Delay pedal Questions - Page 2

gollumsluvslave · 15th December 2011

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I had a TC Nova Delay and it is a nice sounding unit but I found the preset switching to be too cumbersome to use in a live situation.

I'd have to agree that the preset switching could be better; a quick step on the tap button then 2 on the on/off button, it's quite easy to mess up.
However I'm only changing presets between songs, so in rehearsals I've simply been pressing the preset button by hand, single press, done; a bit easier than my old pedals where I had to bend down and tweak 3 knobs v quickly!

Here's my new baby:-

And soon to be replaced Nova on my current board (gig tomorrow!)

darkhorse · 16th December 2011

At this point I would have to rate
#1 Strymon
#2 Eventide
#3 TC DDLs

Been reading on the Strymon website, just amazing pedals. Super top shelf all the way. If I could ever afford that monster Timeline I am afraid it would out class half my rig and push me into a lot more upgrades. My wife may use a bat on me in my sleep.

I just counted up my recent board config with new board & power supplies, somewhere just over $2500, I never imagined I would have this level of rig. Now it's probably on to a 2nd amp for panning and stereo setup. I have been planning a new guitar build for the 1st part of the year. Love to do the kits, been learning how to get better stains and dye effects. Such a cool thing to build up a guitar exactly the way you want and it runs me like less than half of of my usual custom builds, certainly not the level of finish the builder can do but it is a lot of fun.

Ryan Coke · 17th December 2011

The Empress Superdelay Vintage Modified is, to me, the be all, end all of delays. It does modern sounding delays, but some really crazy ones too, that simulate degraded tape and whatnot. Not cheap--and you only have so many presets--but the expression pedal jack really opens it up to a whole new world of possibilities, with delay swells corresponding to foot movement and dry sounds with intentional delay flourishes at certain points in a song. The learning curve is a long one, but a very rewarding one.

Reverse mode c sounds like a 12 string guitar, but backwards....kind of synth like, but also almost like a sitar type sound. It's pretty cool.

DEAFCON · 17th December 2011

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Originally Posted by aaronagre

I am looking for a delay pedal for live applications WITH presets.

Personally, with digital / modeler delays I like having access to at least 2 presets - AT ALL TIMES - each with their own dedicated button for live use. Line6 delays and reverbs are pretty decent for stage work - used a DL4 forever (for delays and looper), recently bought an M9. Kinda nice having access to 6 presets per bank - delay + reverbs...and it still has the looper.

Also use a TimeFactor - another great live delay. The "lock repeat" mode is unique. Plus, it is a very usable studio toy w/MIDI syncing - line level balanced outs etc.

There are definitely better sounding delays (Strymon / Empress) if you are willing to pay the cash - but I feel like in a real world situation on stages, you begin splitting hairs in terms of "what sounds best". For me, the asset of the pedal is whether it is easy to navigate by foot, has dedicated tap tempo and offers as a bonus some unique feature / sound (like the repeat hold on the Eventide, looper on the DL4 or simple as pie expression pedal switching on the Empress)

darkhorse · 21st January 2012

I can only dream of the Strymon (my precious) but I could in time manage the Eventide. Before I came here I had never heard of Strymon just probably a passing ad in a magazine. Truly top end.
Eventide has a decades name of quality and I really like that TimeFactor.
TC of course is a notable for delay quality. Hard to go wrong these days with just about anything, modern tech is just so good, probably like the guy made a point, more so what you want or need in features. A lot to be said for the Nova IB buffer mod new unit has presets and readout. Not sure spending that much more would really be noticeable for me. Time will tell, I just filled out my board so now it is just a matter of occasionally upgrading something.

As it is I love that little Flashback for simple quality musical delay that has amazing features and modes in a small package. Best by far in the price range. I've had million delay units over the years, each generation just gets better and better.

gollumsluvslave · 22nd January 2012

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I can only dream of the Strymon (my precious) but I could in time manage the Eventide.

Believe it or not, the Eventide pedals are just as if not more expensive and 'precious' for us in the UK and Europe:-

Timeline : £365 (down in price since I got mine!

)
STRYMON TIMELINE - Thomann UK Cyberstore

Eventide Timefactor: £345
EVENTIDE TIMEFACTOR - Thomann UK Cyberstore
Eventide Space: £398
EVENTIDE SPACE - Thomann UK Cyberstore

Are these not comparable prices in the US?

darkhorse · 5th February 2012

Yeah I suppose they are closer than I thought.
Strymon Timeline $450 US
Eventide TimeFactor $399 US
The difference for me is I can get the Eventide units on a payment plan of 3 or 4 months whereas the Strymon is pay all at once which puts it outside my budget range. Not sure what the deal is on oversea shipping on the on-line vendors some do, some don't. Really have no idea.
I tend to use AMS or zZounds for their payment plans not sure of a vendor for Strymon. The few I looked up are US only. There are international vendors but being a US guy I never really looked into it.

I am sure one of us fellow musicians here in the US would be glad to forward something to you. Some of us are rather trustworthy persons who like to help other musicians and further the cause. I have actually given away gear to players who needed a little help and to pass along the gift of music. Just a thought.

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16th December 2011	#32
darkhorse Lives for gear Joined: Jul 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 909 14 Reviews written	At this point I would have to rate #1 Strymon #2 Eventide #3 TC DDLs Been reading on the Strymon website, just amazing pedals. Super top shelf all the way. If I could ever afford that monster Timeline I am afraid it would out class half my rig and push me into a lot more upgrades. My wife may use a bat on me in my sleep. I just counted up my recent board config with new board & power supplies, somewhere just over $2500, I never imagined I would have this level of rig. Now it's probably on to a 2nd amp for panning and stereo setup. I have been planning a new guitar build for the 1st part of the year. Love to do the kits, been learning how to get better stains and dye effects. Such a cool thing to build up a guitar exactly the way you want and it runs me like less than half of of my usual custom builds, certainly not the level of finish the builder can do but it is a lot of fun.

17th December 2011	#33
Ryan Coke Gear nut Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 76	The Empress Superdelay Vintage Modified is, to me, the be all, end all of delays. It does modern sounding delays, but some really crazy ones too, that simulate degraded tape and whatnot. Not cheap--and you only have so many presets--but the expression pedal jack really opens it up to a whole new world of possibilities, with delay swells corresponding to foot movement and dry sounds with intentional delay flourishes at certain points in a song. The learning curve is a long one, but a very rewarding one. Reverse mode c sounds like a 12 string guitar, but backwards....kind of synth like, but also almost like a sitar type sound. It's pretty cool.

21st January 2012	#35
darkhorse Lives for gear Joined: Jul 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 909 14 Reviews written	I can only dream of the Strymon (my precious) but I could in time manage the Eventide. Before I came here I had never heard of Strymon just probably a passing ad in a magazine. Truly top end. Eventide has a decades name of quality and I really like that TimeFactor. TC of course is a notable for delay quality. Hard to go wrong these days with just about anything, modern tech is just so good, probably like the guy made a point, more so what you want or need in features. A lot to be said for the Nova IB buffer mod new unit has presets and readout. Not sure spending that much more would really be noticeable for me. Time will tell, I just filled out my board so now it is just a matter of occasionally upgrading something. As it is I love that little Flashback for simple quality musical delay that has amazing features and modes in a small package. Best by far in the price range. I've had million delay units over the years, each generation just gets better and better.

5th February 2012	#37
darkhorse Lives for gear Joined: Jul 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 909 14 Reviews written	Yeah I suppose they are closer than I thought. Strymon Timeline $450 US Eventide TimeFactor $399 US The difference for me is I can get the Eventide units on a payment plan of 3 or 4 months whereas the Strymon is pay all at once which puts it outside my budget range. Not sure what the deal is on oversea shipping on the on-line vendors some do, some don't. Really have no idea. I tend to use AMS or zZounds for their payment plans not sure of a vendor for Strymon. The few I looked up are US only. There are international vendors but being a US guy I never really looked into it. I am sure one of us fellow musicians here in the US would be glad to forward something to you. Some of us are rather trustworthy persons who like to help other musicians and further the cause. I have actually given away gear to players who needed a little help and to pass along the gift of music. Just a thought.