High Gain Amp Shootout, Saturday June 20th, Hollywood, CA - Page 3

octatonic · 21st June 2009

I am exhausted just watching this.

Looking forward to hearing your Racto against all those amps (as I have a Rackto also).

rectifier · 21st June 2009

Insane thread - thanks James and everyone!

Dozerbabar · 21st June 2009

Just amazing. Can't wait to hear all the clips!

**James Lugo** · 21st June 2009

No prob guys. It was beyond. It's 5:20am and I'm uploading the files to soundclick and bouncing the last video. There are 37 amp files and 2 more videos. Crazy! The best part for me there wasn't a moment where I felt, I have to have this. All my personal amps sounded great. There were many really amazing amps. Great night. Dave Friedman really made the night, not only did his amps destroy but he helped me every step of the way from setup to dialing in amps to clean up.

krid · 21st June 2009

A big THANK YOU to James, Dave Friedman and all the guys for this shootout

You rock !

**James Lugo** · 21st June 2009

The love that went into this is staggering. It's 7am, I'm still here but I did it, all 37 files are uploaded, everything imaginable thing that could have gone wrong with the upload went wrong but we perceived. Here it is. 2 more videos are on the way.

Files:
Music page of High Gain Amp Shootout 2009 - MP3 music page on SoundClick

James

octatonic · 21st June 2009

Awesome job James.

So far the Shiva is my favourite tone captured but I haven't heard everything.

The JCM2000 isn't very impressive to my ears.

mdme_sadie · 21st June 2009

Very cool, thanks for doing this! So far it really makes it clear that there is no "one amp solution" out there, lots of good tones, but for quite different reasons.

The biggest difference to me seems to be in the shaping, some amps have more or less transient attack and more or less compression/sustain. If a manufacturer came up with a guitar amp that also had controls for those two elements they'd probably dominate.

elmagoo · 21st June 2009

Hey James it's Benson. Nice job man, that's some serious dedication!! Turned out fantastic, lots of great stuff to listen to if you're shopping for an amp (I think my wife just took my wallet from me for my own protection

p.

elmagoo · 21st June 2009

And a big shout out to everybody involved. Those that brought amps, and all the guys that helped to make it go smoothly, especially with 20 - 30 people packed into your studio!!

.

**James Lugo** · 21st June 2009

Guitar James · 22nd June 2009

Totally Bad A$$

biggator6 · 22nd June 2009

That is some of the coolest stuff ever... thanks, James!

muziekschuur · 22nd June 2009

Maybe some strange question....

Is a Hiwatt not an high gain amp?
And are there no reall high gain Fenders?
I was under the impression an Fender Prosonic was somewhat highgain?

Absolute · 22nd June 2009

Great job James

thanks for doing this

I think it turned out great. I like the way you did the cabs. I will say that maybe the space had a bit too much low mids though. But overall it displays the different types of distortion available today

foldback · 22nd June 2009

I watched all the videos and listened to all the clips. A real rock epic, a great piece of work and fantastic tool for anyone interested in maniac high-gain tube madness (like me, 9 Boogies {3 are dual rect} and a Marshall in my collection).

I hope you'll post a few more details about the amps. Was the Bogner Shiva 60 watt (EL34) or 80 watt (6L6)? Awesome that Mr. Bogner himself made the scene. Was there a story behind his Christmas hat in June or just part of the insanity?

I'd love to be able to download WAV clips that I could drop into my DAW and A-B the tones side by side instantly. Perhaps you can produce a CD of the raw clip files for this, I'd easily pay a few bucks to help offset the production cost and the cost of the Dos XX required.

Thanks again.

**James Lugo** · 23rd June 2009

Well Dan and I just got done cleaning and putting the studio back together. I found beer bottles everywhere, very rock-n-roll. Here's a pick of our stack today;
Mesa Boogie Dual Racto
'76 Marshall JMP (Friedman Mod)
Diezel Herbert
'71 Marshall Super Tremolo (Friedman Mod)
'74 Marshall Super Lead

octatonic · 23rd June 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by muziekschuur

Maybe some strange question....

Is a Hiwatt not an high gain amp?
And are there no reall high gain Fenders?
I was under the impression an Fender Prosonic was somewhat highgain?

Prosonic is very much a hi-gain amp.
I guess they couldn't lay their hands on one.

. . . · 23rd June 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by James 'LA' Lugo

'76 Marshall JMP (Friedman Mod)
'71 Marshall Super Tremolo (Friedman Mod)

Which Firedman Mods do you have?

**James Lugo** · 23rd June 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Wheeler

Which Firedman Mods do you have?

It's called the 'Kitchen Sink', it's all 3 main mods.

Brown Eye - Brown sound Van Halenish
Custom 45 - a bit brighter
Hairy Brown Eye - high gain version of the brown eye

. . . · 23rd June 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by James 'LA' Lugo

It's called the 'Kitchen Sink', it's all 3 main mods.

Brown Eye - Brown sound Van Halenish
Custom 45 - a bit brighter
Hairy Brown Eye - high gain version of the brown eye

Does he also maintain/mod AC30's and Fender Blackface stuff?

megl · 23rd June 2009

Awesome ... no ... AWESOME James!!!

Friedmans Marshall mods and his own amp are rocking hard!

Surprised by the Sovtek and how well the Rocker 30 sits in the mix for the drop-tuned stuff!

The stock 74 Marshall is great too.

/megl

darkwater · 25th June 2009

I'm more than a little bit in awe of the love that was given to this process. The final files on soundclick are SO helpful in discerning the differences between these amps.

Thanks, James. Between this and the pickup shootout, i think you have earned a place in some sort of guitar geek hall of fame. I mean that in the most loving possible way.

bforest4 · 29th June 2009

Wow, can't believe I didn't see this, I am an amp and guitar shootout addict, would have been there, and brought stuff, if I knew. Will definitely be checking this out online!!

DRC · 4th July 2009

I thought the XTC and the Marsha has the most definition and control. Great rock amps. And a great way to spend day. Looks like you fellas had a great time.

NoizyNinja · 5th July 2009

It was a blast! Thanks again James!

I stayed until right after the Soldano SLO and to me it sounded amazing. Since Dave Friedman brought it I though he modded it but he said it was stock.

I got a great deal for a barely used one and I'm loving it. I think it'll work great with the VH4 which is a darker amp.

Overall it was an ear-opening experience. I thought the Bogners faired well along with the Friedman modded amps.

Bogner is quite the character

**Geert van den Berg** · 6th July 2009

Awesome shootout! Thanks for doing this!

21st June 2009	#61
James Lugo Moderator Joined: May 2004 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 6,997 Thread Starter	__________________ Vocal Asylum & Hemispheres Recording - http://www.sslmixingonline.com/ http://www.HemispheresRecording.com - http://www.youtube.com/user/jameslugo Now affiliated with Sound Pure Pro Audio & Guitars / Boutique Amps Check out my first video tutorial release on Groove3: http://www.groove3.com/str/vocal-asylum.html

21st June 2009	#64
octatonic Lives for gear Joined: Jun 2004 Location: London Posts: 5,450	I am exhausted just watching this. Looking forward to hearing your Racto against all those amps (as I have a Rackto also). __________________ Regards, Jim Richmond "I don't go to mythical places with strange men." Douglas Adams

22nd June 2009	#77
muziekschuur Lives for gear Joined: Nov 2004 Location: Stavenisse Posts: 1,484 2 Reviews written	Maybe some strange question.... Is a Hiwatt not an high gain amp? And are there no reall high gain Fenders? I was under the impression an Fender Prosonic was somewhat highgain? __________________ I use BAGEND SPEAKERS. you should hear em too. http://www.myspace.com/a-muze#!/556701704

22nd June 2009	#78
Absolute Lives for gear Joined: May 2003 Location: NY Posts: 1,142	Great job James thanks for doing this I think it turned out great. I like the way you did the cabs. I will say that maybe the space had a bit too much low mids though. But overall it displays the different types of distortion available today __________________ ATTENTION If you just used the word MUSICAL in your post... You just repeated a term, you heard from some pansy, that has absolutely no meaning. Congratulations.....Your a follower.

22nd June 2009	#79
foldback Rocket Scientist Joined: Nov 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,221 1 Review written	high gain fun I watched all the videos and listened to all the clips. A real rock epic, a great piece of work and fantastic tool for anyone interested in maniac high-gain tube madness (like me, 9 Boogies {3 are dual rect} and a Marshall in my collection). I hope you'll post a few more details about the amps. Was the Bogner Shiva 60 watt (EL34) or 80 watt (6L6)? Awesome that Mr. Bogner himself made the scene. Was there a story behind his Christmas hat in June or just part of the insanity? I'd love to be able to download WAV clips that I could drop into my DAW and A-B the tones side by side instantly. Perhaps you can produce a CD of the raw clip files for this, I'd easily pay a few bucks to help offset the production cost and the cost of the Dos XX required. Thanks again.

21st June 2009	#65
rectifier Lives for gear Joined: Oct 2003 Location: Belgica Posts: 1,756	Insane thread - thanks James and everyone!

21st June 2009	#66
Dozerbabar Gear nut Joined: Jul 2007 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 87	Just amazing. Can't wait to hear all the clips!

21st June 2009	#68
krid Gear addict Joined: Apr 2004 Location: World Posts: 481	A big THANK YOU to James, Dave Friedman and all the guys for this shootout You rock !

21st June 2009	#71
mdme_sadie Lives for gear Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,070 2 Reviews written	Very cool, thanks for doing this! So far it really makes it clear that there is no "one amp solution" out there, lots of good tones, but for quite different reasons. The biggest difference to me seems to be in the shaping, some amps have more or less transient attack and more or less compression/sustain. If a manufacturer came up with a guitar amp that also had controls for those two elements they'd probably dominate.

21st June 2009	#72
elmagoo Gear interested Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 20	Hey James it's Benson. Nice job man, that's some serious dedication!! Turned out fantastic, lots of great stuff to listen to if you're shopping for an amp (I think my wife just took my wallet from me for my own protection p.

21st June 2009	#74
James Lugo Moderator Joined: May 2004 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 6,997 Thread Starter	Thanks guys. Sound Clips: Music page of High Gain Amp Shootout 2009 - MP3 music page on SoundClick Video Clips: 1 YouTube - High Gain Amp Shootout 1 2 YouTube - High Gain Amp Shootout 2 3 YouTube - High Gain Amp Shootout 3 4 YouTube - High Gain Amp Shootout 4 5 YouTube - High Gain Amp Shootout 5 6 YouTube - High Gain Amp Shootout 6 7 YouTube - High Gain Amp Shootout 7 8 YouTube - High Gain Amp Shootout 8 9 YouTube - High Gain Amp Shootout 9 Pics: Dropbox - Photos - Secure backup, sync and sharing made easy.

22nd June 2009	#75
Guitar James Gear interested Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 2	Totally Bad A$$

22nd June 2009	#76
biggator6 Lives for gear Joined: May 2004 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,979	That is some of the coolest stuff ever... thanks, James!

23rd June 2009	#80
James Lugo Moderator Joined: May 2004 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 6,997 Thread Starter	Well Dan and I just got done cleaning and putting the studio back together. I found beer bottles everywhere, very rock-n-roll. Here's a pick of our stack today; Mesa Boogie Dual Racto '76 Marshall JMP (Friedman Mod) Diezel Herbert '71 Marshall Super Tremolo (Friedman Mod) '74 Marshall Super Lead

23rd June 2009	#85
megl Gear maniac Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 256	Awesome ... no ... AWESOME James!!! Friedmans Marshall mods and his own amp are rocking hard! Surprised by the Sovtek and how well the Rocker 30 sits in the mix for the drop-tuned stuff! The stock 74 Marshall is great too. /megl

25th June 2009	#86
darkwater Lives for gear Joined: Oct 2005 Location: Topanga, CA Posts: 1,384	I'm more than a little bit in awe of the love that was given to this process. The final files on soundclick are SO helpful in discerning the differences between these amps. Thanks, James. Between this and the pickup shootout, i think you have earned a place in some sort of guitar geek hall of fame. I mean that in the most loving possible way. __________________ "Influences are alarm clocks of talents you already have within you."- Juana Molina "Don't play everything. Let some things go by. Some music is just imagined" - Thelonius Monk

29th June 2009	#87
bforest4 Lives for gear Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 609	Wow, can't believe I didn't see this, I am an amp and guitar shootout addict, would have been there, and brought stuff, if I knew. Will definitely be checking this out online!!

4th July 2009	#88
DRC Lives for gear Joined: Jan 2006 Location: Chicago Posts: 714	I thought the XTC and the Marsha has the most definition and control. Great rock amps. And a great way to spend day. Looks like you fellas had a great time. __________________ "One could hate digidesign and like protools." A quote from mtstudi@pacbell ____________________________________ Michael

5th July 2009	#89
NoizyNinja Gear addict Joined: Dec 2004 Location: L.A. Posts: 379	It was a blast! Thanks again James! I stayed until right after the Soldano SLO and to me it sounded amazing. Since Dave Friedman brought it I though he modded it but he said it was stock. I got a great deal for a barely used one and I'm loving it. I think it'll work great with the VH4 which is a darker amp. Overall it was an ear-opening experience. I thought the Bogners faired well along with the Friedman modded amps. Bogner is quite the character

6th July 2009	#90
Geert van den Berg Mac Moderator Joined: May 2003 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 3,454	Awesome shootout! Thanks for doing this!

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