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Old 8th April 2009   #1
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DAW Tuner > Guitar Tuner for Guitar?

Is the tuner in Logic Pro good for accurate tuning/intonation of my guitars?

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I don't know about the Logic tuner but this thing's accurate as hell and free until you feel like supporting the developer.

Here's a link to the mac download. Strobe Tuner 1.6 software download - Mac OS X - VersionTracker
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The Logic tuner should do you just fine. I happen to like the Peterson Strobosoft software tuner, the sweetened tunings are great: Peterson Strobe Tuners - StroboSoftâ„¢ 2.0 VST/AU Software
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It works pretty well for me. I also use a Peterson strobe tuner sometimes, but it's either one or the other. Just make sure you use one tuner so there's no difference, as minute as it would even be.
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Oh and I also just noticed the "intonation" bit in your question... if you're doing setups, I wouldn't use a plugin tuner.

An actual (non plugin) strobe tuner is best for that.
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Oh and I also just noticed the "intonation" bit in your question... if you're doing setups, I wouldn't use a plugin tuner.

An actual (non plugin) strobe tuner is best for that.
Unless the Peterson Strobosoft Deluxe is being used, since it has very specific intonation functionality
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Yeah, for sure... either way it just needs to be strobey
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I dont understand why tuning should be less important than intonation???
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Oh they're equally as important for sure - I was just saying that usually setting intonation involves a full setup, and you just want something a little more accurate for that sort of work as opposed to an everyday tuner.
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Hmm

Well, I wont be doing setups, but I will be setting up my own guitars on occasion.. I want something that is good for tuning as well as intonation, but because I'm not a luthier, I dont need a $3k tuner. Can you get by using a software tuner for tuning and setups?

Also- does it help at all to use the tone knobs when tuning to roll of the highs (I was thinking it might help to not confuse the tuner, and just give it more of the fundamental.)

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Don't spend 3K! Do they even make a 3K tuner? I think the Peterson Virtual Strobe is around 200 bucks, and they make a stomp box version of it too. Someone else mentioned a plugin version of it, which is also worth checking out. And like I said before, the logic tuner isn't bad at all. It's in my eyes just as good as most of the LED tuners out there. Strobe tuners are just a lot more detailed, helps in doing fine tuning for setups.

I've never rolled off the tone when tuning. Not sure what that would do. Usually for me it's bridge pickup at full volume.
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well if you do decide to get a OTB tuner . . . I just came across these:

Strobe Tuners by Sonic Research - Turbo Tuner Home Page

. . . look pretty cool

I really hate most tuners . . . either too slow, or too much info - too many lights. guess I'm just impatient~!
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I guess tuners are designed to tune guitars without special instructions, so I'll not introduce another variable by rolling off the tone knobs.

I beleive there are some $10k tuners or even more maybe.
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I just read about the Sonic Research Turbo, sounds like a great option.
Supposedly true bypass, which is handy for live work.

Even so, I do like having StroboSoft right here on my computer and
It's never been easier to tune up a non electric acoustic with the clip on mic.

For those used to plugins, I'm sure the VST and AU versions come in handy, but
I just use the standalone.


The sampling, needle tuners like the
TU-12 drove me nuts trying to nail intonation work.
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The tuner in Amplitube's Fender plug-in is pretty good – I use that in conjunction with the built one in Logic and have never had tuning problems.
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People using software tuners should be very aware that the absolute tuning accuracy (ie, is A440 really 440.00 HZ on your tuner or is it something perhaps significantly sharp or flat of that) is NOT 'absolute' -- it depends on the precision of the tuning (shaving) of the crystal that lies at the heart of a given converter's clocking.


I mention it because I recently began using the AP Tuner 3 and almost immediately noticed that "it" was out of tune by about 36 cents with the tuner plug that came with my DAW.

For a half second, I was blown away.

Then I realized that the AP Tuner was using the SoundBlaster clone interface built into my mobo and the DAW tuner was using my MOTU converters.

I calibrated the AP tuner to the MOTU using a generated 440 Hz test tone playing back over the MOTU and tracked by the AP Tuner software via the SB-clone AD, finding a near 36 cent differential between the two. Happily, the AP Tuner has the ability to enter calibration offsets so everything matches up nicely now.
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I've always had a touch time getting Peterson's Stroboft (and version 2) getting to properly read the B and high E string on a guitar. (I've tried all sorts of things, but it is very inconsistent and annoying.)
Since all my guitars plug-in, I usually use the Peterson's stomp pedal.
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I've always had a touch time getting Peterson's Stroboft (and version 2) getting to properly read the B and high E string on a guitar. (I've tried all sorts of things, but it is very inconsistent and annoying.)
Since all my guitars plug-in, I usually use the Peterson's stomp pedal.
I have a hard time getting strobosoft v2 to read the low E on my bass properly.
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