what hardware is now redundant due to software emulations...

[ine-kpro...]

are there any pieces of hardware out there that you think is now redundant due to software or software emulations.

i think most of the budget eqs are redundant since most people are using eq plugins that emulate the more expensivier models.

as for compressor, i think even the cheaps ones are needed just for tracking.

[rufus13]

Emulation is fine, but they keep needing updates that have a cost. What if the company goes under? No more updates. Look at how Apple/Digidesign drive hardware sales with their rapid updates of software that leave 36 month old hardware in a "working, but unsupported" mode. Smaller developers wash in and out with that tide.

Real hardware with analog and digital I/O keeps being useful as systems progress. If the unit is MIDI-controllable, it will work with automation. If the maker goes under, the unit is still useful.

I don't object to "buying" plug-in's, but recognize the time/use limitations of software.

Cheers.

Karl Keefer
Portland Oregon

PS: None of my hardware is obsolete, especially the analog EQ and dynamic controllers. They do what they always have done, some better than new. My favorites come with full service documentation and should last longer than me, with repair.

Does paid-for software come with source-code? Mine doesn't.

[thesteve]

The only hardware that has been replaced for me is de-essers. Everything else softwarewise does not measure up, but I love both the Waves and Weiss de-essers and find that they are eisier to use and more transparent than the hardware units I've had expirience with.

[thethrillfactor]

Originally Posted by thesteve

The only hardware that has been replaced for me is de-essers. Everything else softwarewise does not measure up, but I love both the Waves and Weiss de-essers and find that they are eisier to use and more transparent than the hardware units I've had expirience with.

The Desser is a good one.

I think another would be something like Autotune and a notch filter.

[apdv1]

Here's a controversial one 'Tape machines'

[Dirty Halo]

And I just don't use a typewriter much since Microsoft Word came around...

...other than that nothing touches great hardward


-Andrews

DIRY HALO www.dirtyhalo.om

P.S. Ok, serioulsy, while my 480L R-880 and AMS 16 are the go tos...ther are occasion that Altiverb does what those don't... and a few of teh weired fx like lofi, vinyle stuff and those type things.

personally, I like plugs that don't try to be something else, but build ontheir own strength and offer something new for our arsenal..I could care less for the "sounds like a (fil in teh blank) A tools agreat, jsut find the right job.

Hey. I've got this crap Zoom 1201 or something and it's great for certian things!

Heck, I just used the first gneration Digitech Harmoniz (which couldn't cound MOR articifical for a very cool vocal efect...makes you think twice about throwing that stuff out!

[Dirty Halo]

I recently did this vocal efect where I ran it through that old Zoom 1201 box and accidentally starting scolling through patches creating this unheard-of stutter effect. I then did it in-time to the music, tracked it and put it into phrases... NOT your typical edit stutter

The labl was like "How the hell did you do THAT!"

I just smiled and said, "Some really cool new boutique piece of gear


-Andrews

DIRTY HALO www.dirtyhalo.com

[HDGuru]

Drummers?


meh.. couldnt resist.

[Sqye]

gimpsuits?







man, it'd take you a CRAZY amount of hardware to emulate the antares filter plug,

but hey, whatever floats your boat - it's your time.

[Sui_City]

typewriters

[max cooper]

Newspapers

[joeq]

the post office

[Andrew Kinsey]

EMU Sound modules like the MoPhat, Proteus, Orbit etc.. have now become discontinued since Creative took over the company, they are now only available in software form.

Also hardware samplers are pretty much obsolete with the exception of the Akai MPC.

[Tibbon]

It's hard to find a few of these synths in great condition. Take an ARP 2600 or a Moog Modular. Yes, the original would be 'better' if it's been repaired and in spec, but just the average one... probably isn't all that much better.

I sold my JP8000 as i felt that for most of it's strong uses... well the synths in logic do just as good of a job.

Asides from that... the stuff that I have... hasn't been replaced well.

[robmix]

Originally Posted by thethrillfactor

The Desser is a good one.

yuck, I just can't stand software de-esser's. Give me the DBX 902 everytime.

[Sqye]

oh, and the library - where i never was, anyhow

so, not REALLY an improvement

[Ricky]

Originally Posted by ine-kpro...

are there any pieces of hardware out there that you think is now redundant due to software or software emulations.

i think most of the budget eqs are redundant since most people are using eq plugins that emulate the more expensivier models.

as for compressor, i think even the cheaps ones are needed just for tracking.

Can a blowup doll replace your girlfriend? Whats better, virtual sex or an emulation of the real thing.

[heathen]

HAHAHA, Ricky said it best.

[tuRnitUpsuM]

On the flip side Ricky ..

the blowup doll wouldn't care if you spent an extra 2k for that shiny new mic-preamplifier that you just had to have... AND you'd still be getting some ! yeah but on the couch you say? i think not...

cheers

[AShah]

Originally Posted by thesteve

The only hardware that has been replaced for me is de-essers. Everything else softwarewise does not measure up, but I love both the Waves and Weiss de-essers and find that they are eisier to use and more transparent than the hardware units I've had expirience with.

I have yet to find a de-esser (plugin or otherwise) that works better on vocals than the hardware unit by SPL.

~AJ

[AShah]

Originally Posted by robmix

yuck, I just can't stand software de-esser's. Give me the DBX 902 everytime.

I think the SPL hardware unit kills the dbx.

~AJ

[gsilbers]

almost all except mic preamps, mics and monitors.


so ,

tape machines,

EQ
compressors

sound modules

synths

samplers

consoles/mixers


-musicians

[vernier]

Funny that a De-esser is the only one, and I doubt it would work like my 'ole Orban which might be broken cause it sounds funky-cool.

[orange]

Originally Posted by Andrew Kinsey

Also hardware samplers are pretty much obsolete with the exception of the Akai MPC.

I still think you can get something out of an AKAI s950 that you can't get via a software synth.

si

[stevep]

what hardware is now redundant due to software emulations...

Click track............

[stevep]

Originally Posted by gsilbers

almost all except mic preamps, mics and monitors.


so ,

tape machines,

EQ
compressors

sound modules

synths

samplers

consoles/mixers


-musicians

Such a sad post............. You should have added a Recording Studio

[Dog_Chao_Chao]

Hum....samplers. Im not using my akais5000 much since. MAybe I should...
How about auto tune? And L2 ultramaximizer? I never had a hardware version though.
I guess the most usefull plugin are eqs. For a small correction would you set your best hardware eq or would you pull a plugin?

[SiliconAudioLab]

Originally Posted by robmix

yuck, I just can't stand software de-esser's. Give me the DBX 902 everytime.

Another nail right on the head!!!

I got so sick of the phase issues and odd frequency games going on that my head would rotate like that dog on RCA label just to get rid of some silibant. It was just plain stupid.

I went out and bougt a pair of 902's and that was the end of THAT!!!