Pictures of Mic'ed up GUITAR CABS

[joeydego]

complete noob question for all you PROs. Whats the MOST important, treated room, good mic, or good pre. If ONE of these three things had to suck, what would yeild the best result? Second, how important is the room when using dynamic mics like the 609 or the 57 close up?

[Gie-Sound]

[TheArchitect]

Originally Posted by johnnyjellybean

4 mics on the cab are ..... Heil PR40, Kel HM1, Shure SM57 and Shure 589S

Why do you have the tops of all the side address mics pointed at the speakers?

[Recycled_Brains]

Originally Posted by TheArchitect

Why do you have the tops of all the side address mics pointed at the speakers?

Not sure about the Kel mic, but the PR40 is not side address.

[TheArchitect]

Originally Posted by Recycled_Brains

Not sure about the Kel mic, but the PR40 is not side address.

The kel is definitely side address..

[heyman]

Originally Posted by joeydego

complete noob question for all you PROs. Whats the MOST important, treated room, good mic, or good pre. If ONE of these three things had to suck, what would yeild the best result? Second, how important is the room when using dynamic mics like the 609 or the 57 close up?

I would Say..

Good Mic..
Treated Room
Mic pre.

[mildav]

that's my last work------akg 414 on cab and u87 room mic

[joeydego]

Originally Posted by Paddlepop lion

Thanks for that mate. I am in the middle of acoustically treating my tracking room which is very small and boxy and am interested to see if the treatment effects the sonics of my close micd guitar cabs. Guess I will find out.

how did it work out?

[pan60]

Originally Posted by soundsundergroun

To those who put pop screens in front of ribbons:

Doesn't the cab's grill cloth perform the same function?

depends on the rather its a pop filter or a Blast Pad, that is in regards to just how effective it is: )~

[-Noodles-]

Originally Posted by TheArchitect

The kel is definitely side address..

hm1 No mention here, unless I'm missing something!

[AudioWonderland]

Originally Posted by -Noodles-

hm1 No mention here, unless I'm missing something!

Just look at the mic, you can see the capsule. Its side address. The picture in your link is even clearer as they removed the top. Its also clearly stated in the manual that comes with it that the side with the logo is the front

[greyskull]

yowzers... some of you guys mic REEEEEEEALLY close. I mean i thought an inch away was close; dont you have trouble with proximity effect?

[heyman]

Although I dont have a picture of a quick session I did last friday night.. This chain sounded really good..

Rock/Country tune..


Telecaster.. Lindy Fralin pickups - Peavey Vipre 1x12 combo amp.. Royer 122- Api 3124 pre ..

The amp was in the control room. Volume was set really low and I cranked the
API pre for makeup gain. Just moved the royer around till I found the sweet spot using headphones..Slighty off axis - about 2 inches away from the grill

One of the best guitar sounds I ever got..

Guys- Check out those Peavey vipre amps... Highly underated..!

[Chrislpp]

Originally Posted by greyskull

yowzers... some of you guys mic REEEEEEEALLY close. I mean i thought an inch away was close; dont you have trouble with proximity effect?

If you mean the sound of the 57's diaphragm being raped from heavy guitar sounds then yes, I do until I pull it back a few inches...then the tone I wanted changes

[Slikjmuzik]

Originally Posted by heyman

One of the best guitar sounds I ever got..

Guys- Check out those Peavey vipre amps... Highly underated..!

I have them here at the store. I always thought they sounded good, have only heard complaints that they come back a lot. They have some killer models and recently came out with tube versions, kinda like th Bogner versions of the Line6 combos. I personally use the Fender SuperChamp. I switched the tubes out for Mesa Boogie tube. It's a amazing with an sm7 and an AEA R92 in front of it.

[JPeters86]

Originally Posted by -Noodles-

hm1 No mention here, unless I'm missing something!

Look at the capsule and you'll see. Plus I have two and can confirm they're side address.

Perhaps they're placed different on the speakers for artistic reasons

[andychamp]

Originally Posted by greyskull

yowzers... some of you guys mic REEEEEEEALLY close. I mean i thought an inch away was close; dont you have trouble with proximity effect?

Actually, that P.E. can often be helpful in turning some guitarists' trebly, "real" tone into the beefy wallopp they expect and are used to from the records they listen to.
Ribbon mics with their fig.-8 pickup pattern exhibit even more proximity effect than other mics and have a softer top as well.

[ksm]

Few pics from recent "almost on location" session.
Mics:
T.b. Cheap ribbon
Sennheiser md421
Akg C414 (Omni) behind the amp
Akg C414 (Omni) in the room

This setup was used for some overdubs, and with few tracks with Martin acoustic guitar plucked into the amp.

- Niko

[Brent]

Using this setup for our next release. Maybe I should add a dedicated room mic, because I really like how the figure 8 of the royer adds more dimension to the close mic sound by picking up some of the room wash. The 421 went into the Germanium, while the Royer 121 went into the Avedis MA5. We used the backside of the Royer for a little more bite.

To align the phase relationship we put the guitar pickups near a laptop to get some funky midrange interference through the speaker, then tried to null it out as best we could with one of the mics having reverse polarity. Then flipped it back. Also tried Mr Wagener's 'middle of the head' trick for kicks too

[Jbassist]

That wizard amp looks insane! whats the sound like?

This weekend:
Bass setup:

which doesn't work without some opto tube compression offcourse

Guitar setup:

[musicmarcus]

After that huge load of amps and mics my little home setup for recording
guitar tracks for my band. I´m still trying to find nice positions for those mics.
SM57 works great in every position

cheers

[studjo]

Originally Posted by musicmarcus

SM57 works great in every position

cheers

just use the SM57 - done

[OneWayOut]

Originally Posted by mwagener

This one is before:

This is how Andy Johns had me mic the guitar cabs for a Cult live DVD we recorded in LA a few years back!!!!

We were all going "WHAT THE *&^$" it looked crazy but he is the MASTER!!!

[hedgehog]

From the last recording session I did, Peavey 5150 and dual Rectifier.

[digitalM]

[Tonio Ruiz]

this is a setting I used recently on a "re-recording" of a record, the room I used this time which have a very nice treatment make a huge difference than the first time, as many slutz fellas have said, the room is SO important to the sound

any way, here is what I did lately and worked wonderful

[paulreed]

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ooopppsss how not to mic up the amp. I thought a little humor would be nice for the new year

[Jo E]

I do think you did a quiet nice job, the amp is micd , proberbly won´t sound that good, but the again

Originally Posted by paulreed

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ooopppsss how not to mic up the amp. I thought a little humor would be nice for the new year

[NandoOg7]

Weird mic combo, right?

[LRGinc]

Latest go for a blues lead track...