Merits of Adam P33s?

[Dirty Halo]

With hindsight of the S2a and S3a, how well do the Adam P33 stack up?

I noted in one post Fletcher cited the Adam P22s as his favorites...love to know the reasoning there too.

Lastly, I hate to say this, I love the bottom end and loudness of H824s (although I wish it were more defined), but know I need to step up my monitors...I'd like to get that same feel but with true accuracy...so if I'm hearing that bass detail, it's really there, mids, highs and so on.

I'd say the H824 can be satisfying, but certainly not accurate by any means for translating mixes :(

Am I looking a the huge leap with Barefoots MM27 to get there or are ther other reasonably priced alternatives? Would Adam P33 get me there or not signifacantly better than H824... once you get to teh Adam S3a it's not too far to Barefoots...help!

Need some advice here, please.

-Andrews

[Fletcher]

I don't believe I ever said nor inferred that P-22's were my favorite. I use S3-A's when I use ADAM's. Lately I've been auditioning a few other brands of speakers to determine if there is something better for the way I work... in the meanwhile, the P-33's are like the S3-A's with smaller amplifiers and a different woofer material but overall the sound in comparable [though they don't go as long for as long a period of time... if you listen at human volumes like in the 80-90db range they should be fine].

[Sui_City]

my mileage is somewhat different to Fletcher's.

I found the P33s to be horribly scooped when compared to th S3A's. (in the same room, flipping between the 2)

just my 2 lira

[Dirty Halo]

Originally Posted by Fletcher

I don't believe I ever said nor inferred that P-22's were my favorite. I use S3-A's when I use ADAM's. Lately I've been auditioning a few other brands of speakers to determine if there is something better for the way I work... in the meanwhile, the P-33's are like the S3-A's with smaller amplifiers and a different woofer material but overall the sound in comparable [though they don't go as long for as long a period of time... if you listen at human volumes like in the 80-90db range they should be fine].

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You said ADAM P-22As in a "Best Nearfield" thread...just curious if that was still true and if so what you liked about them.

And if you sill like those, how do yo like the P33as?

Or, did you go to the S3as for a particular reason?


Thanks,

-Andrews

[WEAPON_X]

i have no idea what the best monitor in the world is, but i have a pretty strong idea that the p33a work for me very very well and i couldn t be happier. i decided to go with the p33a instead of s2.5a, because the 2.5a gave me the impression of too much power and overpowering my room. yet, the p33a are quite loud too, but just at the verge of beeing too loud, and thus they seem better suited for me.

of course, they cant be perfect , and no monitor ever will. but you need to learn your monitors anyway, and as long as the monitors go along a certain qualtity mark it comes down to personal choice and taste.

since i do altenative rock, the low range down to 35hz is sufficient for me and i do not need to use a sub, mainly because i chop my mixes between 35 and 40 regulary. if i was doing rap, r&b and the like with heavy subbass , it would be a different story.

the mentioned scooped mids are there (slightly), but for me do not pose a problem, because i feel it helps me to bring the mid frequencies more together an be more carefully in this region.

the p33a work best and give best results (like any monitors, but i think it is really astoishing with the p33a what you can squeeze out) when you pay considerable attention to god DA conversion (i use benchmark) and really good cabeling (i sill experiment with mogami, zaolla, klotz, vovox and klotz).

obivously the placement and the room is highly important, but anyone putting down the cash for good monitors knows that already.

[Autocrat]

I used the P33As for some time and liked them for their mid and upper mid detail, but I couldn't get the low end to work for my room. Placement is really important with these. I have broadband traps all over my room (11x17x10). Maybe a sub would've helped, but that was another $1000. They were plenty loud too.

I've also used Mackies HR824s and true, they do have that nice low end bump, but difficult to mix on (at least to translate).

I currently use Gens 8040s and it's been a nice middle ground, although I do miss some of the Adam detail.

[Fletcher]

Originally Posted by Dirty Halo

You said ADAM P-22As in a "Best Nearfield" thread...just curious if that was still true and if so what you liked about them.

And if you sill like those, how do yo like the P33as?

Or, did you go to the S3as for a particular reason?

I have always been on S3-A's because of their extended bass response in comparison to S2-A's or P-22A's... the other comment could have been "within X budget" for all I know.

At the moment there are a pair of Focal's on the meter bridge of my desk. I'm not working on "product" at the moment so I have a chance to check out other speakers.

I don't know if I'm sold on them... and I will be checking out some other monitors [I think, if people who said they wanted me to try their speakers actually send them over].

At least for the moment, if I were mixing "product" the S3-A's would go back on top of the meter bridge of my desk. I can't say if that will still be true 3 months from now but as of this moment they are my current benchmark for nearfield monitors.

It should also be said that I actually do the majority of my mixing ["product"] off the main monitors in my room which are a set of rather modified UREI 813's with a McIntosh MC-2500 power amp with an Apex EQ to equalize some of the anomolies between drivers.

[synthetic]

I a/bed the P33 with the S2A and the S2A won, no contest. A blonde CH less bass with the S2A, but I could "hear the box" with the P33 where the S2A is a bigger, deeper sound.

A/B the two. You'll know by the end of the song.

[The Beatsmith]

Sigh. Just as i'd decided on the P33A's. You guys go drop this thread.

I don't have the ability to try them out... so am going on reviews, net gossip, and hearsay

I mix (and also make) hiphop, i don't want a woofer, and thought the p33a's would give me a decent amount of bass. I am not bass-crazy, i just don't want the monitor to be lacking in any range. I don't know what to do. I can't afford S3A's or even S2.5A's. It's just too much.

Help :(

[The Beatsmith]

C'mon lads

[The Mime]

I really think the P33's will be fine for you Beats.

[The Beatsmith]

Yah - i called up the adam distributor in the UK and had a chat with them, they said the same...

Cheers mimo

[jayman]

I had P33As for about 6 months. Room is 20x14. My mixes on them were the worst ever. Events and Mackies before that. I had the same experience as another user here. I couldn't ever get the low end right. Maybe I needed a sub too. Now I'm on JBL LSR6328 with a matching sub. I need to hear the bass to get it right. And now, I'm hearing the bass.

j