hello, i play in a middle-eastern type band. we have vocals, azeri tar, kamanche, tombak and oud. in case you don't know what those are then here are two videos:
acoustic: Ha-Orvim - Video by Shmulik Balmas - MVI_1588.MOV - YouTube
condensers and everything but flat boring sound: ‫???? ?????? - ?????? ????? ????? Orvim Ensemble - Igrig Bayati Shiraz‬‎ - YouTube
i play oud (the triangular-esque instrument, similar to a lute, on the right in both videos). my biggest problem is more volume/less feedback, and also EQing, how to make it as full as it sounds acoustically.
we had a show yesterday in a small bar/restaurant. the space was small and crowded and at the bar on the other side there were some people making noise. all the other instruments worked well with dynamic mics (sm57 and 58). for the oud it was complicated because the lower fequencies kept feedbacking so the volume couldn't go high enough in the mix.
there are many things i'm not sure how to approach. i would rather avoid using a pickup as it never sounds as natural as a mic, what should i do? maybe a combination of pick up (what kind?) and mic would work better? even when we played in a quiet venue the sound-guy used condensers the oud still didn't "come out" as much as the other instruments.
most soundguys here don't know too much about amplifying these instruments so i need to know more myself. for example would anyone know the typical frequency curve of an oud? i assume it is mainly in the low-high mids, and the feedbacking frequency somewhere between 100-400 hz (depending on room etc)? when eq-ing an oud are there any general rules to follow?
i want to add that when we rehears we play acoustic and we sound very tight and together but on stage everything changes and i feel like many small details are lost and there is always a danger of everything sounding too thin. this is also something i need to learn to deal with.