Line 6 MM4 or Eventide Modfactor?

Nitrofunk · 2nd November 2009

Hi!
I'm currently deciding whether I should buy a Line 6 MM4 or the Eventide Modfactor for my Fender Rhodes. The most important effects for me are the Phaser, a Stereo-Tremolo (Panning) and an Auto-Wah. Which box is better for my purpose?
Thanks!
Peter

Igotsoul4u · 4th November 2009

Never used them. here are some harmony central reviews

Eventide ModFactor: Harmony Central User Reviews

Line 6 MM-4 Modulation Modeler: Harmony Central User Reviews

gizeh12 · 8th August 2010

Bump

Im in the same situation, contemplating mm4 or modfactor. Anyone experienced both??

octatonic · 9th August 2010

I've had both- still own the Modfactor.

In short, neither.

The Eventide is much, much better sounding than the MM4 but there are several operational problems with it that I have tried to live with but ultimately decided it isn't worth it.

The main issue with the Modfactor is one of level.
It is impossible to not get a volume jump with presets.
Eventide are aware of the problem and issued an update for the Rotary, which was worst affected, giving you level control over it.
The rest of the presets are unable to control in this manner.
It is infuriating considering the cost.

No update is forthcoming for this issue.

chillytc · 17th August 2010

The Eventide pedals are worlds better than the Line 6. If you A/B them, I'm confident you will find the Eventide stuff is simply in a different league. I haven't owned the MM4 but I have the modfactor and the timefactor and used to own the Line 6 delay and filter pedals that are in the same line as the MM4. I also have owned old and new PODs and I know the Line 6 mod effects from playing the MM4 and from using my PODs (which have the same effects, i believe). So, although I haven't owned the MM4 and you may conclude I'm not qualified to answer this, I think I have experienced similar enough Line 6 stuff to have a valid point of view - and my view is the Eventide crushes the Line 6 stuff in every way (clarity, richness, depth of programmability, consistently inspiring results, etc...)

guitarwolle · 19th August 2010

The sound quality of the Line6 is poor, a friend of mine had one and got it modded at Tonehunter in Germany (the guy how developed the SPL Transducer). Aftr the mod it was better, but far from good - stay away.

I've not used the Eventide so far, so no comment there.

gizeh12 · 19th August 2010

I have heard the line 6 verbzilla last week and thought it sounded quite nice.
Bit grainy but thick, and blends well.

guitarwolle · 19th August 2010

Dont know the Line6 Verbzilla, we are talking about the MM4 and that sucks, seriously.

gizeh12 · 19th August 2010

You seem to hate it passionately, i'll keep it in mind and stay away from them.
I'm in for a good delay pedal, probably well get a carbon copy.

drbob1 · 20th August 2010

The Carbon Copy is a good sounding, durable pedal at a decent price.

If you're going for Line 6, move up to the M9 or M13, way more flexible, updated software on a regular basis and sounds pretty decent.

If your budget is wide open, move up to rackmount and get a decent Eventide or Lexicon unit.

octatonic · 20th August 2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by drbob1

The Carbon Copy is a good sounding, durable pedal at a decent price.

and is a delay pedal.
We're talking about modulation here.
You can only do very basic modulation with a delay pedal.

drbob1 · 21st August 2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by octatonic

and is a delay pedal.
We're talking about modulation here.
You can only do very basic modulation with a delay pedal.

I know that, but gizeh above was suggesting it as an option, so I thought it deserved a comment...

2nd November 2009	#1
Nitrofunk Gear interested Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 22 Thread Starter	Line 6 MM4 or Eventide Modfactor? Hi! I'm currently deciding whether I should buy a Line 6 MM4 or the Eventide Modfactor for my Fender Rhodes. The most important effects for me are the Phaser, a Stereo-Tremolo (Panning) and an Auto-Wah. Which box is better for my purpose? Thanks! Peter

4th November 2009	#2
Igotsoul4u Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New York, NY Posts: 2,808	Never used them. here are some harmony central reviews Eventide ModFactor: Harmony Central User Reviews Line 6 MM-4 Modulation Modeler: Harmony Central User Reviews __________________ http://www.myspace.com/polishedproductions MacPro 2.66 quad, Macbook Pro 13" 2.4, Protools 8 LE 003, Logic 8, McDsp, Sonnox, API 512c, GR NV500, Buzz Essence, Focusrite Solo, DBX 160A, Telefunken AK47, AKG 414eb Adam A7 Sub 8, Laney, Fender, Martin, Musicman, Marshall.

9th August 2010	#4
octatonic Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: London Posts: 5,429	I've had both- still own the Modfactor. In short, neither. The Eventide is much, much better sounding than the MM4 but there are several operational problems with it that I have tried to live with but ultimately decided it isn't worth it. The main issue with the Modfactor is one of level. It is impossible to not get a volume jump with presets. Eventide are aware of the problem and issued an update for the Rotary, which was worst affected, giving you level control over it. The rest of the presets are unable to control in this manner. It is infuriating considering the cost. No update is forthcoming for this issue. __________________ Regards, Jim Richmond "I don't go to mythical places with strange men." Douglas Adams

17th August 2010	#5
chillytc Gear nut Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: San Francisco Posts: 123	The Eventide pedals are worlds better than the Line 6. If you A/B them, I'm confident you will find the Eventide stuff is simply in a different league. I haven't owned the MM4 but I have the modfactor and the timefactor and used to own the Line 6 delay and filter pedals that are in the same line as the MM4. I also have owned old and new PODs and I know the Line 6 mod effects from playing the MM4 and from using my PODs (which have the same effects, i believe). So, although I haven't owned the MM4 and you may conclude I'm not qualified to answer this, I think I have experienced similar enough Line 6 stuff to have a valid point of view - and my view is the Eventide crushes the Line 6 stuff in every way (clarity, richness, depth of programmability, consistently inspiring results, etc...) __________________ "My cat's breath smells like cat food." - Ralph Wiggum

19th August 2010	#6
guitarwolle Gear maniac Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 290	The sound quality of the Line6 is poor, a friend of mine had one and got it modded at Tonehunter in Germany (the guy how developed the SPL Transducer). Aftr the mod it was better, but far from good - stay away. I've not used the Eventide so far, so no comment there. __________________ there are two things in the world that count - ROCK and ROLL

8th August 2010	#3
gizeh12 Lives for gear Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 859	Bump Im in the same situation, contemplating mm4 or modfactor. Anyone experienced both??

20th August 2010	#10
drbob1 Lives for gear Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,254	The Carbon Copy is a good sounding, durable pedal at a decent price. If you're going for Line 6, move up to the M9 or M13, way more flexible, updated software on a regular basis and sounds pretty decent. If your budget is wide open, move up to rackmount and get a decent Eventide or Lexicon unit.

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