.
Great Preamps, great summing bus. Only a 3 band EQ but very useful.

Amek BCII, one can almost say the same about that as about the studer.

Both are about 5000 € if in good condition.
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Studer 169, or 961 or 962.
Great Preamps, great summing bus. Only a 3 band EQ but very useful.
Tell me about it! Can't say if they are the best but certainly very good!
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I thought you meant like computer desk. I need one. My computer's getting quite stuffy.

(Pardon the Wal-Mart First Act drum kit. I'm only learning on it.)
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I would definetly agree with the folks who said Studer and Trident Series 65.

The Series 65 has so much character, it's not even funny. Plus, the mic pres aren't bad and one in good condition can be had for between $4000 and $7000 nowadays. That leaves some $$$ left over for patchbays, cabling, etc. Can't forget about that.

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What about the new Toft ATB? 16, 24,32 channel versions.
yeah that looks awesome. they quoted me like under 4000 with shipping to the US. im seriously considering one for myself.
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Ive decided ill probably go with a trident series 65 or one of the new trident 8t 16 channel desks- Does anyone know anything about these?. Also looking at the toft because he price is real cheap. I dont know about studer the trident seems more appealing to me but if i do come across a studer i might just get it.

What is the connecton between the the new toft console and the tridents? I know theyre linked. Do they have a similar sound?


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Do you need more preamps? Are you tracking drums? What are you going to use the desk for...
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Hi All

Im based in the UK and have enquired about the Toft ATB (32 Channel).
I have been quoted a price of £4,000 Plus VAT.
This works out to cost approx £4,600.($9,000)
From what i understand in the USA this desk is approx $6,000 US Dollars.
Can anyone confirm the cost of this desk in the USA for me...?

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Trident 8tb

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Ive decided ill probably go with a trident series 65 or one of the new trident 8t 16 channel desks- Does anyone know anything about these?. Also looking at the toft because he price is real cheap. I dont know about studer the trident seems more appealing to me but if i do come across a studer i might just get it.

What is the connecton between the the new toft console and the tridents? I know theyre linked. Do they have a similar sound?


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I have the 16 channel and think it cant be beat for what I paid for it. Have not put it thru the works yet (been on honeymoon) but I have mixed a couple of songs through it and can say I was blown away by the mojo it added. It took me half the time to get a mix where I wanted it to be without having to work so hard ITB. The pres are good but have most of the gain in the last 1/4 of the pot and gets quite noisy there. The EQ is great and is the biggest plus of the board. The bussing structure is weird and I didnt get a manual (they have not written one yet) with it. THe summing section is another strength of this board and I find myself inspired to mix again. I learned on ITB systems and that has been all that I have known until now and I am so glad I started using an analog board. It feels musical and at the core I am an artist.
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Hi All

Im based in the UK and have enquired about the Toft ATB (32 Channel).
I have been quoted a price of £4,000 Plus VAT.
This works out to cost approx £4,600.($9,000)
From what i understand in the USA this desk is approx $6,000 US Dollars.
Can anyone confirm the cost of this desk in the USA for me...?

Paul
The prices just increased to 4k/5.2k/6.5k USD. And in case you're wondering, I really like mine.
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Hi All

Im based in the UK and have enquired about the Toft ATB (32 Channel).
I have been quoted a price of £4,000 Plus VAT.
This works out to cost approx £4,600.($9,000)
From what i understand in the USA this desk is approx $6,000 US Dollars.
Can anyone confirm the cost of this desk in the USA for me...?

Paul
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