Is there ANY reverb plug ins out there for mastering??

[Reag1502]

I for the life of me can never find any reverb plug ins that sound that great to me. I've got some got stuff too Waves Diamond Bundle, Sony stuff etc,,,, I'd like to add reverb to the overall mix, so I can give the track a little more life and color. If you got any suggestions please let me know. Thanks

[Johnkenn]

Ozone3 has a mastering reverb and UAD-1 Dreamverb might work...

[ISedlacek]

I am really curious about the new V9 Samplitude Variverb. The rumours sound VERY promising ...

[lucey]

Originally Posted by Reag1502

I for the life of me can never find any reverb plug ins that sound that great to me. I've got some got stuff too Waves Diamond Bundle, Sony stuff etc,,,, I'd like to add reverb to the overall mix, so I can give the track a little more life and color. If you got any suggestions please let me know. Thanks

Tried Altiverb?

If you don't love reverb plugs try playing speakers into real spaces and recording that. And please dont put verb on a whole mix, maybe unless it's a live record close-mic'd ... put it on tracks in the mix.

[brochington]

Originally Posted by Johnkenn

Ozone3 has a mastering reverb and UAD-1 Dreamverb might work...

I've have very good results with the OZONE reverb, but you really have to watch overusing it. I also find that setting the filters to be very important as well, as the resoloutin is pretty hi and things can get pretty grainy really quick.

The simple switch to monitor just the reverb is priceless to me, even though I know you should listen to everything in context...

[macmod]

Originally Posted by lucey

Tried Altiverb?

And please dont put verb on a whole mix, maybe unless it's a live record close-mic'd ... put it on tracks in the mix.

please explain Brian, thanks
Macmod

[Thumper]

Why on earth would you put verb on the whole mix? I don't want verb on my bass guitar. I don't want verb on my kick drum. I don't want the same verb on my vocals and my guitar.

Every voice in the mix needs different levels, and different sounds for verb. For instance, on snare, I want a nice thick verb. I don't want a nice thick verb on high hats. I like a nice plate verb on my vocals, but that might not work all that well on an electric guitar.

Use reverb IN the mix, not ON the mix. Make your mix sound huge and wide, don't try to make a 2-mix nice and wide. You'll never be happy with it that way. Do it right the first time, don't spray windex on a piece of $#!t... It won't add any more color to it, or sparkle or whatever. It's still going to be a piece of $#!t.

[StoneinaPond]

Originally Posted by Thumper

Why on earth would you put verb on the whole mix? I don't want verb on my bass guitar. I don't want verb on my kick drum. I don't want the same verb on my vocals and my guitar.

Every voice in the mix needs different levels, and different sounds for verb. For instance, on snare, I want a nice thick verb. I don't want a nice thick verb on high hats. I like a nice plate verb on my vocals, but that might not work all that well on an electric guitar.

Use reverb IN the mix, not ON the mix. Make your mix sound huge and wide, don't try to make a 2-mix nice and wide. You'll never be happy with it that way. Do it right the first time, don't spray windex on a piece of $#!t... It won't add any more color to it, or sparkle or whatever. It's still going to be a piece of $#!t.

As Brian mentioned , there are occassions when a very subtle addition of high-end reverb, and I repeat, high-end reverb can give a slight sheen to a dry mix.

It really depends on the material. And it has to be done very, very carefully. But it is not an unreasonable question.

[Stitch333]

Originally Posted by lucey

Tried Altiverb?

please dont put verb on a whole mix, maybe unless it's a live record close-mic'd ... put it on tracks in the mix.

seriously. I did vinyl mastering on a scully lathe for two years and NEVER touched reverb.
tutt

[Thumper]

Kurt, Brian said nothing about using it subtly. He said put it on tracks in the mix. Which is what I said to do.

I can't think of any situation where I would put verb on a finished mix.

[andychamp]

Originally Posted by Reag1502

I for the life of me can never find any reverb plug ins that sound that great to me.

If your DAW support external plugins, try inserting a Lexicon 300 via AES/EBU. I once had the opportunity to do that with Cubase SX and a MOTU896. Brilliant!
Unfortunately I had to give back the 300.

[Ol' Betsey]

Originally Posted by Stitch333

seriously. I did vinyl mastering on a scully lathe for two years and NEVER touched reverb.
tutt

Oh well that explains it then.

Maybe if you would have used a Neumann lathe for 3 years things would have been different?

Sorry but citing the fact that you cut on a scully for 2 (!?) years and then flipping someone the bird?

What's THAT all about?

Jeez loueez, he asked a question and maybe it'll work for him.

Ain't no rules in Rock N Roll...

Disclaimer: I've never used reverb on an entire track but then again, I've never gone for that effect either.

R.

[Thumper]

Originally Posted by Ol' Betsey

Sorry but citing the fact that you cut on a scully for 2 (!?) years and then flipping someone the bird?

What's THAT all about?

I thought that was a 'no-no' sign, not the bird... If it IS supposed to be used for flippin someone off, sorry to everyone I've it used with!!! I didn't mean it!!!

tutt you all.

Somehow, that doesn't really work....

[Ol' Betsey]

Originally Posted by Thumper

I thought that was a 'no-no' sign, not the bird... If it IS supposed to be used for flippin someone off, sorry to everyone I've it used with!!! I didn't mean it!!!

tutt you all.

Somehow, that doesn't really work....

Moderators?

We need some clarification here!

I've always believed that that 'smilie' was in fact a 'frownin' bird flipper'.

I would quite happily stand corrected if it's not!

R.

[Dan]

tutt tutt tutt tutt tutt tutt tutt tutt tutt tutt

just wondered what that would look like. Oh, and please don't ever put reverb on any of my mixes. I've given M.E.s the bird for less.

[NL5]

Originally Posted by Thumper

I thought that was a 'no-no' sign, not the bird... If it IS supposed to be used for flippin someone off, sorry to everyone I've it used with!!! I didn't mean it!!!

tutt you all.

Somehow, that doesn't really work....

The GIF is called nono - my guess is that it's NOT the bird.....

[Ol' Betsey]

Originally Posted by NL5

The GIF is called nono - my guess is that it's NOT the bird.....

Ahhhh... I always thought it was "The Bird".

I mean, it kinda looks like he's got his middle finger up but then again, who waves "The Bird" back and forth like that, huh?



Duh...

R.

[bob katz]

Originally Posted by Reag1502

I for the life of me can never find any reverb plug ins that sound that great to me. I've got some got stuff too Waves Diamond Bundle, Sony stuff etc,,,, I'd like to add reverb to the overall mix, so I can give the track a little more life and color. If you got any suggestions please let me know. Thanks

There's nothing that I've found in standard verbs for standard plugins that comes close to what you need for good. Your only choice is convolution or a real good external verb.

The Diamond bundle does not include the IR-1, does it? The IR-1 is pretty decent, it's a good "medium cost" choice and beats the pants off any non-convolution plugin verb.

As is Altiverb.

I hear the Trillium space is very good as a verb.

But my preferences are the TC 6000 or as a plugin, the VSS3, which is available with the POWERCOrE. The Powercore has the power to run TC's second-best reverb algorithm and I highly recommend it.

The weak link of the convolution verbs in general is early reflections. You can get much better stereo depth with the VSS3 which is definitely WORTH it. After that, you have to move to a high-quality external verb. The Powercore is a good compromise between internal/external as it works like a plugin but has the power of a dedicated DSP.