27th October 2006
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#1 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Sep 2006 Location: Silver Spring, MD
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Thread Starter | An outboard effects processor for around $2500
What would some of you suggest I buy. I'm looking for something that does good reverb, delay and modulation effects. While I have some great plugins, I'd like something that will bring my mixes up to world class standard.
Thanks,
IPH
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27th October 2006
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#2 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Nov 2003 Location: Idyllwild, CA
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Kurzweil KSP8. With careful shopping, you can get one for your budget. Also, they come up used occasionally for around $2000.00 usually.
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27th October 2006
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#3 | | Gear Guru
Joined: Jun 2002 Location: New York City
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Originally Posted by IPLayHamers I'd like something that will bring my mixes up to world class standard.
Thanks,
IPH | No one unit will do that alone.
Better to use the dough and focus on seperate units that specialize on those specific things.
Problem is with $2500 you can't get all 3.
The most expensive will be the reverb and a "world class" reverb machine(ala Lexicon 480L or EMT 250) will be either twice or triple your budget
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27th October 2006
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#4 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Sep 2006 Location: Silver Spring, MD
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Thread Starter | Quote:
Originally Posted by thethrillfactor No one unit will do that alone.
Better to use the dough and focus on seperate units that specialize on those specific things.
Problem is with $2500 you can't get all 3.
The most expensive will be the reverb and a "world class" reverb machine(ala Lexicon 480L or EMT 250) will be either twice or triple your budget |
With the $2500 where should I start? I could possibly pad that amount a little. Maybe as high as $3500, but I'd be stretching it.
Thanks,
IPH
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#5 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Sep 2002 Location: Elmont NY |
For the money your spending, you aren't going to find anything as nice as a Kurzweil KSP8, you get really nice reverbs and tons of really useful and interesting fx. You can have up to 8 mono engines with their own I/O or any combi of mono and stereo up to 8 in and out. The reverbs are absolutely record quality, there really is nothing like it for the price, unless you can find a crazy deal on one of the eventide boxes.
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#6 | | Lives for gear
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If I was about to spend $3K specifically on reverb I'd wait for that Bricasti unit to come out... at least to take a listen to it. The old guys from Lexicon have developed a new rack unit that will *supposedly* step to some of the high end reverbs. Of course, it's all heresay... but you might as well hold out another month or two if you can.
If you need to get rolling and need one good multi-purpose unit, the KSP8 does seem like a logical choice. Can you get one to listen to before you buy?
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27th October 2006
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#7 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Sep 2006 Location: Silver Spring, MD
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Thread Starter |
Years ago I had a DP/4 and loved it, so I know Kurzweil can do great effects. The KSP8 is in the budget and from what I've read and your recommendations seems like the way to go.
Of course I'm always open to other suggestions, but this seems right.
IPH
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#8 | | Lives for gear
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I agree about the KSP8. Do some price comparative shopping and get a KSP8 with the remote and whichever I/O expansion board suits your needs.
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27th October 2006
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#9 | | Gear Guru
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For $3500 i would:
1) Buy an H3000 DSX or DSE for pitchshifting effects and modualtion effects-$800
2) A pair of Lexcon PCM42's for delays-$2K
3) A Sony DPS-V77 for modulation and synthethic plates-$350
4) A Ensoniq DP4+ or Yamaha ProR3 for "blending" darker type of effects-$350
Total-$3500
Hopefully for plugs you have Altiverb and the Princeton Digital reverb for rooms and real spaces.
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27th October 2006
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#10 | | Lives for gear
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you can also get a used TC 5000 these days for cheap. maybe $2K or less. nice all around box, though it won't give you the Lexicon vibe.
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27th October 2006
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#11 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by thethrillfactor For $3500 i would:
1) Buy an H3000 DSX or DSE for pitchshifting effects and modualtion effects-$800
2) A pair of Lexcon PCM42's for delays-$2K
3) A Sony DPS-V77 for modulation and synthethic plates-$350
4) A Ensoniq DP4+ or Yamaha ProR3 for "blending" darker type of effects-$350
Total-$3500
Hopefully for plugs you have Altiverb and the Princeton Digital reverb for rooms and real spaces. | that's 3rd world class |
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#12 | | One with big hooves
Joined: May 2002 Location: Earth, NYC metro |
Yeah...I'd spend that $3000 on seperate FX boxes too I think...
Get a used Lex PCM 90/91 or 300...the TC M3000 is pretty hip too. Maybe a TC M2000 or Eventide H3000 of some type for multi-FX...a pair of delays like PCM 41's or the Roland ddl box, 3000? Maybe a couple of less expensive multi-FX boxes like Yomama's to cover the extra flanges, chorus & whatever else crops up during a mix. Plus, sometimes a mix just calls for grainy 12-bit verb on some element...
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28th October 2006
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#13 | | Pragmatic Snob
Joined: Oct 2004 Location: The Land of Sunshine
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a platesonics plate and 2 x lex 42, or one lex 42 and an echoplex. starkly simple, utterly basic, undeniably world class.
use plugs for your modulation effects. not as good as hardware, but with a real plate you won't care. well, at least i wouldn't.
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31st October 2006
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#14 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Jul 2004 Location: Perth, WA
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Where can you get a pair of PCM 42s for $2k?
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31st October 2006
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#15 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by effectsnut that's 3rd world class  | *cough*
3rd world class is a few old DeltaLabs Effectron Delays...
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31st October 2006
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#16 | | Gear Guru
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Originally Posted by knightsy Where can you get a pair of PCM 42s for $2k? |
Look on Ebay.
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