ixnys-- this isn't a contest

Fletcher · 25th November 2003

Bro, you've put up half a dozen threads about which is "the best" for specific applications... the answer to your query? There are at least 10, and in many cases more than 10 units that are all "best" in each and every application.

What will be "best" for one engineer may be "worst" for another, and "OK" for another, and "shitty" for another, or an "it depends" for yet another.

There are no 'bests'... there are things we find aestheticly pleasing in an application, but all of these judgements are juxtaposed by the other hardware and tones that were applied in the other applications that comprise a piece of music.

This shit is entirely interrelated, and your questions are impossible to answer.

As a pimp I could steer you towards some excellent hardware that woud serve the additional purpose of putting food on the family's table... or you could dive in and try a bunch of this stuff and make up your own mind on what is best for your applications.

It's all very "engineer/project" specific.

Best of luck with the search... just realize, there are no rules.

chrisso · 25th November 2003

Yeah.

And do you need a different topic for each drum?

Dot · 25th November 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by chrisso

And do you need a different topic for each drum?

HAHA!!!!!

Hey, we haven't even gotten to the cymbals yet.

alphajerk · 25th November 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by Dot
HAHA!!!!!

Hey, we haven't even gotten to the cymbals yet.

or stands. lugnuts?

and i only use a drill key to tune drums.

Jules · 25th November 2003

Who you calling Lugnuts?

Bruce Keen · 25th November 2003

Thank you so much Mr Fletcher.
I was thinking a few hours ago how these "best" posts really undermine the great spirit of this forum. Let's try and keep the level of discussion a bit higher than this.
No harm intended.

cheers
Bruce Keen

CV7 · 25th November 2003

dfegad "The Best"

CV7 · 25th November 2003

Now, whats the Best Pre for Guitars?

Unknown soldier · 25th November 2003

shit, I can get better results out of my tascam portastudio's mic pre's than any of you can with all your over-rated expensive gear. Also, my old radio shack tape recorder with the built in mic is the super duper bestest preamp for heavy metal guitars. Doesn't work well with female vocals, though.fuuck

MIKEHARRIS · 25th November 2003

i wanna know whats the best guitar for my pre??

Dot · 25th November 2003

Which pre is the best for the E string on my guitar?
Which pre is the best for the A string on my guitar?
Which pre is the best for the D string on my guitar?
Which pre is the best for the G string on my guitar?
Which pre is the best for the B string on my guitar?
Which pre is the best for the E string on my guitar?

Jason Poulin · 25th November 2003

Dot,

That's all fine and dandy wise guy but...

I'm tuned to open D min.

somebody please help!

grudge

Jason

jbuntz · 25th November 2003

If you are tuned to open D major, use the Vintech X73, if you are tuned to D minor use the X73i.

C.Lambrechts · 25th November 2003

There realy are times when Fletcher is 'the BEST'. Nothing wrong with asking questions Ixnys and some of your threads have interesting views in them for sure. but Fletcher has a point when he says that one simply cannot answer things like 'the BEST'.

There is no such thing .... hell I think Protools is 'the BEST' but lots of people dfegad on it.

'the BEST' is what works for you and what at the end of the day get's it done.

Now go on with your never ending quest .... read / post / observe / learn / ask about gear .... and at the end form your own opinion based on what YOU think ... not what others tell you to think. That's what these forums are all about ..... and maybe most importantly ... share your own experiences / opinions on gear with us so we can do the same.

And if you feel realy bad about this thread .... just be a slut a buy some good looking piece of gear just for the fun of it ... and come back and tell us about it to make us jealous ... hell .... it's the hollidays coming up ....

CV7 · 25th November 2003

Fletcher Rules!

ixnys · 25th November 2003

Alright guys, sorry for all the "best" posts. I know there is no best, I've said in replies to some other posts that it is sometimes just easier to say that. I was getting annoyed always having my salesclerk reccomend to me what was good and now after finding this forum, it's helped me to reseach a lot more of what is out there. Right now I'm researching and gathering information about pre's based upon suggestions from this forum. I've done a lot of reseach on this forum to see what mic pre's are getting good reputations. For example, I don't own any nevish type of gear and it seems that a pre like the Great River MP2-NV has always been suggested when someone is looking for a great preamp. Although I did create so many threads for different parts of my drum kit, it was just so I could get more focused replies and see what pre's were being suggested a lot.

So of course there is no best and each piece of gear has its purpose, but I'm not gonna go out and buy right now 18 preamps. As I said, I was looking for at least 13 so I'm trying to find a collection of 13 preamps that will work well with the genre I record in and can be interchangeable between instruments and the rest of the kit to give me a nice pallete of sounds. So even though the posts may be a little irritating (I apologize), they really have been helping me. My biggest mistake was putting "BEST PRE" in the title.

But at least now I will have a better knowledge of what preamps are out there and which ones I should take home and compare.

Teacher · 25th November 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by CV7
Fletcher Rules!

he would if he started giving gearslut/psw discounts....

Fletcher · 26th November 2003

... but Teacher... I discount damn near everything you post bro...

Teacher · 26th November 2003

lol....cute....

it was worth a try fellas!

toledo3 · 26th November 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletcher
... but Teacher... I discount damn near everything you post bro...

Hilarious!

jwh1192 · 26th November 2003

seriously,

which is the best forum for finding the best forum to find the best way to stop all this best posts ...

please put in your order of best to worse, from 1 to 10 or using odd numbers for best and even for worse ...

limit choices to under to 194 as that is the limit of most field mice in the arctic circle where this makes most (or should i say best) sense ...

peace john

was that the best or not???

David Herbert · 28th November 2003

In defence of Ixnys, at least it wasn't a "Best Preamp that will make me Sound Like A Pro for Under $50". Still, other than the Great River, which seems like a solid decision, what are you thinking about buying? make us drool! David

cally · 28th November 2003

use the worst.. that way you have to work harder to be the best

25th November 2003	#1
Fletcher member no 666 Joined: Jun 2002 Location: Durham, NC Posts: 10,108 Thread Starter	ixnys-- this isn't a contest Bro, you've put up half a dozen threads about which is "the best" for specific applications... the answer to your query? There are at least 10, and in many cases more than 10 units that are all "best" in each and every application. What will be "best" for one engineer may be "worst" for another, and "OK" for another, and "shitty" for another, or an "it depends" for yet another. There are no 'bests'... there are things we find aestheticly pleasing in an application, but all of these judgements are juxtaposed by the other hardware and tones that were applied in the other applications that comprise a piece of music. This shit is entirely interrelated, and your questions are impossible to answer. As a pimp I could steer you towards some excellent hardware that woud serve the additional purpose of putting food on the family's table... or you could dive in and try a bunch of this stuff and make up your own mind on what is best for your applications. It's all very "engineer/project" specific. Best of luck with the search... just realize, there are no rules. __________________ CN Fletcher Professional Affiliations: R/E/P Professional Recording Engineer and Producer forums - serious hobbyists welcome SoundPure.com mwagener wrote on Sat, 11 September 2004 14:33 We are selling emotions, there are no emotions in a grid Roscoe Ambel once said: Pro-Tools is to audio what fluorescent is to light

25th November 2003	#11
Dot Lives for gear Joined: Nov 2002 Location: on the beach in warm, sunny SC Posts: 872	Which pre is the best for the E string on my guitar? Which pre is the best for the A string on my guitar? Which pre is the best for the D string on my guitar? Which pre is the best for the G string on my guitar? Which pre is the best for the B string on my guitar? Which pre is the best for the E string on my guitar? __________________ Dan Richards Yackin' about gear and recording techniques at http://studioforums.com

25th November 2003	#12
Jason Poulin Lives for gear Joined: Sep 2003 Location: Sudbury, On. Canada Posts: 1,780	Dot, That's all fine and dandy wise guy but... I'm tuned to open D min. somebody please help! grudge Jason __________________ If it don't sound like a record... don't press record

25th November 2003	#14
C.Lambrechts Lives for gear Joined: May 2002 Location: Ans (Liege) Belgium Posts: 3,286	There realy are times when Fletcher is 'the BEST'. Nothing wrong with asking questions Ixnys and some of your threads have interesting views in them for sure. but Fletcher has a point when he says that one simply cannot answer things like 'the BEST'. There is no such thing .... hell I think Protools is 'the BEST' but lots of people dfegad on it. 'the BEST' is what works for you and what at the end of the day get's it done. Now go on with your never ending quest .... read / post / observe / learn / ask about gear .... and at the end form your own opinion based on what YOU think ... not what others tell you to think. That's what these forums are all about ..... and maybe most importantly ... share your own experiences / opinions on gear with us so we can do the same. And if you feel realy bad about this thread .... just be a slut a buy some good looking piece of gear just for the fun of it ... and come back and tell us about it to make us jealous ... hell .... it's the hollidays coming up .... __________________ Chris Lambrechts

28th November 2003	#22
David Herbert Lives for gear Joined: Sep 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 556	In defence of Ixnys, at least it wasn't a "Best Preamp that will make me Sound Like A Pro for Under $50". Still, other than the Great River, which seems like a solid decision, what are you thinking about buying? make us drool! David __________________ My band: CRAvery.com

25th November 2003	#2
chrisso Gear Guru Joined: Oct 2002 Location: Oz Posts: 16,852	Yeah. And do you need a different topic for each drum?

25th November 2003	#5
Jules Gearslutz.com admin Joined: Apr 2002 Location: A Yank in London, UK Posts: 17,805 1 Review written	Who you calling Lugnuts?

25th November 2003	#6
Bruce Keen Gear maniac Joined: Dec 2002 Location: Paris France Posts: 229	Thank you so much Mr Fletcher. I was thinking a few hours ago how these "best" posts really undermine the great spirit of this forum. Let's try and keep the level of discussion a bit higher than this. No harm intended. cheers Bruce Keen

25th November 2003	#7
CV7 Gear maniac Joined: Nov 2003 Location: Los Angeles, Ca. Posts: 213	dfegad "The Best"

25th November 2003	#9
Unknown soldier Lives for gear Joined: Mar 2003 Location: solar system Posts: 887	shit, I can get better results out of my tascam portastudio's mic pre's than any of you can with all your over-rated expensive gear. Also, my old radio shack tape recorder with the built in mic is the super duper bestest preamp for heavy metal guitars. Doesn't work well with female vocals, though.fuuck

25th November 2003	#10
MIKEHARRIS Lives for gear Joined: Jul 2002 Location: MIAMI FLA Posts: 1,685	i wanna know whats the best guitar for my pre??

25th November 2003	#13
jbuntz Lives for gear Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,716	If you are tuned to open D major, use the Vintech X73, if you are tuned to D minor use the X73i.

25th November 2003	#16
ixnys Gear addict Joined: Jul 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 324	Alright guys, sorry for all the "best" posts. I know there is no best, I've said in replies to some other posts that it is sometimes just easier to say that. I was getting annoyed always having my salesclerk reccomend to me what was good and now after finding this forum, it's helped me to reseach a lot more of what is out there. Right now I'm researching and gathering information about pre's based upon suggestions from this forum. I've done a lot of reseach on this forum to see what mic pre's are getting good reputations. For example, I don't own any nevish type of gear and it seems that a pre like the Great River MP2-NV has always been suggested when someone is looking for a great preamp. Although I did create so many threads for different parts of my drum kit, it was just so I could get more focused replies and see what pre's were being suggested a lot. So of course there is no best and each piece of gear has its purpose, but I'm not gonna go out and buy right now 18 preamps. As I said, I was looking for at least 13 so I'm trying to find a collection of 13 preamps that will work well with the genre I record in and can be interchangeable between instruments and the rest of the kit to give me a nice pallete of sounds. So even though the posts may be a little irritating (I apologize), they really have been helping me. My biggest mistake was putting "BEST PRE" in the title. But at least now I will have a better knowledge of what preamps are out there and which ones I should take home and compare.

26th November 2003	#18
Fletcher member no 666 Joined: Jun 2002 Location: Durham, NC Posts: 10,108 Thread Starter	... but Teacher... I discount damn near everything you post bro...

26th November 2003	#19
Teacher Lives for gear Joined: Sep 2002 Location: NY Posts: 1,913	lol....cute.... it was worth a try fellas!

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