U47 Pattern Microphone on Drums

[RoundBadge]

I use real 47's for the kit all the time ..Great stuff.
Never record without at least one in the setup
Front of kit 2 to 6 feet.
Front of kick[ sometimes in tunnel]
single overhead'
single over snare plus eqiudistant[2&1/2 stickLengtn] 2nd over right shoulder
spaced pair overheads
room mono
stereo spaced room pair
low behind drummer..
up a stone chimney..
inside an empty leslie cab
ETC,ETC...

[soupking]

Cool, cuz I've got a Peluso 47Le and a Soundelux e47c I'm itching to try out with my v72 rack.

Thanks RoundBadge,
-m

[RoundBadge]

Originally Posted by soupking

Cool, cuz I've got a Peluso 47Le and a Soundelux e47c I'm itching to try out with my v72 rack.

Thanks RoundBadge,
-m

Good micsthumbsup I just scored a Wunder CM-7 as well
Great..lot's of possibilities there..try messing with hitting comps for room crush,etc..
use one as a 'Wild mic"[anything goes]:
put one of the mics in a really weird place....garbage can..empty bass cab,under a counter,fireplace,chimney,hallway..bathrroom,bathtub..down/up a stairwell[usually gets way more interesting with a lotta compression]..then blend back into the whole drum mix

Your in very good shape..Go crazy/have fun

[Fletcher]

Originally Posted by soupking

Hi everybody,

I was wondering if anybody had tried using a U47 pattern mic on drums before?

I use both patterns, omni and cardioid on every mic that is not in figure of 8... what's your point?

I'll give you a hint... using a 47 is no magic bullet for getting a drum sound... a great drummer and a good set of drums in a good sounding room is a magic bullet for getting great drum sounds but a U-47 copy, clone, look alike, act alike, wannabee, could be seen to be like from the chrome in the photo ain't the fvckin' secret. Can be a help if you have the other magic bullet recipes [drummer, drums, room] in order but it can't do magic.

[RoundBadge]

Originally Posted by Fletcher

I use both patterns, omni and cardioid on every mic that is not in figure of 8... what's your point?

I'll give you a hint... using a 47 is no magic bullet for getting a drum sound... a great drummer and a good set of drums in a good sounding room is a magic bullet for getting great drum sounds but a U-47 copy, clone, look alike, act alike, wannabee, could be seen to be like from the chrome in the photo ain't the fvckin' secret. Can be a help if you have the other magic bullet recipes [drummer, drums, room] in order but it can't do magic.

Well There ya go ..the great Fletcher has spoken

[C/G]

For an idea, listen to Talk Talk's album "Laughing Stock". Drums were tracked with a single U47. Of course, the talented Phil Brown recorded it and Talk Talk was an amazing band performing in a more than likely amazing studio.

[RoundBadge]

Originally Posted by Colin Gaucher

For an idea, listen to Talk Talk's album "Laughing Stock". Drums were tracked with a single U47. Of course, the talented Phil Brown recorded it and Talk Talk was an amazing band performing in a more than likely amazing studio.

Cool record ..
no idea he used one mic on th kit..love the ambience..nice room.

[C/G]

Originally Posted by RoundBadge

Cool record ..
no idea he used one mic on th kit..love the ambience..nice room.

I read that info in those TapeOp journals they were printing from Phil Brown's book, which I think has never come out.
I read about them moving the kit around on a wheeled riser until they found the right spot, then moved the mic around to best capture the drum kit. Pretty amazing sounding album and one of my all time favourites.

[RoundBadge]

Originally Posted by Colin Gaucher

I read that info in those TapeOp journals they were printing from Phil Brown's book, which I think has never come out.
I read about them moving the kit around on a wheeled riser until they found the right spot, then moved the mic around to best capture the drum kit. Pretty amazing sounding album and one of my all time favourites.

yeah..i remember reading those articles..I'd love to see the book come out sometime

[thejook]

I like the 67 on drums WAY better.

Behind the drummer's right ear. The sh*t.

[AdamLazlo]

When I had a U47 longbody it was THE mono (omni) room mic I'd use. I had a very long chamber where the U47 always sat... perfect every time... even if the drummer was "lame". The room sounded great thru that mic.

I'd also have close mics to mix in, of which - if the drummer was awful - would become processed to all hell and be an attack as opposed to the main drive.

Now, I use a pair of Neumann Gefell CMV563's (M55K caps) for a better binaural-mix "smear/room" drum sound.

-- Adam Lazlo

[soupking]

I have other mics, it's just that I'm trying to cover the drums with 7-8 tracks, which is ample amount, but I have to think about the options available concerning channels.

47 patterned mics being large and condenser (and what I have currently) cover a good deal of ground. For the most part they seem to be a nice option to overheads versus ribbons or pencil mics. Either that or a way to maybe more than one tom with one channel.