Nashville's answer to Tchad Blake?

writethis · 14th November 2003

I'm not offering up a nomination, I'm asking for yours. Blake's engineering work that best applies here is that done with Sheryl Crow and Maria McKee.

Think both tracking and mixing.

Yes, I know this is a ridiculous question.

And yes, I'm serious.

Thanks in advance.

michael

Hobbyist · 14th November 2003

I can't think of anyone that's quite as vibey... No one really has time that much time to experiment. The very best projects might have a day a song of tracking.
Having said that...

My first thought would be Richard Dodd. Tom Petty, George Harrison, Green Day, Sheryl Crow are a few....

Brad Blackwood · 14th November 2003

Though not the same vibe, Shane Wilson is one of the best...

Dave Martin · 14th November 2003

Ray Kennedy has done some pretty 'vibey' records...

marcuspo · 14th November 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by Brad Blackwood
Though not the same vibe, Shane Wilson is one of the best...

Shane Gets the best tones of anyone I know.

Mark

writethis · 14th November 2003

Cool. Thanks for the help guys. Very much appreciated.

michael

mitgong · 14th November 2003

What about Malcom Burn?

Greg Heimbecker · 14th November 2003

Roger Moutenot, Robin Eaton/Brad Jones (they've sure got a vibey studio), Ken Latchney/Adrian Belew, Ray Kennedy... Hell, maybe Nashvegas ain't so bad after awwllll.

markv · 15th November 2003

David Leonard - Tchad Blake use to be his assistant (quite a while ago).
David moved from Nashville a few years ago, but still works a lot in Nashville, mostly at East Iris I believe.

Anyway, David Leonard is one amazing engineer.

doug_hti · 15th November 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by markv
David Leonard - Tchad Blake use to be his assistant (quite a while ago).
David moved from Nashville a few years ago, but still works a lot in Nashville, mostly at East Iris I believe.

Anyway, David Leonard is one amazing engineer.

Yes, David is great. One of the nicest and humble guys, and is a legend of an engineer. East Iris has been his favorite place for years to my knowledge.

shikawkee · 15th November 2003

Frankly, there are a lot of great engineers in Nashville but I have yet to meet a 'Tchad Blake'-type yet. It sure ain't Ray Kennedy....

writethis · 16th November 2003

Yeah, some great ears represented on this thread, some cool vibe, but Blake has such a specific gift. Though IMHO he finds fresh ways to apply it every project. Had Suzanne Vega's Objects of Desire playing in the background last night with some people over, so I wasn't really paying close attention, but even listening casually you can just hear that he has such a different take both on individual sounds and on the way they combine, balance and work together. Such a master of juxtaposition.

There may be guys in town who could do something in this direction, but maybe nobody gives them the chance. Or is Tchad truly a one-of-a-kind?

I'm familiar with most guys mentioned in this thread, but I'm not aware of who Shane has worked with. Guess it's time to do a little digging.

Thanks again for the perspectives guys.

michael

Jay Kahrs · 18th November 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by writethis

There may be guys in town who could do something in this direction, but maybe nobody gives them the chance. Or is Tchad truly a one-of-a-kind?

There are a lot of vibey AE's out there and it's not too hard to fine them. Finding the right one is a totally different thing. Personally I'd love to know how Tchad gets that amazing low end happening. I've tried and all I get is mud & boom.

shikawkee · 18th November 2003

My take on Tchad is that he's a solid engineer with varied experience who also understands and appreciates the indie aesthetic. Also I find, like some other of the 'new wave' of AE's he's willing to take chances and try some untraditional audio landscapes and techniques. Maybe this is what is called 'vibey'.
My experience is that there are quite a few great engineers in Nashville and beyond who are capable of this given an opportunity. The rest is style and personality.

I do have a few ideas how he gets that low end though....

tommyd · 18th November 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by shikawkee
My take on Tchad is that he's a solid engineer with varied experience who also understands and appreciates the indie aesthetic. Also I find, like some other of the 'new wave' of AE's he's willing to take chances and try some untraditional audio landscapes and techniques. Maybe this is what is called 'vibey'.
My experience is that there are quite a few great engineers in Nashville and beyond who are capable of this given an opportunity. The rest is style and personality.

I do have a few ideas how he gets that low end though....

...........care to share?
Tommy

shikawkee · 18th November 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by tommyd
...........care to share?
Tommy

You mean about the low end ?
That's what they hire *me* for !

bloodstone · 18th November 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by shikawkee
You mean about the low end ?
That's what they hire *me* for !

I think the low end on Sheryl Crow sounds like a flabby ass.

shikawkee · 18th November 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by bloodstone
I think the low end on Sheryl Crow sounds like a flabby ass.

Is that the first one or one of the ones she produced ?
I kinda' dug the records she did. I also like Bottrill's work too.
Two different flavors, both good and for different reasons IMO.

Hobbyist · 18th November 2003

Husky Huskulds
http://www.eightbitaudio.com/ worked for him for a while... you could always bring him in.... very similar vibe.

Jay Kahrs · 19th November 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by shikawkee
My take on Tchad is that he's a solid engineer with varied experience who also understands and appreciates the indie aesthetic. Also I find, like some other of the 'new wave' of AE's he's willing to take chances and try some untraditional audio landscapes and techniques. Maybe this is what is called 'vibey'.

Depending on who you talk to, 'vibey' is anything that doesn't sound 'standard'. Tchads work is anything but standard and I love it for that. I love the work he did on Soul Coughings El Oso and Pearl Jams Binaural.

bloodstone · 19th November 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by shikawkee
Is that the first one or one of the ones she produced ?
I kinda' dug the records she did. I also like Bottrill's work too.
Two different flavors, both good and for different reasons IMO.

I believe you are correct that she produced it (not sure if it was her first effort). I also love that record, it's just I feel the low end is way out of control to the point of distorting (woofers wobbling) on many of the cuts.

shikawkee · 22nd November 2003

I'll tell you what...you want a vibey mix in Nashville ? You might wanna' consider giving Bob Olhsson a shot. He just helped me re-do some mixes and I am truly humbled. They are bar far the 'vibey-est' mixes of any project I've ever worked on. Maybe my head was too much up my butt since I had recorded every note so far but Bob took the project in a wholly original and unique direction that I can't imagine I would have accomplished on my own. Square biz. The real deal. Thanks Bob !

14th November 2003	#1
writethis Gear nut Joined: Jan 2003 Location: nashville Posts: 124 Thread Starter	Nashville's answer to Tchad Blake? I'm not offering up a nomination, I'm asking for yours. Blake's engineering work that best applies here is that done with Sheryl Crow and Maria McKee. Think both tracking and mixing. Yes, I know this is a ridiculous question. And yes, I'm serious. Thanks in advance. michael

14th November 2003	#2
Hobbyist Gear maniac Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 163	I can't think of anyone that's quite as vibey... No one really has time that much time to experiment. The very best projects might have a day a song of tracking. Having said that... My first thought would be Richard Dodd. Tom Petty, George Harrison, Green Day, Sheryl Crow are a few.... __________________ hobs

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shikawkee Lives for gear Joined: Oct 2003 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 1,010	Frankly, there are a lot of great engineers in Nashville but I have yet to meet a 'Tchad Blake'-type yet. It sure ain't Ray Kennedy.... __________________ "Lend me some sugar, I am your neighbor"- Andre 3000

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Greg Heimbecker Gear addict Joined: Jun 2002 Location: western edge of the big cornfield Posts: 405	Roger Moutenot, Robin Eaton/Brad Jones (they've sure got a vibey studio), Ken Latchney/Adrian Belew, Ray Kennedy... Hell, maybe Nashvegas ain't so bad after awwllll.

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writethis Gear nut Joined: Jan 2003 Location: nashville Posts: 124 Thread Starter	Yeah, some great ears represented on this thread, some cool vibe, but Blake has such a specific gift. Though IMHO he finds fresh ways to apply it every project. Had Suzanne Vega's Objects of Desire playing in the background last night with some people over, so I wasn't really paying close attention, but even listening casually you can just hear that he has such a different take both on individual sounds and on the way they combine, balance and work together. Such a master of juxtaposition. There may be guys in town who could do something in this direction, but maybe nobody gives them the chance. Or is Tchad truly a one-of-a-kind? I'm familiar with most guys mentioned in this thread, but I'm not aware of who Shane has worked with. Guess it's time to do a little digging. Thanks again for the perspectives guys. michael

18th November 2003	#14
shikawkee Lives for gear Joined: Oct 2003 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 1,010	My take on Tchad is that he's a solid engineer with varied experience who also understands and appreciates the indie aesthetic. Also I find, like some other of the 'new wave' of AE's he's willing to take chances and try some untraditional audio landscapes and techniques. Maybe this is what is called 'vibey'. My experience is that there are quite a few great engineers in Nashville and beyond who are capable of this given an opportunity. The rest is style and personality. I do have a few ideas how he gets that low end though....

22nd November 2003	#22
shikawkee Lives for gear Joined: Oct 2003 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 1,010	I'll tell you what...you want a vibey mix in Nashville ? You might wanna' consider giving Bob Olhsson a shot. He just helped me re-do some mixes and I am truly humbled. They are bar far the 'vibey-est' mixes of any project I've ever worked on. Maybe my head was too much up my butt since I had recorded every note so far but Bob took the project in a wholly original and unique direction that I can't imagine I would have accomplished on my own. Square biz. The real deal. Thanks Bob !