Next Step up from a Tube Screamer

ziegenh5 · 21st August 2006

I have an analogman modded TS-9 and love it in-between my Strat and my Fender Deluxe Reverb. Was thinking of adding another one for a bit more sustain and crunch when needed. Do you guys think I should gang two tubescreamers together(like SRV did) or go for a different pedal altogether like a modded Boss DS-1 or something? So what's the next step up from a tubescreamer......two tubescreamers or something else? Thanks,
Sean

Bastian · 21st August 2006

i would check out the fulltone fulldriver or the ibanez ts9dx.

The Spark · 22nd August 2006

Ibanez used to make a MetalScreamer which sounded like a tubescreamer with a little more jam IMO... Not very metal though.

Bob Ross · 22nd August 2006

Seems like every guitarist I've worked with in the past 2 or 3 years who was going for that TubeScreamer kind of crunch has added a HotCake to their pedalboard.

digitalM · 23rd August 2006

Fulltone fulldrive II or Carl Martin "hot drive'n boost" !!

tvanveen · 23rd August 2006

I'm using an SPF Green Machine for this. It's awesome.

grahluk · 23rd August 2006

Got a Klon Centaur (the Neve 1084) of overdrive pedals. Spent WAAAAY too much money on it. Still, as long as I have a guitar that plugs into an amp I will have that thing and want nothing else. I would have been quite quite happy with a Fulltone or Hotcake for half the price.

joneps · 26th August 2006

I always have 2 modded TS9 (a Keeley and an Analogman) in the pedal rig and for variety in front I use something else with a crunchier sound -- usually either a SPF Red Threat or a Big Muff, though sometimes an old DOD 555. Rarely are they all on -- unless I'm going for ultra-feedback -- but the combinations allow for a lot of variety in distortion tones. Depending on what sounds you're looking for, the TSers are definitely smoother (I usually dial one up with a lot of drive and one with only a little) and if I need something edgier, I throw on whatever's in front with one of the TSers.

Pasta4lnch · 26th August 2006

check out protone pedals. GREAT tone. reasonable prices.

sloanfiske · 29th August 2006

Fulltone Fulldrive. Overdrive and boost.

Or try putting a ZVEX Super Hard On in front of your signal chain.

jackinthebox · 14th September 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by grahluk

Got a Klon Centaur (the Neve 1084) of overdrive pedals. Spent WAAAAY too much money on it. Still, as long as I have a guitar that plugs into an amp I will have that thing and want nothing else. I would have been quite quite happy with a Fulltone or Hotcake for half the price.

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serious pedal. pretty subtle but makes any amp sound awesome. I've got an HBE power screamer which is based on an 808 but with an extra switch for three different modes and a 10db boost switch. Same chip as the 808 i believe, nice hand made pedals.

TAVD · 15th September 2006

I have an AMT tube platinum for sale if you're interested.

It has a TS feel but with much more gain, a bit less compression and a flatter midrange. The 2 band eq gives it more tone shaping too. It's a great pedal from a company that's still under the radar.

infiniteposse · 15th September 2006

I just got back my recently modded TS-9 (silver mod by Analogman) and I'm seriously underwealmed. I've been using a Fulltone OCD for some time now and also got a Barber Silver LTD and I think they both beat the pants off my TS9. I use a DRRI as well and these other 2 choices are way more transparent to my ears whereas the TS-9 just creates this cloud and mud in my sound. I had hoped the silver mod option would kill that aspect of the tubescreamer sound which I've never been a fan of, but I guess not...

So yeah, I'd check out a Fulltone OCD and/or Barber Silver LTD. I use them both for low-gain dirt on the sound and the OCD plays very well with other pedals. I use it with my Fulltone 69 for nice heavier sounds.

Re: the Klon, I've yet to hear one, but I've never heard an unkind word spoken about it.

Good luck.

jetpackbassist · 17th September 2006

you might look into some of the maxon stuff... just like the ibanez, but made with infinitely better components.

check out www.maxonfx.com for ideas/soundsamples

oh, and if you can get your hands on a fulltone o.c.d..... DO IT.

riantide · 10th October 2006

Good god I love tube screamers. I have a Sparkle Drive (basically an 808 with a clean blend option) and I modded a DS-1 and a Distortion+, the latter two I use as boosts before the Sparkle Drive.

Those are great options, certain RAT pedals are awesome, old Marshall Shredmasters are insane, and the ZVEX Super Duper 2 in 1 is one of the best pedals I've ever heard. Too bad I might never be able to justify spending that much money on a pedal.

I've heard the Green Machines are sick, I want to hear one...

Oh yeah, and a friend of mine has a BadCat pedal that is about as big as a buick and sounds even bigger. Don't know which one, it has two channels. It's unbelievable.

Pasta4lnch · 10th October 2006

any word on a t-rex alberta (or even the mudhoney)? those look really cool . . . be my first choice to try. . .

alnico · 10th October 2006

If you haven't tried dual Tube Screamers you should. Then check out the other options

doorknocker · 10th October 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by sloanfiske

Or try putting a ZVEX Super Hard On in front of your signal chain.

I just bought a 'Super Hard On' and it's a great pedal. MUCH better than the reissue MXR Micro Amp I had a few years ago. The clean boost the SHO delivers will work great with Strats and Teles.
It's also a good way to preserve the sound of your guitar when using pedals.

I also second the FullDrive II, great pedal. I foolishly sold mine about 2 years ago only to really miss it eventually but luckily enough I scored an early model on e-bay for a good price a while ago.

Between the FullDrive and my AnalogMan-modded Boss DS-1 I can pretty much cover every sound I want as far as 'overdrive/ slightly dirty' is concerned.

In the fuzz department I mainly use a Danelectro FabTone. Dirt cheap and great sounding!

soupking · 15th October 2006

http://www.butleraudio.com

Get the BIAS nob installed if you can, it's worth it.

This pedal made me post to Harmony Central (which they never posted) and I'm not a pedal guy.

BK's the shiz. That pedal made me see shit. I wish I had a sample on hand to show you. The price is relatively hefty pedal sitting in at 300 - 450, but you'll never buy another overdrive pedal again.

Peace,
-soupking

petsematary · 16th October 2006

Check out this whacky tubescreamer frankenstein:

http://www.mohomods.com/effects.htm

Click "custom pedals" for The Multiscreamer.

Blindside · 27th October 2006

Vox Cooltron Bulldog Distortion.

Expensive, 12au7 driven, 2 channel OD/dist pedal. All balls and worth every penny, especially when paired with the TS or Seymour Duncan PU booster pedal.

Jules · 2nd November 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by doorknocker

I just bought a 'Super Hard On' and it's a great pedal.

WHAT?!

doorknocker · 2nd November 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jules

WHAT?!

It's a BOOSTER pedal! I'll stop here.......

sloanfiske · 2nd November 2006

jules...

you're waaaayyy out of the loop.

"I LOVE MY SUPER HARD ON"

Maybe we can make special GS Band Instrument Thread T shirts...

doorknocker · 2nd November 2006

Yeah, and you know what's best about the SUPER HARD ON?

It runs on batteries!

bobx · 19th November 2006

durham electronics sex drive! just the right amount of drive/compression/boost. works harmoniously with my TS9

feyshay · 19th November 2006

Get a Fulltone FullDrive 2.
It'll give you the cleanish sustain you want, if you want that. Or it can get nice and crunchy. Boost options too. True Bypass. Not overpriced.
I sold my TS-9 (although it was a reissue) and never looked back.
For more distortion and buzz without the loss of the low end, the best that I've tried is Diamond Fireburst.

Protools Guy · 19th November 2006

Radial Tonebone, or, for the smaller budget, the Digitech Bad Monkey is pretty cool.

**Blast9** · 19th November 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by doorknocker

Yeah, and you know what's best about the SUPER HARD ON?

It runs on batteries!

Don't forget its more fun sibling.... the.... wait for it..... SUPER-DUPER 2-IN-1 !!! Twiche the fun

maestromiles · 23rd November 2006

Hi, my 1st post! Whoo...

You guys should check out www.buildyourownclone.com

Kits to build Tubescreamer clones.

The JRC4558D chip that companies talk up, costs about 50 cents.
You can get 'better' sounding and quieter chips.

The forum there is also quite illuminating about some pedals.

Fulltone Fulldrive = TS9, with some extremely small changes.

I built a pedal called the ...UltraScreamer lol.

Its a tubescreamer, but with switchable diodes and a high pass filter freq select switch (think bass boost)
( I hope this picture works)

-Miles.

21st August 2006	#1
ziegenh5 Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 826 Thread Starter	Next Step up from a Tube Screamer I have an analogman modded TS-9 and love it in-between my Strat and my Fender Deluxe Reverb. Was thinking of adding another one for a bit more sustain and crunch when needed. Do you guys think I should gang two tubescreamers together(like SRV did) or go for a different pedal altogether like a modded Boss DS-1 or something? So what's the next step up from a tubescreamer......two tubescreamers or something else? Thanks, Sean

22nd August 2006	#3
The Spark Lives for gear Join Date: May 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 576	Ibanez used to make a MetalScreamer which sounded like a tubescreamer with a little more jam IMO... Not very metal though. __________________ --- The Spark ---

23rd August 2006	#7
grahluk Lives for gear Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 554	Got a Klon Centaur (the Neve 1084) of overdrive pedals. Spent WAAAAY too much money on it. Still, as long as I have a guitar that plugs into an amp I will have that thing and want nothing else. I would have been quite quite happy with a Fulltone or Hotcake for half the price. __________________ "Wow, that's really exciting and new and underground and authentic. Let us take it and bring it into our dark hearts." -John Stewart on marketing.

26th August 2006	#8
joneps Gear Head Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Metro DC Posts: 50	I always have 2 modded TS9 (a Keeley and an Analogman) in the pedal rig and for variety in front I use something else with a crunchier sound -- usually either a SPF Red Threat or a Big Muff, though sometimes an old DOD 555. Rarely are they all on -- unless I'm going for ultra-feedback -- but the combinations allow for a lot of variety in distortion tones. Depending on what sounds you're looking for, the TSers are definitely smoother (I usually dial one up with a lot of drive and one with only a little) and if I need something edgier, I throw on whatever's in front with one of the TSers. __________________ ~Jonathan Two new Yawns albums now available! Download them for free today. http://www.nothingsperfectrecords.com/

29th August 2006	#10
sloanfiske Gear addict Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 304	Fulltone Fulldrive. Overdrive and boost. Or try putting a ZVEX Super Hard On in front of your signal chain. __________________ the bahamas are islands

21st August 2006	#2
Bastian Gear interested Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: houston tx Posts: 27	i would check out the fulltone fulldriver or the ibanez ts9dx.

22nd August 2006	#4
Bob Ross Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: NYC Posts: 2,560	Seems like every guitarist I've worked with in the past 2 or 3 years who was going for that TubeScreamer kind of crunch has added a HotCake to their pedalboard.

23rd August 2006	#5
digitalM Gear addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Netherlands Posts: 394	Fulltone fulldrive II or Carl Martin "hot drive'n boost" !!

23rd August 2006	#6
tvanveen Gear addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: DC Posts: 313	I'm using an SPF Green Machine for this. It's awesome.

26th August 2006	#9
Pasta4lnch Lives for gear Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: NYC Posts: 1,324	check out protone pedals. GREAT tone. reasonable prices.

15th September 2006	#12
TAVD Lives for gear Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,368	I have an AMT tube platinum for sale if you're interested. It has a TS feel but with much more gain, a bit less compression and a flatter midrange. The 2 band eq gives it more tone shaping too. It's a great pedal from a company that's still under the radar. __________________ Tom Denyle Custom Guitars

15th September 2006	#13
infiniteposse Lives for gear Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 590	I just got back my recently modded TS-9 (silver mod by Analogman) and I'm seriously underwealmed. I've been using a Fulltone OCD for some time now and also got a Barber Silver LTD and I think they both beat the pants off my TS9. I use a DRRI as well and these other 2 choices are way more transparent to my ears whereas the TS-9 just creates this cloud and mud in my sound. I had hoped the silver mod option would kill that aspect of the tubescreamer sound which I've never been a fan of, but I guess not... So yeah, I'd check out a Fulltone OCD and/or Barber Silver LTD. I use them both for low-gain dirt on the sound and the OCD plays very well with other pedals. I use it with my Fulltone 69 for nice heavier sounds. Re: the Klon, I've yet to hear one, but I've never heard an unkind word spoken about it. Good luck. __________________ Lee http://www.mysterymachinestudio.com www.myspace.com/sonandelder "It's not about the gear, it's about your relationship with the gear." tchadb ---------------------------------------------------- MacPro – Quad 2.66 Ghz, 9 gigs RAM // OS X 10.6.7 // Logic Pro 9.1.4 // UAD 2 Quad & UAD 1e // Apogee Symphony IO// Lavry AD10/DA10 // Dangerous 2-Buss LT // ADAM P22A Nearfield monitors and ADAM Sub // Avantone Mixcubes

17th September 2006	#14
jetpackbassist Gear interested Join Date: May 2006 Location: los angeles Posts: 6	you might look into some of the maxon stuff... just like the ibanez, but made with infinitely better components. check out www.maxonfx.com for ideas/soundsamples oh, and if you can get your hands on a fulltone o.c.d..... DO IT. Last edited by jetpackbassist; 17th September 2006 at 10:10 AM.. Reason: addition

10th October 2006	#15
riantide Gear nut Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 140	Good god I love tube screamers. I have a Sparkle Drive (basically an 808 with a clean blend option) and I modded a DS-1 and a Distortion+, the latter two I use as boosts before the Sparkle Drive. Those are great options, certain RAT pedals are awesome, old Marshall Shredmasters are insane, and the ZVEX Super Duper 2 in 1 is one of the best pedals I've ever heard. Too bad I might never be able to justify spending that much money on a pedal. I've heard the Green Machines are sick, I want to hear one... Oh yeah, and a friend of mine has a BadCat pedal that is about as big as a buick and sounds even bigger. Don't know which one, it has two channels. It's unbelievable.

10th October 2006	#17
alnico Gear addict Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: USA Posts: 484	If you haven't tried dual Tube Screamers you should. Then check out the other options

15th October 2006	#19
soupking Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,337	My 2 cents http://www.butleraudio.com Get the BIAS nob installed if you can, it's worth it. This pedal made me post to Harmony Central (which they never posted) and I'm not a pedal guy. BK's the shiz. That pedal made me see shit. I wish I had a sample on hand to show you. The price is relatively hefty pedal sitting in at 300 - 450, but you'll never buy another overdrive pedal again. Peace, -soupking

16th October 2006	#20
petsematary Lives for gear Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: East Coast, Sweden Posts: 1,480	Check out this whacky tubescreamer frankenstein: http://www.mohomods.com/effects.htm Click "custom pedals" for The Multiscreamer.

27th October 2006	#21
Blindside Gear addict Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 485	Vox Cooltron Bulldog Distortion. Expensive, 12au7 driven, 2 channel OD/dist pedal. All balls and worth every penny, especially when paired with the TS or Seymour Duncan PU booster pedal.

2nd November 2006	#24
sloanfiske Gear addict Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 304	jules... you're waaaayyy out of the loop. "I LOVE MY SUPER HARD ON" Maybe we can make special GS Band Instrument Thread T shirts...

2nd November 2006	#25
doorknocker Lives for gear Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Basel, Switzerland Posts: 6,055 1 Review written	Yeah, and you know what's best about the SUPER HARD ON? It runs on batteries!

19th November 2006	#26
bobx Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Los Angeles, ca Posts: 850	durham electronics sex drive! just the right amount of drive/compression/boost. works harmoniously with my TS9 __________________ www.zombiesunlimited.com

19th November 2006	#27
feyshay Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,359	Get a Fulltone FullDrive 2. It'll give you the cleanish sustain you want, if you want that. Or it can get nice and crunchy. Boost options too. True Bypass. Not overpriced. I sold my TS-9 (although it was a reissue) and never looked back. For more distortion and buzz without the loss of the low end, the best that I've tried is Diamond Fireburst.

19th November 2006	#28
Protools Guy Lives for gear Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: US of A Posts: 1,261	Radial Tonebone, or, for the smaller budget, the Digitech Bad Monkey is pretty cool.

23rd November 2006	#30
maestromiles Gear interested Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Gosford, Australia Posts: 18	Hi, my 1st post! Whoo... You guys should check out www.buildyourownclone.com Kits to build Tubescreamer clones. The JRC4558D chip that companies talk up, costs about 50 cents. You can get 'better' sounding and quieter chips. The forum there is also quite illuminating about some pedals. Fulltone Fulldrive = TS9, with some extremely small changes. I built a pedal called the ...UltraScreamer lol. Its a tubescreamer, but with switchable diodes and a high pass filter freq select switch (think bass boost) ( I hope this picture works) -Miles.

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