2x12 Cabinets - Orange vs Avatar

Doctor Ox · 12th June 2007, 04:10 AM

Hi everyone..first time poster here, so sorry if I break any rules. I have a JCM800 2210 from 89, and am downsizing from a 4x12 to a 2x12, to go with my tiny nyc apartment. I play power-pop music ala motion city soundtrack (you can check it out here - www.thisisdarling.com). Anyways, I was about to place an order for the Orange 2x12, as I have played through them and have been happy (they have always delivered a full sound for a 2x12)...but I keep reading great things about the Avatar cabinets...

Long story short...am I stupid for paying for a new Orange cab, when the Avatar is half the price? I am looking for something to help brighten up my jcm800 and give it more of a "radio" pop-rock distortion. So...orange? avatar? shell out the big bucks for a bogner?

Help before I stay up all night reading threads!

Thanks for your input.

84K · 12th June 2007, 04:23 AM

peeder · 12th June 2007, 04:39 AM

I think speakers have to be very carefully matched to amplifiers because try as I may switching them up doesn't quite cut it with my amps at least. There isn't a "best" speaker there are only best pairings.

I think Avatar makes a fine cabinet that you can put the speakers appropriate for your amp inside and save dough. For your amp and desired style you might go with the Hellatone 30's (broken in G12H30s) which I like on a modern marshall. The THD mentioned above uses an Eminence speaker and a partially open back for $600...I haven't heard it.

megl · 12th June 2007, 03:04 PM

Orange makes amazing cabs!

But I agree, that you have to try it to see if it pairs well with your amp

/megl

84K · 12th June 2007, 05:53 PM

The THD ported 2X12 has two different speakers that undergo treatment by the guys at THD. It sounds huge.

nathanvacha · 25th June 2007, 07:10 PM

I can say i've heard 800's on oranges sound absolutely amazing.

Gear Tramp · 25th June 2007, 08:28 PM

I'll take an Orange 2x12 over an Avantone 2x12.

I'll take an Orange 2x12 over a THD 2x12.

I'll take an Orange 2x12 over a Mesa 2x12.

But I'll take a Mesa 4x12 over an Orange 2x12.

rob S · 25th June 2007, 09:27 PM

lopo makes a very noce 2x12 cabinet as well.
loaded with Vintage 30's.
excellent recording rig.
i have the THD, didn't care for it as much.
it was loaded with 80w celestions.
took those out and have been experimenting with various combinations.

max cooper · 26th June 2007, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gear Tramp

I'll take an Orange 2x12 over an Avantone 2x12.

I'll take an Orange 2x12 over a THD 2x12.

I'll take an Orange 2x12 over a Mesa 2x12.

But I'll take a Mesa 4x12 over an Orange 2x12.

I'll take almost any good 4x12 over almost any 2x12. Just saying. If you're in a Manhattan apt. even a 2x12 is big, though.

Mario-C. · 26th June 2007, 01:30 AM

I really like the orange 2x12 cab with vintage 30's ...
I'll take it over a marshall 4x12 anytime ...

I would like to compare it to a mesa 2x12 though

mattasbob · 26th June 2007, 01:35 AM

Hate to throw antoerh one into the mix but you shoudl take a chance and check out tonetools cabs, they are AMAZING!!! Tone-Tools

As for the cabs you are going through both are excellent and will yield great results.

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12th June 2007, 04:10 AM	#1
Doctor Ox Gear interested Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 7	2x12 Cabinets - Orange vs Avatar Hi everyone..first time poster here, so sorry if I break any rules. I have a JCM800 2210 from 89, and am downsizing from a 4x12 to a 2x12, to go with my tiny nyc apartment. I play power-pop music ala motion city soundtrack (you can check it out here - www.thisisdarling.com). Anyways, I was about to place an order for the Orange 2x12, as I have played through them and have been happy (they have always delivered a full sound for a 2x12)...but I keep reading great things about the Avatar cabinets... Long story short...am I stupid for paying for a new Orange cab, when the Avatar is half the price? I am looking for something to help brighten up my jcm800 and give it more of a "radio" pop-rock distortion. So...orange? avatar? shell out the big bucks for a bogner? Help before I stay up all night reading threads! Thanks for your input.

26th June 2007, 01:35 AM	#11
mattasbob Gear nut Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Ottawa Posts: 135	Hate to throw antoerh one into the mix but you shoudl take a chance and check out tonetools cabs, they are AMAZING!!! Tone-Tools As for the cabs you are going through both are excellent and will yield great results. __________________ www.shatteredwings.com www.myspace.com/theprescotts

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12th June 2007, 04:23 AM	#2
84K Lives for gear Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: right coast Posts: 3,713	THD

12th June 2007, 04:39 AM	#3
peeder Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,549	I think speakers have to be very carefully matched to amplifiers because try as I may switching them up doesn't quite cut it with my amps at least. There isn't a "best" speaker there are only best pairings. I think Avatar makes a fine cabinet that you can put the speakers appropriate for your amp inside and save dough. For your amp and desired style you might go with the Hellatone 30's (broken in G12H30s) which I like on a modern marshall. The THD mentioned above uses an Eminence speaker and a partially open back for $600...I haven't heard it.

12th June 2007, 03:04 PM	#4
megl Gear maniac Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 166	Orange makes amazing cabs! But I agree, that you have to try it to see if it pairs well with your amp /megl

12th June 2007, 05:53 PM	#5
84K Lives for gear Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: right coast Posts: 3,713	The THD ported 2X12 has two different speakers that undergo treatment by the guys at THD. It sounds huge.

25th June 2007, 07:10 PM	#6
nathanvacha Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Orlando Posts: 1,180	I can say i've heard 800's on oranges sound absolutely amazing.

25th June 2007, 08:28 PM	#7
Gear Tramp Lives for gear Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 661	I'll take an Orange 2x12 over an Avantone 2x12. I'll take an Orange 2x12 over a THD 2x12. I'll take an Orange 2x12 over a Mesa 2x12. But I'll take a Mesa 4x12 over an Orange 2x12.

25th June 2007, 09:27 PM	#8
rob S Gear addict Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: silverlake Posts: 439	lopo makes a very noce 2x12 cabinet as well. loaded with Vintage 30's. excellent recording rig. i have the THD, didn't care for it as much. it was loaded with 80w celestions. took those out and have been experimenting with various combinations.