Pictures of Mic'ed up GUITAR CABS

[Full Clip Audio]

I cant believe no one has posted this one yet....

[NandoOg7]

Originally Posted by te-problematique

alright i'll bight with a question: you all seem to do the whole 2 mics directly together thing, surely this is in direct contadiction to the 3:1 rule? how do you guys manage to make that work? is there some other rule when if they're next to each other sh*t just works?

Thanks guys! this thread is mega helpful!

I actually learned this on gearslutz, but basically I start out with the 57 on-axis right on the cone to get the brightest tone, then back up a bit until the low end kicks in. Then I bring in the second mic with the phase already flipped and do the off-axis. Try to get the most canceled sound I can get, obviously using headphones (extreme isolation ones rule). Then go back to the control room, flip that phase back and, tadda!

[NandoOg7]

Originally Posted by Full Clip Audio

I cant believe no one has posted this one yet....

LMAO!

[Astrain]

Originally Posted by Full Clip Audio

I cant believe no one has posted this one yet....

Hahaha, best mic technique ever




Where did you got that picture?

[ripit]

no one talked about the use of M88 ?

ok, last guitar i recorded (telecaster thrue Orange Head and London City cab modified with 2 celestion Vintage in), i close miked in axis of 1 of the celestion with an M88, and the original speaker Off axis with e609 + a NT2 as room mike 6 feet away.

Mixing M88 full center, e609 on the right and NT2 on the left.

sounded pretty large and finally Mono-compatible.


***in around with the phase is what gives the space, especially with several guitars layers (close mike on a side and room on the other, and opposite for a second guitar without correcting phase)

sorry no pix

other experience i made like follow :

guitar > tremolo> splitted with RE-201 space echo reissue in 3 amps :
Left to right :
Baby Blue SWR (bass amp) miked with D112
London city Head with 2x12" yamaha cab miked with 421
Hugh&kethner Tube50 with e609
+ a XY pair of akg C535 9 feet away
reproducing the position of the amp with the panning in the mix and... reverse the pans of the stereo pair

you can check the result (sadly baaaaaaaaaad myspace mp3) :
MySpace.com - Solar Skeletons - SUN, SOLAR SYSTEM - Industrial / Folk - www.myspace.com/solarskeletons
the "moisted blues" song.

[Pearl.masters]

yummy! sounded great! boy did i love this session! the vox running through the greenbacks sounded GREAT!

[andychamp]

Originally Posted by gigantorbuzz

(...) when i came in with the camera i was kinda shocked! but hey it worked! Cab is a CAE 2x12 with Vintage 30s

Just for giggles I tried it once, and it's become my new starting point for 421s. Great for that slightly hollow/nasal early-master-volume-Marshall tone.
Just make sure the guitar player hears it before he sees it.

[andychamp]

Left speaker: celestion G12/65, Sennheiser MD421 into Manley Voxbox.
Right speaker: Celestion Vintage30, Crowley&Tripp NakedEye Roswellite into Chandler Germanium.

I've also got some audio files which I'll try to attach to the next post(s).

[andychamp]

There's 1 MP3 of each spkr./mic/pre combo and one file with 2 takes of each, layered and spread L/R.
Original recordings were 96kHz/24bit, direct to disk. No compression, EQ or normalizing.

Guitar was a Strat-body with a Seymour Duncan Pearly Gates bridge PU into an Engl Savage60 amp.

[fuzzyguitars]

Originally Posted by andychamp

There's 1 MP3 of each spkr./mic/pre combo and one file with 2 takes of each, layered and spread L/R.
Original recordings were 96kHz/24bit, direct to disk. No compression, EQ or normalizing.

Guitar was a Strat-body with a Seymour Duncan Pearly Gates bridge PU into an Engl Savage60 amp.

my fave was the first one!

[str1ke4ce]

Originally Posted by subspace

NO SNICKERING!!

I love it! And a kid with some talent could make this setup sound good as the pros..had to laugh though :-)

[tracktension]

here ya go ..they wanted that " huge reverb sound ". they got it.and i know youve all seen this one.

[monkeyxx]

Originally Posted by andychamp

There's 1 MP3 of each spkr./mic/pre combo and one file with 2 takes of each, layered and spread L/R.
Original recordings were 96kHz/24bit, direct to disk. No compression, EQ or normalizing.

Guitar was a Strat-body with a Seymour Duncan Pearly Gates bridge PU into an Engl Savage60 amp.

wow, that sounds really good!

[studjo]

Originally Posted by monkeyxx

wow, that sounds really good!

thumbsupthumbsupthumbsup

Jo

[EMS4HIM]

Comparing mic sounds....



And the vintage 421 won....

[Recycled_Brains]

60's Ampeg Reverberocket --> Beyer M160 --> AMI/TAB-Funkenwerk V78M:

[IntenseJim]

SM75 at cone's margin
R121 ('turned backwards') centered on cone (pic is angled and tilted...need more coffee)
Soldano cab with Soldano Eminence Power speakers

[NandoOg7]

Originally Posted by IntenseJim

SM75 at cone's margin
R121 ('turned backwards') centered on cone (pic is angled and tilted...need more coffee)
Soldano cab with Soldano Eminence Power speakers

Damn, I gotta get me one of those SM75's!

[IntenseJim]

Originally Posted by NandoOg7

Damn, I gotta get me one of those SM75's!

Go for it. They sound 1.3x better than the 57.

[Robert Randolph]

Originally Posted by IntenseJim

SM75 at cone's margin
R121 ('turned backwards') centered on cone (pic is angled and tilted...need more coffee)
Soldano cab with Soldano Eminence Power speakers

Zip ties to match the gaudy colouring of the amp or just channel identification?

[Tonio Ruiz]

this is the set up I just did for my band's new CD recording

I've used SM57's, MD421's, Roger 121, 414, API and GreatRiver pre's on them

I am sooooo thrilled with the "beefiness" of the guitars, absolutely loved it

[AntillesSound]

Originally Posted by by-tor

another

that room looks awfullllyyyyy familiar.

did borden talk you into using so many mics/cabs?

[IntenseJim]

Originally Posted by Tonio Ruiz

Roger 121

I gotta try the Roger 121 with my SM75.

[Daedalus77]

From a session last night. Going for a Son Volt-esqe grind with some Voxy chime. (Bad Cat did this nicely.) EV Cardinal was a surprise. Full-bodied—especially in the low mids. 57 did what you'd expect. KM184 was a disappointment. Gefell (UMT70S) in figure-eight added some nice sparkle and a bit of room. All through Avedis MA5 (except the Gefell, which went to a Great River), to AD16X, to PT.

[Toad]

Originally Posted by Daedalus77

From a session last night. Going for a Son Volt-esqe grind with some Voxy chime. (Bad Cat did this nicely.) EV Cardinal was a surprise. Full-bodied—especially in the low mids. 57 did what you'd expect. KM184 was a disappointment. Gefell (UMT70S) in figure-eight added some nice sparkle and a bit of room. All through Avedis MA5 (except the Gefell, which went to a Great River), to AD16X, to PT.

I bet that was a quiet set up!!

[digitalM]

Recording session for RR amplifiers. Purpose of the session was to record reference samples of the custom RR tube amp for use on the builder's website. All recordings are just the guitar plugged straight into the amp. After the business-part of the session we had some good fun playing with all the goodies in the rack .

I'll see if I can upload some sound samples of this session later or you can listen to them at : Welkom op de site van RR Amplifiers ( English version not working, but you can find the samples on the Dutch page under media ).

Cheers,
Martijn.

[Paddlepop lion]

When you blokes are close micing cabs, do you find that the room makes much difference?

cheers mate!

[digitalM]

Most of the time I mic the room as well. You can't see it in the pics but I'm using a AKG C422 in M/S for room tone. For me it's a substantial part of the sound. Using only close mics I'd say the room does matter depending on where the amp is placed. I get different sounds placing an amp in a corner, directly on the floor ( wood, concrete or tiles give different sounds ) or decoupled from the floor.

Cheers,
Martijn.

[Paddlepop lion]

Thanks for that mate. I am in the middle of acoustically treating my tracking room which is very small and boxy and am interested to see if the treatment effects the sonics of my close micd guitar cabs. Guess I will find out.

[J.S.Vega III]

Awesome photos, digitalM!!

I can't get the samples to work on the website, if you're able to upload some here that would be great.