H3000 for guitar..

biggator6 · 9th June 2011

So I have an odd question here..
Obviously, lots of people used H3000s in guitar rigs. I have one for studio use, but I want to use it to do some really odd pitch effects (similar to a Whammy pedal) on guitar.

I hooked up an expression pedal to a Ground Control and got it all hooked up - and it works... but it works POORLY. MIDI only has 128 values, but I'm trying to smoothly sweep a full octave (1200 cents).. so it's REALLY jumpy.

How do I get smooth sweeps with an expression pedal.. or ANY MIDI control, for that matter?

Muser · 13th August 2011

if you can get it to respond to a midi pitch bend from a keyboard via its midi in, then having something that sends that control signal from a pedal as a midi pitch bend control should do it.

midi pitch bend is much higher resolution.

rack gear · 15th August 2011

save yourself, and get this... run it into the H3000 and have fun...

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drbob1 · 15th August 2011

The Moog CF251 might be a great solution for this problem and a lot of others you might have!

biggator6 · 17th August 2011

Thanks for the suggestions.. I actually ended up using a VST called 'whamdrive' that emulates a Whammy pedal. It's decent - and it did what I needed it to do (it was just for one particular part in a song).

Why doesn't Digi just re-make the original Whammy if they're so sought after? I mean.. 6-800 on ebay?! That's nuts.

drbob1 · 17th August 2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by biggator6

Thanks for the suggestions.. I actually ended up using a VST called 'whamdrive' that emulates a Whammy pedal. It's decent - and it did what I needed it to do (it was just for one particular part in a song).

Why doesn't Digi just re-make the original Whammy if they're so sought after? I mean.. 6-800 on ebay?! That's nuts.

They lost the relationship with the programmer and haven't been able to replicate the same sound and feel with other chips/programmers. I'd imagine the price to reissue goes up year by year as the original programmer sees what his work is going for...

biggator6 · 18th August 2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by drbob1

They lost the relationship with the programmer and haven't been able to replicate the same sound and feel with other chips/programmers. I'd imagine the price to reissue goes up year by year as the original programmer sees what his work is going for...

Was it IVL? Didn't they do the chips/software for the various digitech pitch processors back then?

Muser · 19th August 2011

I doubt you'd be able to get the chips any longer to remake the original. I thought they already do a re-issue in any case. They also have it in the GNX units on their DNA chips. it actually sounds ok to me. but the original was pretty well made thats for sure.

9th June 2011	#1
biggator6 Lives for gear Joined: May 2004 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,979 Thread Starter	H3000 for guitar.. So I have an odd question here.. Obviously, lots of people used H3000s in guitar rigs. I have one for studio use, but I want to use it to do some really odd pitch effects (similar to a Whammy pedal) on guitar. I hooked up an expression pedal to a Ground Control and got it all hooked up - and it works... but it works POORLY. MIDI only has 128 values, but I'm trying to smoothly sweep a full octave (1200 cents).. so it's REALLY jumpy. How do I get smooth sweeps with an expression pedal.. or ANY MIDI control, for that matter? __________________ "Seriously, there's a certain kind of creative inspiration that can come from exploring the outer limits of a musical instrument. Now days the limits are so vast that it can be difficult to set boundaries." --spargee

13th August 2011	#2
Muser Lives for gear Joined: Jan 2010 Location: UK Posts: 3,358	if you can get it to respond to a midi pitch bend from a keyboard via its midi in, then having something that sends that control signal from a pedal as a midi pitch bend control should do it. midi pitch bend is much higher resolution. __________________ . .. GREAT!! I have this very same versatile, powerful? and high quality amplifier,,, Quoted frome the Radian6 user guide

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rack gear Gear Guru Joined: Mar 2008 Location: the big rack Posts: 10,225 10 Reviews written	save yourself, and get this... run it into the H3000 and have fun... Whammy \| DigiTech Guitar Effects __________________ *... My band has a million unpaid downloads and all I got is this lousy T-shirt...*

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drbob1 Lives for gear Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,420 3 Reviews written	The Moog CF251 might be a great solution for this problem and a lot of others you might have!

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biggator6 Lives for gear Joined: May 2004 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,979 Thread Starter	Thanks for the suggestions.. I actually ended up using a VST called 'whamdrive' that emulates a Whammy pedal. It's decent - and it did what I needed it to do (it was just for one particular part in a song). Why doesn't Digi just re-make the original Whammy if they're so sought after? I mean.. 6-800 on ebay?! That's nuts.

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Muser Lives for gear Joined: Jan 2010 Location: UK Posts: 3,358	I doubt you'd be able to get the chips any longer to remake the original. I thought they already do a re-issue in any case. They also have it in the GNX units on their DNA chips. it actually sounds ok to me. but the original was pretty well made thats for sure.