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akg c422 has the ck12 capsule ?

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the akg c422 has the ck12 capsule ?


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hello ppl


the akg c422 has the ck12 capsule ?


thanks a lot

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Sure?

I hope the link works:

http://www.akg.com/products/powersla...nguage,DE.html

In 'Produktinfo' you find a german descriptio. In the first line they write: ...two double-membrane capsules CK12 ...

But they also write ... CK12 as in the C414 ...

Did AKG use CK12 in the 414 back in the seventies???

I'm confused.

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Some AKG 414 Eb have the CK12 capsules
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I know, as I read and speak German..but the 422 does not use the CK12.
It uses a design specially made for that mic.


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Sure?

I hope the link works:

http://www.akg.com/products/powersla...nguage,DE.html

In 'Produktinfo' you find a german descriptio. In the first line they write: ...two double-membrane capsules CK12 ...

But they also write ... CK12 as in the C414 ...

Did AKG use CK12 in the 414 back in the seventies???

I'm confused.

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When AKG introduced the "Teflon" capsule in the late 1970s, it conveniently retained the name "CK12" for that new capsule development. Hence the confusion in official AKG literature.

Your 422 and all other large diaphragm AKG tube and solid state mics since the time of the switch over in the 1970s have used one of two new-style "CK12" Teflon capsules:

Either the standard issue "414" type, as used in all black-bodied 414s after the discontinued silver 414EB (this capsule is mostly described as rather gray and uninteresting sounding) or the Teflon capsule with revamped backplates, which is used in the C12 VR and 414 TLII mics.

If I remember correctly, the relatively recent reissue of the silver-bodied C414EB (it's actually nothing like the original C414 EB on the inside) also uses the TLII capsule.

Hope this helped.
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the relatively recent reissue of the silver-bodied C414EB
Never heard of that one... Got links?
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Please share your ideas of how you use the c422 and for what task.
I am a proud owner and i like it a lot.
Would like to know how you guys are using it ( angles, patterns etc. )

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a great mic for sure,

personaly i use it for field recordings or mobile recording for classical contemporary music in MS
and had great results
high diaphragm 90° figure 8
low diaphragm 0° cardioid

with a lawo ms matrix as insert in an uln2
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lawo ms matrix ? do you have some pics or a link ?

I would like to get a MS matrix like the dangerous ( kinda expensive ) for mixing and mastering.

when doing ms i usually do the split tracks task or use my 9098 dma.
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422 and 426 both used here as a main pickup(normally in blumlein , MS or crossed hypercardiod)

all classical..

or sometimes I also use it in blumlein to record bluegrass groups...one pickup only..
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Some AKG 414 Eb have the CK12 capsules
That would be called a C414 TL II
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I use mine for anything that I want a single point stereo pickup. Small ensemble recording as a main (only mic), large ensemble recordings as a main with flanks, piano spot mics (classical and jazz), single point drum mic for jazz...

There are tons of things where this mic shines. I own a lot of mics and the 422 and 426 are probably some of my favorites.

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I use mine for anything that I want a single point stereo pickup. Small ensemble recording as a main (only mic), large ensemble recordings as a main with flanks, piano spot mics (classical and jazz), single point drum mic for jazz...

There are tons of things where this mic shines. I own a lot of mics and the 422 and 426 are probably some of my favorites.

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Had a long talk with Austria yesterday..
Sad that they are axing all the single point stereo mics..with no replacements coming.

Harmon wants to please the basement warriors. God Bless em...
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the lawo ms matrix

here some pics

but they only do MS to XY

you can also use a TFK 689 for XY->MS and MS->XY

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more angle setup & patterns please.

i know, i know ... " just try yourself ! "
thats what i am doing. still would like to hear how you guys are setting it up for particular tasks

cool pics @ livingstone
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Had a long talk with Austria yesterday..
Sad that they are axing all the single point stereo mics..with no replacements coming.

Harmon wants to please the basement warriors. God Bless em...
Bless 'em indeed... I love single point stereo mics. I own 4 of them- a 422 and a 426, also a Royer SF24 and my other favorite- the Schoeps CMTS-301.

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Bless 'em indeed... I love single point stereo mics. I own 4 of them- a 422 and a 426, also a Royer SF24 and my other favorite- the Schoeps CMTS-301.

--Ben
I also own the 2 AKGs, probably going to get a usm69 as well. Thurreson is rumoured to have fabulous Stereo Microphones too,but I am having a bear of a time trying to figure out how to buy them. I had Peter Drefahl make me some custom cables and tweak 422. Wonderful results. I also love Stereo mics..my AKGs are definitely my favorites.

Opus 3 records uses Stereo mics exclusively, I think.
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Not as fond of the SM69. I like the tube version to a certain extent, but I'm really not so into the solid state one. Because of the rather bright nature of it and the heavy mid-range, I find that it works well in large air spaces, almost as a diffuse field mic. In front of an orchestra, though, your strings get quite edgy. That same quality, though, makes it a fantastic single-point drum mic.

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Not as fond of the SM69. I like the tube version to a certain extent, but I'm really not so into the solid state one. Because of the rather bright nature of it and the heavy mid-range, I find that it works well in large air spaces, almost as a diffuse field mic. In front of an orchestra, though, your strings get quite edgy. That same quality, though, makes it a fantastic single-point drum mic.

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Interesting. I finally got hold of the Thurresson guy, so well see what happens. Opus 3 uses them , so they must be decent..
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