favorite pre amp for kick drum and overheads?

[MX582]

im already sold on the api 3124 on toms and the neve 1073 on snare.
what are yalls favorite kick drum and overhead pres?

[RoundBadge]

Overheads:Loads of choices.. Daking,Wunder,Tonelux,V-76,TG,Aurora GTQ
Kick:Rock stuff.. usually start with a Neve 1073/84..usually gets the girth/punch and grit I like.
sometimes a bit of 10k..7.2 or even 4.8K for attack/ air..maybe a little 60hz for ooommf factor ..pretty standard..
or a lotta times a Fearn Eq or Pultec does it.
..Maybe a Daking or Tg Eq for sucking a little lower mid mud..
I dunno..they can all work fab .. whatever sounds good for the track at the time.
go rent/ borrow/ demo /steal some and find what rocks your personal tastes.thumbsup

[84K]

Recently, I have been using the Chandler Germanium pre for the kick drum mics. I usually use a Neve on the mic positioned outside of the drum and API on the inside mic.

For overheads I like API 525s or Neve 1272 depending on the sound of the song.

Mid-tempo Songs: I like the clean API

Hard Rock: want mean go Neve.

[Dot]

On drum OH's lately the LaChapell Audio 992 Extended Gain has been king. And that's on a lot of different kinds of music - from mellow ballads to balls-to-the-wall rock. Extremely versatile preamp.

http://www.lachapellaudio.com/page3.html

I've got some notes on using the 992 EG at
http://studioforums.com/eve/forums/a...9/m/5641074991

For kick we've been rediscovering the Sebatron vmp-2000.

[3rd world order]

OHs - stereo Fearn thru a JoeMeek SC2... love that sound. the meek has a magic lil spot in the release knob about 2.3 that i never move... tried a million times and keep coming back to that spot... use the attenuators on the Fearn for some squash.

[TanTan]

overheads: RCA BA-71A
bassdrum: 1073 \ 1064

[numrologst]

overheads:john hardy
kick: never or api

[Doublehelix]

OH: Telefunken v672
Kick: API 512C

[Mixing Louder]

OH - UA 4110

K - Chandler TG2

[84K]

Originally Posted by 3rd world order

OHs - stereo Fearn thru a JoeMeek SC2... love that sound. the meek has a magic lil spot in the release knob about 2.3 that i never move... tried a million times and keep coming back to that spot... use the attenuators on the Fearn for some squash.

I always have problems with the Fearn being to sensitive. It d\istorts so easily even with a pad. Do you ever have problems with that? Are you using a ribbon as the overhead mic?

[Tim Abraham]

I've been loving a pair of Germs on O/H and TG-2 for Kick In + Subkick (drive the TG-2 a bit on input and pull the output back to taste).

[karas]

OH UA 2-610
Kick OSA L3

[Jim Roberts]

Typically

Kick = API512c
OHs = ISA110s or API512c

[ericdevine]

A Great river pre with an AKG d112 on the kick is VERY nice!

[3rd world order]

Originally Posted by 84K

I always have problems with the Fearn being to sensitive. It d\istorts so easily even with a pad. Do you ever have problems with that? Are you using a ribbon as the overhead mic?

i've had problems with the Fearn distorting on vocals but then i back off the pop filter from the mic and the singer backs up and it's fine... but not on OHs... and i only really got crazy with the OH squash when it was jazz and the drummer was using brushes... then it was pure magic...

Hmmm... maybe my drummers don't hit hard enough...

coles 4038s? I *wish*!

shitty 414s here...

[Jim Williams]

I'm pretty picky about the low end tightness of a detuned kick, (I love 30 hz to move me). Same goes with cymbals, I hate distortion on them. It's like fingers across a chalkboard to me. I love to hear every hit on a ride to sound different with all the bell like harmonics intact.

To achieve this I use the Audio Upgrades High Speed preamps, so I'm biased.

Jim Williams
Audio Upgrades

[Fletcher]

Kik is always a TAB-funkenwerks V-78M and overheads are always a Thermionic Culture 'Earlybird 2'... its almost like a religion.

[I Lurk]

whatever sounds good and fits my choice of

1) drummer
2) the sound I'm looking for 'hey, maybe I don't need a mic pre for the kik, maybe I need only one mike for the whole bloody kit)
2) drum kit (yeah, 24' gretch is not 18' yamaha)
3) room (well, for the front of the kit mic of course )
5) mic choice (what do we have here, D112, D12, M88, Beta 52, D25 ?)
6) what I need for the rest of the band (I guess you gotta save the best one for the singer, right ???)

Then, and then only, I'm starting to wonder what I should use for the kik as preamp. And if I don't get the sound I want, I steal the singer pre, **** him, he's going to redo his tracks anyway.

You gotta love this place for that kind of question. Keep on the good work.


regards

[drundall]

Originally Posted by 84K

I usually use a Neve on the mic positioned outside of the drum and API on the inside mic.

Funny, I usually do the opposite. Cool though.

[drundall]

Originally Posted by numrologst

overheads:john hardy
kick: neve or api

My setup exactly. Interesting that we share the same idea.

[brownmouse]

Well, I haven't tried everything (or even close), but my favorite overheads to date were through a D.W. Fearn VT-2 and a Great River MP-2NV/EQ-2NV combo on Kik.

[pristineb]

1073 for me all the way on both! I'm a NEVE snob for drums. Everything just comes out so colorful and punchy. It's the EQ.... 60hz on kick and 110hz on OH makes for a big drum sound IMHO. Lots of other options though.

[S75]

Originally Posted by 3rd world order

OHs - stereo Fearn thru a JoeMeek SC2... love that sound. the meek has a magic lil spot in the release knob about 2.3 that i never move... tried a million times and keep coming back to that spot... use the attenuators on the Fearn for some squash.

Just curious about the setting that you use for overhead with SC2. Thank you

[Deuce 225]

Overheads - NPNG into Royer SF12
Kick - 1073 or API 3124

[Rednose]

Not a big fan of the 512c on Kick.
My personal favs from what I've tried are:
The A-designs P1 and the Juggernaut.
I also like a Neve 1081 and the Amek 9801, but don't have those in my studio anymore.

[drumrec.com]

Kick: API 3124 (drive preamp with pad)

OH: My stereo Neve 33115 (smooth & nice)

/H

[lynyrd]

kick SCA A-12 or N-72
oh Langevin AM 401

[StereoAtLast]

Like someone said way earlier, 1272s for overheads have been pretty kickass for me, for kick I dig the OSA MP1-L3, really fat and nice :]

[threshhold]

I've been loving the great river on the kick drum. It has a huge bottom end but also enough mid / high detail to cut through a mix. I almost always choose it over a 512c in shootouts. For overheads check out the Sage Electronics SE-1 pre. I have been using these for overheads and they sound wonderfull, very fast transient response, nice and open and quite neutral. Plus they are hand made and very well priced.

[stevesmithfan]

Kick, Daking
Overheads, Purple Audio BIZ. The Biz is quite bright and lovely for Overheads, IMO.