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Old 15th August 2006   #1
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i need a compressor to replace my smart c1

i like my c1, but i think it is a little bright for me and without a sidechain i am losing a bit of my low end. i have been tracking through it as well and am very happy with tracking results, but i think i need to look at selling it and getting a different flavor mix bus comp.
i do mainly r+b and hip hop production. i am definitely getting a pair of distressors for tracking so that will cover a lot of tracking duties.

some good candidates are 1968 me, portico 5043. any thoughts on what will work for me? i want big punch and not brittle sounding. i read the long thread gushing over the 5043, but i think that is from a rock perspective, which is not really me.

fellow slutz, please help!

and no i can't keep the c1 and buy a 3rd comp. i am already going crazy trying to make the distressor happen.

thanks!!
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i do mainly r+b and hip hop production.

api 2500 or a pair of dakings.


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I do a lot of R&B and HipHop and find the 1968 very good. I think the API 2500 would be good for that style too, but I couldn't get it to work for me. Loved the sound though. The Portico doesn't have a highpass does it?

Other than that, try the SSL G series compressor. Just my two cents. Good luck
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I do a lot of R&B and HipHop and find the 1968 very good. I think the API 2500 would be good for that style too, but I couldn't get it to work for me. Loved the sound though. The Portico doesn't have a highpass does it?

Other than that, try the SSL G series compressor. Just my two cents. Good luck
1968 seems like a good option in combo with a sidechain. the api 2500 has hi/low passs which would be very useful.

i think the portico is off of my list because of no sidechain, no hi pass and i also hate the inaccessable on off push button. i curse every time i have to reach behind my rack to turn on my portico pre.

bump, have you compared the 1968 to the c1 or c2?

also what wasn't working for you with the 2500?
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i like my c1, but i think it is a little bright for me and without a sidechain i am losing a bit of my low end. i have been tracking through it as well and am very happy with tracking results, but i think i need to look at selling it and getting a different flavor mix bus comp.
i do mainly r+b and hip hop production. i am definitely getting a pair of distressors for tracking so that will cover a lot of tracking duties.

some good candidates are 1968 me, portico 5043. any thoughts on what will work for me? i want big punch and not brittle sounding. i read the long thread gushing over the 5043, but i think that is from a rock perspective, which is not really me.

fellow slutz, please help!

and no i can't keep the c1 and buy a 3rd comp. i am already going crazy trying to make the distressor happen.

thanks!!
Are you mixing into the compressor or slapping it on later? If you're applying it later in the mix try starting out with it on and mixing into it
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Something doesn't sound right with your C1. It shouldn't sound bright and shouldn't be stripping much low end if set properly. Sounds like you might have a balanced/unbalanced problem. How are you connecting the C1 in your setup? The C1 is unbalanced FYI. Also, what settings are you using? I wouldn't reccommend much else for 2-bus work. I think the C1 and the old SSL G384 are about as good as you can get. If you don't like those, try no comp at all.
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Something doesn't sound right with your C1. It shouldn't sound bright and shouldn't be stripping much low end if set properly. Sounds like you might have a balanced/unbalanced problem. How are you connecting the C1 in your setup? The C1 is unbalanced FYI. Also, what settings are you using? I wouldn't reccommend much else for 2-bus work. I think the C1 and the old SSL G384 are about as good as you can get. If you don't like those, try no comp at all.
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i would be happy if you were correct about this. it it connected to my patchbay. trs 1/4" connections at the compressor, trs wired connection at bay. it is my understanding that this is correct as the ring simply does not come into play when inserted into the unbalanced socket on the c1. my patchbay snakes are all trs connectors, no unbalanced connectors just unbalanced equipment. do you think this is the problem, and if so why?

very little reduction, slower attack, 2:1 or 4:1, auto...on mix bus.

also to the previous poster, what was not working for you with the api? no filter on the portico, no sidechain and no way to turn it on without getting behind your rack with a flashlight. thinking the portico is not an option.
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I got Shadow Hills Mastering comp[#002] today
you want slammin' Fat and Buttery?

The discrete section kills my C-2

..It's sick

The only problem is the wait.[13 months for me and worth it]
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1968 seems like a good option in combo with a sidechain. the api 2500 has hi/low passs which would be very useful.

i think the portico is off of my list because of no sidechain, no hi pass and i also hate the inaccessable on off push button. i curse every time i have to reach behind my rack to turn on my portico pre.

bump, have you compared the 1968 to the c1 or c2?

also what wasn't working for you with the 2500?
I could "hear" the API a little too much. It was fine if I shaved off 1-2 db, but any more than that sounded "compressed". I couldn't justify paying THAT much for a mix comp that could ONLY shave off 1-2db. I can take of 5 db with the 1968 and I don't hear any negative artifacts.

Haven't ever tried the C1 or C2 though.
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I got Shadow Hills Mastering comp[#002] today
you want slammin' Fat and Buttery?

The discrete section kills my C-2

..It's sick

The only problem is the wait.[13 months for me and worth it]
Photos Pleeeeaaase!!
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I got Shadow Hills Mastering comp[#002] today
you want slammin' Fat and Buttery?

The discrete section kills my C-2

..It's sick

The only problem is the wait.[13 months for me and worth it]
Congrats Roundbadge!!! Give us a review of the thing! How much was it?
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yeah congrats. please let us know-hear-see?
all good things come to those who wait!

is the waiting time still a year btw?
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I got Shadow Hills Mastering comp[#002] today
you want slammin' Fat and Buttery?

The discrete section kills my C-2

..It's sick

The only problem is the wait.[13 months for me and worth it]
You were just dying to find an excuse to post that weren't you ?

This is worthy of it's own thread !! Let us know how she stands up against your other gear.

Congrats - I am very very jealous!!
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You were just dying to find an excuse to post that weren't you ?
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You were just dying to find an excuse to post that weren't you ?

This is worthy of it's own thread !! Let us know how she stands up against your other gear.

Congrats - I am very very jealous!!
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Sorry no hijack intended

I just wanted to slip it in..too see if anyone would notice..

Yes I'll start a new thread as soon as I can get my damn camera working

So far it sounds amazing thostike
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my patchbay snakes are all trs connectors, no unbalanced connectors just unbalanced equipment. do you think this is the problem, and if so why?
Well, I'm confused about your setup - but you should scrap the patchbay for the moment and go direct - check it out and make sure. Go in to balanced or unbalanced with the correct cable and if you can't you should put something in between.

troubleshooting 101 - isolate the problem and set everyting to its stock setting.
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Yes, scrap the patchbay for the moment. What is the C1 in between in your setup. Do you have a console??? Is it on insert sends and returns???? Are you coming out of the computer and back in???? Make sure you have the right cables. It makes all the difference in the world IMO. It can make you go from hating something to loving it and vice versa. If you are not sure about cabling issues, hire a tech to come wire your setup. You will thank me later.
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Well, I'm confused about your setup - but you should scrap the patchbay for the moment and go direct - check it out and make sure. Go in to balanced or unbalanced with the correct cable and if you can't you should put something in between.

troubleshooting 101 - isolate the problem and set everyting to its stock setting.
i believe my cabling is solid. my question is simply, is there a problem using balanced cables with the c1's unbalanced outputs. there should not be to the best of my knowledge. standard trs connections, no ground lifted.

i believe the unit sounds as it should. it is not harsh, just a little bright for the sound i am looking for. keep in mind i am talking about hip hop. lows are often extreme and this unit tends to take some of that punch out, which i believe most compressors will do without a sidechain or hp filter.
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