3rd December 2003
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#1 | | Lives for gear
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Thread Starter | Pictures of Mic'ed up GUITAR CABS
Thought I should start a thread about something like this.
I originally had a TLM 103 accompanied with the 57 but took it off.
57 alone won on this take! 45 degrees facing a few inches away from the cone.
Post your pics of your various setups on this thread
Jason
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3rd December 2003
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#2 | | Lives for gear
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Wow! What a radical approach! How'd you come up with that mic technique?!  (just kidding....)
Goes to show that sometimes the tried and true is that way for a reason!
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4th December 2003
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#3 | | Lives for gear
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You SHURE got that right
(pun definitely intended)
Jason
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4th December 2003
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#4 | | High End Moderator
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#5 | | Lives for gear
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So I take it you have some 4X12 cabinets for sale? |
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#6 | | Lives for gear
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4th December 2003
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#7 | | Gearslutz.com admin
Joined: Apr 2002 Location: A Yank in London, UK |
Distorted high gain gtr
I like to poke an AKG D112 into the "handle hole" on the side of a 4 x 12.
Then run that through a foucusrite 215 channel - eq out the "honk" and boost the 'fizz' .
At times it adds a cool quazi ambient metalic shred to the regular mic (s) on the front. |
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4th December 2003
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#8 | | Gear addict
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Call me crazy but I've never really liked the sound of a mic right up on the speaker. Must have tried it a thousand times and I always seem to move it back a few feet at least to let the sound develop. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think it was Jimmy Page who said "distance = depth" and it seems like a good measuring stick to start with.
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4th December 2003
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#9 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Feb 2003 Location: Hollywood CA
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Hey Michael, I recently bought a Royer 122, what's aproximatively the distance in the picture from the speaker ?
Michele
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4th December 2003
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#10 | | Gear addict
Joined: Mar 2003 Location: The Netherlands (yes that's the country surrounding Amsterdam!)
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57 + 421 on vintage Marshall / C3000 on vintage Vox
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4th December 2003
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#11 | | Lives for gear
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Hi all,
Here's the setup I had with two heavy rockin' guitar aces last week (both definitely slutz  )
Greetings,
Dirk
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4th December 2003
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#12 | | High End Moderator
Joined: May 2002 Location: Music City USA | Quote: Originally posted by denial Call me crazy but I've never really liked the sound of a mic right up on the speaker. Must have tried it a thousand times and I always seem to move it back a few feet at least to let the sound develop. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think it was Jimmy Page who said "distance = depth" and it seems like a good measuring stick to start with. | have you tried a ribbon mic (fig 8)? it picks up a lot of the room from the backside of the mic, but the close micing gives you an in-your-face kinda sound. The Royers can stand a lot of SPL but they don't enhance that nasty high end of a distorted amp, even when close to the speaker. Quote: Originally posted by kaneepa Hey Michael, I recently bought a Royer 122, what's aproximatively the distance in the picture from the speaker ?
Michele | it's a couple of inches away from the speaker, right smack in the center of the cone.
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4th December 2003
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#13 | | Lives for gear
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Michael Du musst verrückt oder ein Genie sein.
Gruss Jo
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4th December 2003
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#14 | | Lives for gear
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| Quote: Originally posted by mwagener have you tried a ribbon mic (fig 8)? it picks up a lot of the room from the backside of the mic, but the close micing gives you an in-your-face kinda sound. | I’m another one from the Jimmy Page school - but the Royer sounds like it may be the best of both worlds - I’ll give it a try - thanks.
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#15 | | Lives for gear
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I've been waiting to have a peek at Wagener's setup. Nice.
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4th December 2003
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#16 | | High End Moderator
Joined: May 2002 Location: Music City USA | Quote: Originally posted by studjo Michael Du musst verrückt oder ein Genie sein.
Gruss Jo | wahrscheinlich eher verrückt... |
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5th December 2003
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#17 | | Gear addict
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| Quote: Originally posted by mwagener have you tried a ribbon mic (fig 8)? it picks up a lot of the room from the backside of the mic, but the close micing gives you an in-your-face kinda sound. The Royers can stand a lot of SPL but they don't enhance that nasty high end of a distorted amp, evewn when close to the speaker. | Sounds like good advice, I'll give it a go. Thanks.
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5th December 2003
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#18 | | Gear nut
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"For your pleasure" - hey what a great title for an album!
I'm pretty old school - a 57 or 421 seems to work most of the time. I'll sometimes set up a room mic but rarely use much of it in the final mix.
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6th December 2003
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#19 | | Lives for gear
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NO SNICKERING!!
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6th December 2003
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#20 | | Lives for gear
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| Quote: Originally posted by subspace NO SNICKERING!! | Awwwwwwwww how cute are they? |
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6th December 2003
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#21 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Nov 2003 Location: Los Angeles, Ca.
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Very cool Sub!
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#22 | | Capitol Studios Paris
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An older photo before getting my 121s. I get most of my e-git sounds nowadays with Royer 121s (cone center, like MW, often turned slightly to the left or right) and older 57s, with the occasional 421 now and then. Usual e-git mic pres : EMI Chandler TG2, Neve 1073 or 1089, SSL J, API.
In this pic : Ampeg SVT2Pro and H810, various vintage Fenders, a Vox AC30 from Lenny Kravitz, various Marshall heads, a Rectifier head and Mesa 2x12 cab, a couple of JCM800 4x12 cabs and a Soldano HotRod100+. And a few pedals.
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6th December 2003
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#23 | | Gear addict
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Sub,
What the hell is on top of the little Marshall?
I heard Bob Mould from Husker Du/Sugar used to record all his guitars through a series of super small amps. Not sure if that's true or just a rumor.
Bobby Peru
Milwaukee, WI
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7th December 2003
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#24 | | Lives for gear
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| Quote: Originally posted by BobbyPeru Sub,
What the hell is on top of the little Marshall?
I heard Bob Mould from Husker Du/Sugar used to record all his guitars through a series of super small amps. Not sure if that's true or just a rumor.
Bobby Peru
Milwaukee, WI | Not sure really... some old phono amp from the pre-stereo days called a Boulevard. It's got treble, bass, volume, and input select knobs, with two 12AX7s and two EL84s for amplification. Besides the magnetic, ceramic, RIAA, flat, old LP, tuner, and aux RCA inputs, it's got one marked hi impedence output which handles gtr pre outputs nicely.
As it happens, Grant Hart's booking agent gave it to me along with the little red Marshall 1x10 for driving up to help him out on a tracking session while I was on vacation. Actually, everything in that picture was given to me, including the LittleLabs re-amp box driving the rig, thanks to the GS giveaway contest and the winning answer - Michael Wagener. It seems all guitar amp threads lead back to Michael Wagener...
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#25 | | Lives for gear
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| Quote: Originally posted by subspace It seems all guitar amp threads lead back to Michael Wagener... | Well, over the years he has gotten one or two 'good' tones down... |
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7th December 2003
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#26 | | SawSlut
Joined: Oct 2002 Location: 22 Acacia Avenue
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The "Slipperman Method" in action. What the pic doesn't show you are the 115dB's screaming thru the room.
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8th December 2003
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#27 | | Lives for gear
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| Quote: Originally posted by DirkB Hi all,
Here's the setup I had with two heavy rockin' guitar aces last week (both definitely slutz )
Greetings,
Dirk | Dirk, how are those Engl 2x12 cabs?
Martin
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8th December 2003
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#28 | | Lives for gear
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Martin,
Compared to for example a Marshal 4x10, they are a little more broadband (deeper lows, more extend in the highs) and more dynamic. They give a slightly less midrange feel, great for hardrock, metal kinda stuff.
Greetings,
Dirk
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9th December 2003
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#29 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Dec 2003 Location: Berlin
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I don´t know how to post pictures here so i did a smal website :-D
www.averyrock.com/Gearslutz
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9th December 2003
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#30 | | Lives for gear
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| Quote: Originally posted by DirkB Martin,
Compared to for example a Marshal 4x10, they are a little more broadband (deeper lows, more extend in the highs) and more dynamic. They give a slightly less midrange feel, great for hardrock, metal kinda stuff.
Greetings,
Dirk | Thank you Dirk, I was looking at a replacement for my old Marshall 4x12, which absolutely blows and sounds very tiny when recorded. I also own two Mesa Rectifier 4x12 cabs that sound good live, but I'm not too convinced of their recorded tone. I have never tried 2x12 cabs before and I'm looking for a nice one that's loaded with Vintage 30's and sounds huge. The Engl looks very appealing, but I heard great things about the Bogner, Diezel and Orange, too. I mainly record metal and have a project studio at home. Noise is a problem and 2x12 cabs should produce a little less volume, than a 4x12 design. I definitely have to try one of these little monsters
Cheers,
Martin
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