pultec settings- 2mix

[J-Deb]

anybody here with favorite eqp-1a settings for the stereo buss?.......or do find
yourselves arriving at similar settings repeatedly?............

any and all opinions would be helpful.....

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[Fletcher]

How can you have a favorite setting on an equalizer unless you have something that needs EQ? Maybe I'm just old but I've always been of the opinion that any EQ that is done to mixed product should be done by a mastering engineer... and the only mastering engineer I know that uses EQP-1A's is Howie Weinberg over at Masterdisk in NYC... you might want to call him and ask him his favorite setting(s).

[davidwilson]

I have read that one of the Lord-Alge brothers and maybe both use Pultecs on the mix buss to add a little low end that has been taken out from the compressor SSL/ Focusrite 2db gain reduction apparently.

Another thought is if your mix is lacking a little top end and don't want to EQ individual instruments you could dial in some top end on the Pultec.

[J-Deb]

as revered as the pultecs are.... i would've thought that there would be more opinions / experiences to be shared on the subject of the eqp-1a and the stereo buss.......


come on........anybody????

[thethrillfactor]

Originally Posted by J-Deb

as revered as the pultecs are.... i would've thought that there would be more opinions / experiences to be shared on the subject of the eqp-1a and the stereo buss.......


come on........anybody????

Opinions?

First of all you have to have (2) EQP-1A's in incredible shape which most studios don't(most studios don't even have one).

Second you have to be a "EQ on the mixbuss guy" which is an argument that could go either way.


Lastly they became really popular for guys who are the "Neve 33609 on the mixbuss guys" because of the small shrinkage on the bass and hi's if the 33609 is not maintained properly.


Usually its a little boost in the lows and a slight boost in the hi's.

(Can i get anymore generic?)

The Focusrite Red 3 has a slight hi mid push & if you are not careful the bass can rock the comp(better to key it with an EQ), so running it through a pair of Pultecs can take the edge off slightly and "round out" the sound.

On the SSL mixbuss i've gone either way at times mostly in the not category.

But i am not an EQ on the mixbuss guy anyway. These days if I ever use EQ on the mixbuss is if i am mixing a hip hop mix tape which is really a combination of mixing and mastering so basically you are doing everything.

[Stitch333]

Originally Posted by thethrillfactor

But i am not an EQ on the mixbuss guy anyway. These days if I ever use EQ on the mixbuss is if i am mixing a hip hop mix tape which is really a combination of mixing and mastering so basically you are doing everything.

and then maybe something like a GML 8200 or an Oram EQ2

just my .02$

[J-Deb]

".....which is really a combination of mixing and mastering so basically you are doing everything." -TheThrillfacor



Not all together unlike mixing demos in nashville...... and this is where my question is coming from.


thanx for the replies.

[Jan Folkson]

Originally Posted by Fletcher

How can you have a favorite setting on an equalizer unless you have something that needs EQ?

I usually like it set to 7 unless it's got mullards. If that's the case I set it to 9 thumbsup

[thethrillfactor]

Originally Posted by J-Deb

".....which is really a combination of mixing and mastering so basically you are doing everything." -TheThrillfacor



Not all together unlike mixing demos in nashville...... and this is where my question is coming from.


thanx for the replies.

Yeah or most independent artists that have no budget for mastering and need their songs to go straight to myspace.

My chain is basically the same chain i use when mastering:

D/A--->Focusrite Blue 230(keyed by either a pair of Neve filters or a pair of API 560's)-->Mastering Vari-Mu--->Massive Passive EQ(Hi pass filter is the best around)--->Great River EQ(for a little air but i will probably replace it in the future with an Ibis or something similar. Plus i like this EQ too much when mixing acoustic guitars)---> A/D--->L2( -0.1 and either 0.2 or 0.1 output.)--->Pow-r Dither 3---> CD or MP3.

Usually this will give me something useable.

The trick though is getting the vocals to interact with the music tracks well and getting them to sound like one whole piece.

What i am looking for currently though is a processor that will give me a glowy/hazy stage but with clarity for instrumental/music beds that people sing or rap over.

Most of these tracks are MP3's and i would love something that i could use to thicken them up and demphasize the damage that the MP3 conversion does.

Haven't heard anything i like in a while.

Most of the modern boxes put an emphasis on the openess and clarity which onto itself is great but when working with MP3's you need almost the opposite.


If i had a pair of Pultecs they would probably find their way into the mix somewhere.

[thethrillfactor]

Originally Posted by Stitch333

and then maybe something like a GML 8200 or an Oram EQ2

just my .02$

You know i love the GML 8200 for lots of things and the mixbuss was never one of them.


Since i got rid of mine i haven't once come into a situation where i thought "man it be great to have the GML 8200 around right now for this track".

[rara114]

Its all program dependant. Every song will be different and may or may not NEED eq.

I just turn the knob until it sounds about right (appropriate) for the song

my $0.02

[Lindell]

Originally Posted by thethrillfactor

My chain is basically the same chain i use when mastering:

D/A--->Focusrite Blue 230(keyed by either a pair of Neve filters or a pair of API 560's)-->Mastering Vari-Mu--->Massive Passive EQ(Hi pass filter is the best around)--->Great River EQ(for a little air but i will probably replace it in the future with an Ibis or something similar. Plus i like this EQ too much when mixing acoustic guitars)---> A/D--->L2( -0.1 and either 0.2 or 0.1 output.)--->Pow-r Dither 3---> MP3.

Thrill,

Lovely chain

that ends up

on MP3

[thethrillfactor]

Originally Posted by Lindell

Thrill,

Lovely chain

that ends up

on MP3

Well you know Lindell...who ever can produce the best sounding MP3's or CD mixtapes in the game these days wins!!!!


And the myspace market is a big market!!!


Most MP3's on there sound shitty so the best you make them sound the more "heads up to..." you'll get.

[RoundBadge]

Originally Posted by J-Deb

anybody here with favorite eqp-1a settings for the stereo buss?.......or do find
yourselves arriving at similar settings repeatedly?............

any and all opinions would be helpful.....

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No special tweaks..sometimes just a little bump on either end 60/100 hz 10/12 k for the vibe/mojo
Using the Fearn eqs a lot lately too..great for a slightly more modern sheen ..
the mid cut although broad, is super cool.

[whitepapagold]

Originally Posted by thethrillfactor

You know i love the GML 8200 for lots of things and the mixbuss was never one of them.


Since i got rid of mine i haven't once come into a situation where i thought "man it be great to have the GML 8200 around right now for this track".

Hey Thrill,
I have my 8200 in line but not active and think it improves the stereo image and adds something intangible- is this psycho-acoustics or is there something really happening? Any idea? Ive never been sure why I like it- but I do! Ive always wondered whats going on?
(not to hijack your thread J-Deb, but Ive always wanted a "second opinion"!)

[thethrillfactor]

Originally Posted by whitepapagold

Hey Thrill,
I have my 8200 in line but not active and think it improves the stereo image and adds something intangible- is this psycho-acoustics or is there something really happening? Any idea? Ive never been sure why I like it- but I do! Ive always wondered whats going on?
(not to hijack your thread J-Deb, but Ive always wanted a "second opinion"!)

I always had the impression of the opposite.

The 8200 would "close in" the sound and liked it better with it off the mixbuss.

[RoundBadge]

Originally Posted by thethrillfactor

My chain is basically the same chain i use when mastering:

Great River EQ(for a little air but i will probably replace it in the future with an Ibis or something similar.

I seem to be doing more in house mastering these days.

What else have you checked out Thrill?
i'm looking to add more options.
The Forsell is a ways off ..
The hi's on the forsell modded NSEQ sounded very sweet to me..
but the Inward EQ/Ibis seems to cover the transparent thing pretty damn well.

Sorry for the OT.

[thethrillfactor]

Originally Posted by RoundBadge

I seem to be doing more in house mastering these days.

What else have you checked out Thrill?
i'm looking to add more options.
The Forsell is a ways off ..
The hi's on the forsell modded NSEQ sounded very sweet to me..
but the Inward EQ/Ibis seems to cover the transparent thing pretty damn well.

Sorry for the OT.

I haven't listened to anything new in a while since now adays i focus more on gear that's not necessarily known(the lower priced Ebay stuff no one pays attention to).

(And don't ask me if i've found anything interesting because these little treasures i am keeping under my hat to keep the prices down).

I can tell you i am not looking for anything clean in an EQ or anything cleam in particular.

Actually i want the opposite processors that are open sounding but change the sound in a pleasant way.

I had a NSEQ a while back and i liked it but just not enough at the time to keep it around.

Modified i can imagining sounding really good albeit really clean.

[RoundBadge]

Originally Posted by thethrillfactor

I can tell you i am not looking for anything clean in an EQ or anything cleam in particular.

Actually i want the opposite processors that are open sounding but change the sound in a pleasant way.

If thats the case..I suggest to keep your eyes on the Shadow Hills campthumbsup

[thethrillfactor]

Originally Posted by RoundBadge

If thats the case..I suggest to keep your eyes on the Shadow Hills campthumbsup

I think right now if i am going to keep my eyes on anything its my wallet!!!


The days of buying gear and changing stuff out like its going out of style are long gone.

I'll leave it to guys like you man.

[whitepapagold]

Originally Posted by thethrillfactor

I always had the impression of the opposite.

The 8200 would "close in" the sound and liked it better with it off the mixbuss.

Thanks for the response Thrill! At least it verifys Im hearing something!