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Old 29th August 2006   #1
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Which A-Design 500 Series

I can't get any A-Design modules for my API Lunch Box, so I can't AB them, so I can only go by what you guys are using. I want some thing that I can use mainly for vox and acoustic guitars. Some of you guys have suggested the A-Design modules and I'm sold, but which one do i get. P-1 or Blue?????????

This is a list of my pres that I use:

Chandler LTD-1
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War help me out here please!!!

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I bought 2 API 512, 1 P1, 1 Gama and 1 Biz in a 10 space API rack!
I'm waiting anxiously for it to arrive
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Taking everything you already have into account, I would go with the P1...
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Taking everything you already have into account, I would go with the P1...
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They all sound great (and look great too! ;-) I haven't played any guitar through mine in a while but this weekend I willl be dinking around. And for those concerned, no, I don't own 2 P-1's, that's a photo editing manipulation.
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Get the blue one
I agree, Hulk like blue one too!

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Ok thanks guys, but I'm still confused.

Is there a big difference between the P-1 and the Blue.

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Thankyou all for helping me.

I'm going for the Blue, after listing to War's shootout recording I reckon the Blue will fill my needs for now. I will most certainly get more of the A-Design pres later.
Thanks again Warren for your recordings.


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Glad we could help...that's why I spent the time. Like Avis...I try harder.

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lol... Peter, Warren's right... it's Avis www.wetryharder.com



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I knew that but I couldn't help myself

War knows I enjoy bustin his chops War, thank you for all the hard work in recording all those files.
The one question I had was .............who the hell was the drummer you used to do the tracking?

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Taking everything you already have into account, I would go with the P1...
I have to go with Tony on this one.

Of course, as most of you know, I'm a fan of all Peter's work.
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I have to go with Tony on this one.

Of course, as most of you know, I'm a fan of all Peter's work.
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That drummer is me, and if you don't like that you can get the Bozak!

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Easy Easy War!!!

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They're like Depends................always on your ass hey?

Great Job War!.....................no I really mean it!!!!

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Good job War
How far did you place the mics on the drums?

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I have a P-1 that I absolutely love on everything I have tried EXCEPT acoustic guitar. Awesome on snare, thumpin' on kick, lucious on vocals, bodacious on bass and near perfect on electric guitar. A sax player I had in last month went nuts over the sound of his horn thru the P-1 and ordered one for his modest home studio. The thing rocks, but not on acoustic. I keep trying it on acoustic guitar, wanting to like it but it just sounds flat and 2 demensional, no depth for me. I tried different guitars and different players, all no go. I have had better luck with my OSA mp-1 or API 312 but my current preferences above all of those are Pendulum Quartet or Avalon 737.

Oh yeah, I loved the P-1 with a 57 on the top of my leslie cab. About the only thing I have not tried it on yet is my Kawai Grand.

I do want another P-1 for stereo, but not for acoustic guitar. My 2 cents.
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I have a P-1 that I absolutely love on everything I have tried EXCEPT acoustic guitar. Awesome on snare, thumpin' on kick, lucious on vocals, bodacious on bass and near perfect on electric guitar. A sax player I had in last month went nuts over the sound of his horn thru the P-1 and ordered one for his modest home studio. The thing rocks, but not on acoustic. I keep trying it on acoustic guitar, wanting to like it but it just sounds flat and 2 demensional, no depth for me. I tried different guitars and different players, all no go. I have had better luck with my OSA mp-1 or API 312 but my current preferences above all of those are Pendulum Quartet or Avalon 737.

Oh yeah, I loved the P-1 with a 57 on the top of my leslie cab. About the only thing I have not tried it on yet is my Kawai Grand.

I do want another P-1 for stereo, but not for acoustic guitar. My 2 cents.
Hi Surf

Did you listen to WAR's listening session with the P-1 and the other EM pres? That's what helped me choose the Blue, but I'm still going to get the P-1 later. In fact I hope I'll get the lot in time.


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The reason I agreed with Tony on his suggestion, was based upon the variety of preamps the original poster already owns. I believe that of all the models A-Designs offered, he'd be best served with the P-1. This will provide a new flavor to his arsenal.

Of course, as soon as he gets it he will soon discover that he'll want them all!!!
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How far did you place the mics on the drums?

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Snare: Maybe 1.5" above the drum pointed across the head
Tom: Maybe 2.5" above the drum pointed across the head
Kick: Maybe 8" out from the beater angled slightly off axis
Overhead: Maybe 18" above my head pointed into the kit
Acoustic Guitar: Maybe 14" out pointed around the 14th fret
Elec Guitar: Maybe 3" out pointed slightly off axis

For anybody who doesn't know what we're talking about the original thread is here:

The A Designs Solid State Shootout (500 series + Pacifica)

Having spent time with the entire lineup again...I would pick the BLUE although the P1 would be a close second.

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I have a P-1 that I absolutely love on everything I have tried EXCEPT acoustic guitar. Awesome on snare, thumpin' on kick, lucious on vocals, bodacious on bass and near perfect on electric guitar. A sax player I had in last month went nuts over the sound of his horn thru the P-1 and ordered one for his modest home studio. The thing rocks, but not on acoustic. I keep trying it on acoustic guitar, wanting to like it but it just sounds flat and 2 demensional, no depth for me. I tried different guitars and different players, all no go. I have had better luck with my OSA mp-1 or API 312 but my current preferences above all of those are Pendulum Quartet or Avalon 737.

Oh yeah, I loved the P-1 with a 57 on the top of my leslie cab. About the only thing I have not tried it on yet is my Kawai Grand.

I do want another P-1 for stereo, but not for acoustic guitar. My 2 cents.
Hi Surfkat,

First, thank you for your purchase of the P-1.
Second, I don't know which mic you were using on the acoustic but you have a few options here.
If you have a good Tube mic.........I always suggest the Pearlman TM-1.........but try any Tube Mic and use the "Pad" switch on the P-1. You may find that the P-1 will produce a different sonic character............maybe even one that you like?

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I gotta say the P1 is almost always my 1st choice on acoustic guitars....but it takes some experimenting to find which mic to use with what guitar...

A dreadnaught requires (IMO) a different mic and positioning scheme than an Auditorium sized, classical, or whatnot. Try some SDCs like AT4041, C42, whatever...the P1 with a ribbon is to die for.... for the traditionalist sound, our Michael Joly modded Oktava 319 is almost perfect...several keeper tracks for some scoring work and a couple of country blues projects have been done this way...

and yes, a tube mic (ours is a Peluso 2247) with the P1 pad engaged is mighty powerful....

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another thanks to warren for the clips. i just decided that my next pair of 500's are going to be A-Designs. which one... i dunno yet.
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I ended up buying the P-1 and the EM Blue......now what.
I'm so hooked to fill my lunch box.

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I'm in the "which A-Designs" mode myself here. I've read such wonderful things about the whole line, how could I not get one. I have the API 10 space 500 rack so my initial instinct was to use the last couple of slots with the A-Designs pres, based on the user posts concerning those pres and my relatively new Pearlman TM1.

Mostly what I read about is the Pearlman and the Pacifica and from what I understand, the P1 is roughly the same so that is my primary focus. Incidently, the pres I use now are the 8 API 512b's that are in the rack so I'm looking for something not in that vein of pre. I haven't been overly thrilled with the vox chain (male baritone) of Pearlman -> API 512b -> Manley ELOP -> Apogee Rosetta -> Nuendo.

Oh, the choices we have. Maddening.
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