Is there ANY reverb plug ins out there for mastering??
I for the life of me can never find any reverb plug ins that sound that great to me. I've got some got stuff too Waves Diamond Bundle, Sony stuff etc,,,, I'd like to add reverb to the overall mix, so I can give the track a little more life and color. If you got any suggestions please let me know. Thanks
I for the life of me can never find any reverb plug ins that sound that great to me. I've got some got stuff too Waves Diamond Bundle, Sony stuff etc,,,, I'd like to add reverb to the overall mix, so I can give the track a little more life and color. If you got any suggestions please let me know. Thanks
Tried Altiverb?
If you don't love reverb plugs try playing speakers into real spaces and recording that. And please dont put verb on a whole mix, maybe unless it's a live record close-mic'd ... put it on tracks in the mix.
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Ozone3 has a mastering reverb and UAD-1 Dreamverb might work...
I've have very good results with the OZONE reverb, but you really have to watch overusing it. I also find that setting the filters to be very important as well, as the resoloutin is pretty hi and things can get pretty grainy really quick.
The simple switch to monitor just the reverb is priceless to me, even though I know you should listen to everything in context...
Why on earth would you put verb on the whole mix? I don't want verb on my bass guitar. I don't want verb on my kick drum. I don't want the same verb on my vocals and my guitar.
Every voice in the mix needs different levels, and different sounds for verb. For instance, on snare, I want a nice thick verb. I don't want a nice thick verb on high hats. I like a nice plate verb on my vocals, but that might not work all that well on an electric guitar.
Use reverb IN the mix, not ON the mix. Make your mix sound huge and wide, don't try to make a 2-mix nice and wide. You'll never be happy with it that way. Do it right the first time, don't spray windex on a piece of $#!t... It won't add any more color to it, or sparkle or whatever. It's still going to be a piece of $#!t.
Why on earth would you put verb on the whole mix? I don't want verb on my bass guitar. I don't want verb on my kick drum. I don't want the same verb on my vocals and my guitar.
Every voice in the mix needs different levels, and different sounds for verb. For instance, on snare, I want a nice thick verb. I don't want a nice thick verb on high hats. I like a nice plate verb on my vocals, but that might not work all that well on an electric guitar.
Use reverb IN the mix, not ON the mix. Make your mix sound huge and wide, don't try to make a 2-mix nice and wide. You'll never be happy with it that way. Do it right the first time, don't spray windex on a piece of $#!t... It won't add any more color to it, or sparkle or whatever. It's still going to be a piece of $#!t.
As Brian mentioned , there are occassions when a very subtle addition of high-end reverb, and I repeat, high-end reverb can give a slight sheen to a dry mix.
It really depends on the material. And it has to be done very, very carefully. But it is not an unreasonable question.
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I for the life of me can never find any reverb plug ins that sound that great to me.
If your DAW support external plugins, try inserting a Lexicon 300 via AES/EBU. I once had the opportunity to do that with Cubase SX and a MOTU896. Brilliant!
Unfortunately I had to give back the 300.
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seriously. I did vinyl mastering on a scully lathe for two years and NEVER touched reverb.
tutt
Oh well that explains it then.
Maybe if you would have used a Neumann lathe for 3 years things would have been different?
Sorry but citing the fact that you cut on a scully for 2 (!?) years and then flipping someone the bird?
What's THAT all about?
Jeez loueez, he asked a question and maybe it'll work for him.
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Disclaimer: I've never used reverb on an entire track but then again, I've never gone for that effect either.
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Sorry but citing the fact that you cut on a scully for 2 (!?) years and then flipping someone the bird?
What's THAT all about?
I thought that was a 'no-no' sign, not the bird... If it IS supposed to be used for flippin someone off, sorry to everyone I've it used with!!! I didn't mean it!!!
I thought that was a 'no-no' sign, not the bird... If it IS supposed to be used for flippin someone off, sorry to everyone I've it used with!!! I didn't mean it!!!
tutt you all.
Somehow, that doesn't really work....
Moderators?
We need some clarification here!
I've always believed that that 'smilie' was in fact a 'frownin' bird flipper'.
I would quite happily stand corrected if it's not!
I thought that was a 'no-no' sign, not the bird... If it IS supposed to be used for flippin someone off, sorry to everyone I've it used with!!! I didn't mean it!!!
tutt you all.
Somehow, that doesn't really work....
The GIF is called nono - my guess is that it's NOT the bird.....
I for the life of me can never find any reverb plug ins that sound that great to me. I've got some got stuff too Waves Diamond Bundle, Sony stuff etc,,,, I'd like to add reverb to the overall mix, so I can give the track a little more life and color. If you got any suggestions please let me know. Thanks
There's nothing that I've found in standard verbs for standard plugins that comes close to what you need for good. Your only choice is convolution or a real good external verb.
The Diamond bundle does not include the IR-1, does it? The IR-1 is pretty decent, it's a good "medium cost" choice and beats the pants off any non-convolution plugin verb.
As is Altiverb.
I hear the Trillium space is very good as a verb.
But my preferences are the TC 6000 or as a plugin, the VSS3, which is available with the POWERCOrE. The Powercore has the power to run TC's second-best reverb algorithm and I highly recommend it.
The weak link of the convolution verbs in general is early reflections. You can get much better stereo depth with the VSS3 which is definitely WORTH it. After that, you have to move to a high-quality external verb. The Powercore is a good compromise between internal/external as it works like a plugin but has the power of a dedicated DSP.
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For your purposes you will require room, plate and hall reverbs. You should only be applying small amounts of verb to the stereo track (less than 5% in most cases). Some of the Bricasti IRs will do if you do not have access to a Bricasti. The reverbs on Ozone 5 are fine for mastering purposes.
While I seldomly strap reverb across the mix, I have found that on occasion it can help almost as an EQ tool in very small amounts. My favorite for this? Variety Of Sound Epicverb. It's handy because it's got the mid/side blend. A little plate on the sides is nice sometimes.
Adding reverb at the vinyl cut was a common practise although they called it 'adding echo'. Try comparing the LP of Toto's "Africa" to the CD reissue (which does not have added echo) - the difference is chalk and cheese. I'd be interested to know what reverbs were used: probably EMT plates.
Although I don't have a real recording of this on hand an only my laptop with me for listening but isn't this whole damn mix going through a high-passed slapback?
When I first started mixing, I would put rev on the whole mix. I'm not saying people who do are beginners. The thing ive learned is often time when rules are broken in music it is sometimes cool. I was talking to a guy the other day who said he would put a touch of the emt plate on his master.
As Brian mentioned , there are occassions when a very subtle addition of high-end reverb, and I repeat, high-end reverb can give a slight sheen to a dry mix.
It really depends on the material. And it has to be done very, very carefully. But it is not an unreasonable question.
Indeed . I worked at WB Studios in the early 80's and recall that Van Halen's 1984 album was mixed without any reverb, but some was added in the mastering particularly on the song "Jump" which worked great.
EMT 140 plate as I recall.
And I would suggest Altiverb for reverb. Depending on the sample you use, you can add just about any kind of space to a mix or during a mix.........
Aahhh such a rookie mistake! lol. Yeah don't ever put verb on a whole mix whatever you do! It can seriously smear the balance and destroy all your hard work you did in the mix! Just thought I'd add my opinion on this. :-)