Bogner Ecstasy

[Gibby]

Hi all,

Any1 have any experience with both the Bogner Ectasy classic EL34 and the Ecstasy 101B EL34? I heard samples at the website and they both sound fantastic. What's the difference between them? I'm looking for an amp to record heavy rock music, and i need something that can give me tight, focused lowend. I hear EL34 tubes is the way to go and that Mesa cabs have the best low end response.

[Methlab]

A buddy of mine got the classic. For distortion it's one of the greatest amps I have ever heard to be honest. I dont know the difference between the 2, but I know the classic is one of the best heads you can get if you want an all around awesome head for recording or live.

[84K]

The Ecstasy Classic is the EL34 power tubes with more filtering in the power supply and a slightly different preamp. The Classic is the most expensive model (and it's the original design). There is also the less popular 101a wihch uses the 6L6 tubes. I have them all. I like the stock 101b the most for modern hard rock

[Gibby]

Originally Posted by 84K

The Ecstasy Classic is the EL34 power tubes with more filtering in the power supply and a slightly different preamp. The Classic is the most expensive model (and it's the original design). There is also the less popular 101a wihch uses the 6L6 tubes. I have them all. I like the stock 101b the most for modern hard rock

The stock 101b that you own comes with EL34's or 6l6's? I'm going crazy trying to decide wut amp im gonna get. I'm looking into the Diezel VH4 too. the Diezel seems more versatile than the bogner. The problem is that i cant try any of these amps out myself coz i live in the middle east. I'm worried about paying all that money and not liking the amp wen i get it

[LoopQuantum]

had one (classic) for while...VERY focused gain....but same problem I had with the Soldano SLO100.... a little top heavy....was always having to eq in some bottom end. AWESOME amp though....sad to be rid of it.

[Mark Warren]

Played the classic once and loved it, far more so than the standard model. The standard model just seems to lack the 'soul' of the classic, much for expressive IMO.

[James 'LA' Lugo]

I have a 101B, nice amp. The Diezel is way more evil sounding but sounded more metal, the Bogner sounds more like a Marshall on steroids. The Diezel is super tight and heavy.

[picksail]

Originally Posted by James 'LA' Lugo

I have a 101B, nice amp. The Diezel is way more evil sounding but sounded more metal, the Bogner sounds more like a Marshall on steroids. The Diezel is super tight and heavy.

I gotta come hear that new Bogner.

It has been my favorite live guitar amp for the longest. That and the Egnater.

[84K]

Originally Posted by Gibby

The stock 101b that you own comes with EL34's or 6l6's? I'm going crazy trying to decide wut amp im gonna get. I'm looking into the Diezel VH4 too. the Diezel seems more versatile than the bogner. The problem is that i cant try any of these amps out myself coz i live in the middle east. I'm worried about paying all that money and not liking the amp wen i get it

They are both great amps. It was descrided very well by James Lugo. The Diezel is more metal sounding and the Bogner has more classic tones as well as heavy over-the-top but still classic sounds. If you want metal, go Diezel, if you want more overdriven extreme distortion with a classic touch, go Bogner.

[Gibby]

Thanks for the info guys. I'm going to go for the Diezel

Does anyone know where i can buy one and have it shipped internationally? I emailed the guys at deizel and diezel UK but never got a reply.

[James 'LA' Lugo]

Contact the Amp Shop:
http://www.bassexchange.com/catalog/index.php

Ask for Artie tell him I sent you.

[Tommy Fobia]

I love Bogners range. The Ecstacy and the Ubeschall are two incredible amps.

In my personal opinion, I think that Bogners are more suited to orange cabs with G12k-100s rather than a Mesa V30 cab.

I always feel that Mesa cabs (especially the over-sized cabs) sound too 'woofy' and sluggish in the low mids. I like to think that Orange cabs are amongst some of the best built cabs on the market, and the g12k-100s that they load them with are much wider and bigger sounding than vintage 30s, not to mention MUCH less beamy.

Just my tuppence!

[Gibby]

Originally Posted by James 'LA' Lugo

Contact the Amp Shop:
http://www.bassexchange.com/catalog/index.php

Ask for Artie tell him I sent you.

Thanks James. Really appreciate it. I'll contact them soon.

[James 'LA' Lugo]

Originally Posted by Tommy Fobia

I love Bogners range. The Ecstacy and the Ubeschall are two incredible amps.

In my personal opinion, I think that Bogners are more suited to orange cabs with G12k-100s rather than a Mesa V30 cab.

I always feel that Mesa cabs (especially the over-sized cabs) sound too 'woofy' and sluggish in the low mids. I like to think that Orange cabs are amongst some of the best built cabs on the market, and the g12k-100s that they load them with are much wider and bigger sounding than vintage 30s, not to mention MUCH less beamy.

Just my tuppence!

What do those Celestions sound like?

[Tommy Fobia]

Originally Posted by James 'LA' Lugo

What do those Celestions sound like?

I bought 4 after being dissatisfied with my v30 cab.

It is the newer version of the discontinued G12h-100, part of the handmade heritage range, which was a popular replacement speaker in mesa combos and the like while it was in production. Its essentially the same speaker, but it has a bigger more powerful ceramic magnet, which gives it a bigger, tighter low end.

G12k100s have a much wider 'open' sounding mid band than a vintage 30, and are much less brittle and beamy in the high mids. They sound a lot more natural and organic than a g12t-75, which can sound slightly nasal and scooped, but they can handle just as much low end.

Once you have bought your head, go to an orange dealer and test it out with one of their g12k-100 cabs. You'll be a better judge than me, to whether it suits your tone or not, but I am more than happy with these speakers!