Buzz Elixir.....

[Isle of Weight]

Buzz Elixir, it's supposed to be clean and detailed. right?
Ok I'm trying to make a choice here hopefully you guys will help....
Right now I'm looking at the Elixer, DAV, Pendulum, and GML. I'll be buying two pres and I was originally thinking the DAV and the MDP-1....but I cant get the other two out of my mind for some reason. Clean and detailed with some what saturated lows (Elixer) sounds really interesting.

What do you guys think????
AA

[NathanEldred]

Originally Posted by Isle of Weight

Buzz Elixir, it's supposed to be clean and detailed. right?

Very detailed and extended bandwidth.


Natpub did a nice review here:

Buzz Elixir trials and applications

[grevan]

all I know is, choose wisely, Isle.........

[Isle of Weight]

Originally Posted by NathanEldred

Very detailed and extended bandwidth.


Natpub did a nice review here:

Buzz Elixir trials and applications

Thanks Nathan,
I hoped that I would get some comments from those who owned two or more of these pres. I read natpub's review already....
I've used the GML a long time ago and the quartet II (i think the pendulum is a definite!) but I'll be getting two stereo pres and I was looking for some comparisons to the elixir.
maybe it's to soon for comparisons?
any other weight ins???

How about you Nathan?

[Isle of Weight]

Originally Posted by grevan

all I know is, choose wisely, Isle.........

Ha !
I'm trying....I'll let you and Mr. E works know ASAP,
so you can get your third ready!!!!!stike stike stike

[Norm]

Hi, I ave both the DAV and the Buzz, Out of all our pre,s the Buzz is the most requested.

[Isle of Weight]

Originally Posted by Norm

Hi, I ave both the DAV and the Buzz, Out of all our pre,s the Buzz is the most requested.

thanks Norm

[E Works]

Originally Posted by Isle of Weight

Ha !
I'm trying....I'll let you and Mr. E works know ASAP,
so you can get your third ready!!!!!stike stike stike

I read that natpub review and it sounds pretty tempting! I'm interested to here more about it. This is my wallet getting abducted by the Gearlians!

[SoundEng1]

Originally Posted by E Works

This is my wallet getting abducted by the Gearlians!

Your in Big Trouble!! Hangin around here, especially with Isle! Hahaha!

[bsteeve@ozemail]

I've got a Buzz elixir at the moment, along with all the OSA pres in my 500 Serie Rack.
I really wanted a buzz pre as they got that very detailed, clean but sweet sound.
I had the chance to get the Buzz 2.2 pres and an Elixir so I could pick the one I wanted (thanks to Scott at GBG and Tim at Buzz for that opportunity).
Now, the difference between the 2. The 2.2 is really fast, detailed and give a very "exciting" type of sound. On vocal, you will hear everything all the way down to your throat... and beyond! Really nice on strings, piano, Ac guitar and OH.
The Elixir got the same quality to it but with a little bit more warmth, Nicer in the lows (the lundahl transformer being the reason for that) It also got a very good instrument input as well and 70dB of gain, which is great to run my ribbons. I general I find that pre more versatile than the 2.2
I love both pres but the elixir got the little extras that make the difference in my opinion!

[NathanEldred]

Originally Posted by bsteeve@ozemail

The Elixir got the same quality to it but with a little bit more warmth to it, Nicer in the lows (the lundahl transformer being the reason for that) I general I find that pre more versatile than the 2.2
I love both pres but the elixir got the little extras that make the difference in my opinion!

Did you have the MA2.2 (transformerless) or the MA2.2TX (with Sowter on the output)?

....the transformer option on the MA2.2TX gives more weight/color to the lows if desired (it's switchable, i.e. each channel has two seperate physical connections). Where (as you said) the Elixir comes standard with the Lundahl on the output.

Just to make the comparison a little more apples to apples.

[bsteeve@ozemail]

it was the MA2.2, so less coloration than the MX2.2, nevertheless, both pres are really nice! just love the extra 5dB gain and the instrument input on the elixir

[bsteeve@ozemail]

I know, I love the buzz stuff. I'm not the kind of guy who will rave about gear all day long, but I'm must say that so far, Buzz is the kind of brand that never disappoint, great and original design. Thanks Tim, you're the man!

[Graemeasia]

Hey Steeve - Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

Don't tell em! Two Elixers cost less than 1 MA 2.2.

It's good to hear feedback from the pro users out there - we also think the Elixer is very cool!

Scott - GBG Technology - Buzz Distributor Australia.

[Isle of Weight]

Originally Posted by Graemeasia

Hey Steeve - Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

Don't tell em! Two Elixers cost less than 1 MA 2.2.

It's good to hear feedback from the pro users out there - we also think the Elixer is very cool!

Scott - GBG Technology - Buzz Distributor Australia.

that's exactly what I was hoping hear...pro users who have heard this pre and/or possibly one of the others,
for feedback and comparisons.
thanks so much for your weight in's!
AA

[Snatchman]

Hey Nathan. How will the Exlir perform as an " only" pre? ( could you stack multible tracks and make a record without " mud"..?)...

[NathanEldred]

Originally Posted by Snatchman

Hey Nathan. How will the Exlir perform as an " only" pre? ( could you stack multible tracks and make a record without " mud"..?)...

Sure, I don't see why not...it's a very clear and open sounding preamp, with just a bit of 'hair' in the lows from the transformer. So if there is any mud, it's going to be from the source, not from the preamp.

[Aearth]

Originally Posted by Isle of Weight

that's exactly what I was hoping hear...pro users who have heard this pre and/or possibly one of the others,
for feedback and comparisons.
thanks so much for your weight in's!
AA

How's that for a good deal.
I just ordered my API lunch box (empty at the moment) but there's goina be a place for the Exlir's thats for sure. Just got the OSA's from Steve...thanks mate, see you tomorrow.

Nick

[studjo]

AAAAAAAAAAAATENTION:

if you buy the Buzz and the Pendulum pre you're in deep trouble:
I find myself fighting everyday which of both pres to use
NOT FUNNY AT ALL


I love Buzz - and the Pendulum is also another great pre - very good choice IMVHO


Jo

[TAVD]

Originally Posted by Aearth

How's that for a good deal.
I just ordered my API lunch box (empty at the moment) but there's goina be a place for the Exlir's thats for sure. Just got the OSA's from Steve...thanks mate, see you tomorrow.

Nick

I hope I'm wrong, but I suspect your OSA preamps will collect a nice protective layer of dust once you put the Elixir preamps in your lunchbox. They're pretty darn nice.

[NathanEldred]

Originally Posted by TAVD

I hope I'm wrong, but I suspect your OSA preamps will collect a nice protective layer of dust once you put the Elixir preamps in your lunchbox.

Considering the OSA's and Elixirs are extremely different (especially the OSA C, L, and L3) I doubt that's going to happen. It's like saying your Neve or API or Calrec is going to sit idle because there is another kick ass preamp in the rack that sounds completely different than those three. Strange logic, but maybe that's just the way I think (and engineer). These are all excellent pieces that provide a certain aesthetic of their own at a very high end level. Just my humble opinion.

[drastic]

Anybody out there get to put the Buzz Audio Elixir to work yet? If so, give us some feedback

[drastic]

I got my Elixir in the mail today. WOW!! I haven't tried it on much yet, just Bass DI and distorted guitar, it sounds awesome. Very detailed, and the quality of build is excellent. Can't wait to really put it to work this weekend

Matt

[Nu-tra]

Bringing back an old thread.

Will two elixers handle an entire mix out of a folcrom? Looking for a reasonably priced one for this very task.

[NathanEldred]

Originally Posted by Nu-tra

Bringing back an old thread.

Will two elixirs handle an entire mix out of a folcrom? Looking for a reasonably priced one for this very task.

Yes, it's a great choice IME. First the gain is on a detented switch in small steps, not a common feature on 500 series that I'm aware of (usually preamps are either fully variable only, or they have larger gain steps with a fully variable output). This is perfect for repeatability and setting L/R identically for your stereo outputs on the Folcrom. Realize the Elixir will be fast bandwidth and an articulate character without a huge amount of coloration (just a subtle amount in the low frequencies, but the highs are quite fast with the Lundahl on the output). So you'll be able to hear a lot of nuances and extension in the high and low frequencies from the multitrack through the Folcrom rather than a 'smoothing over' like a preamp intended to have a significant amount of coloration would have (i.e. Neve, Telefunken Tube, EMI, etc, etc). For me it's a good thing to have a more natural sounding console because my individual tracks are VERY colored. It rocks for tracking too, it's god on overheads (tom lows are very extended with no phase shift), acoustic guitar, kick, bass DI, and especially with ribbon mics because it's extremely quiet at it's highest gain of 70db.

[Nu-tra]

Thanks Nathan!

I will be looking into the elixer.

Anyone try a Jensen twin servo with a folcrom?

[edIT]

Can any Pendulum MDP-1A owners chime in on how the Elixir might differ from the MDP-1A. I own the Pendulum pre and love it. Sounds very similar to what has been described about the elixir but I'vebeen thinking of moving back to a lunchbox format. Anyone?

[pan60]

Originally Posted by Nu-tra

Bringing back an old thread.

Will two elixers handle an entire mix out of a folcrom? Looking for a reasonably priced one for this very task.

i would not not hesitate to use a pair of elixers for a full mix i a heart beat.
i had not been in the market for some new compressors at the time i reviewed elixer i had it would still be here.

[gm5k]

just tried my elixir w/ the pad in on acoustic...wooooowww...probably the best acoustic sound ive ever gotten

the elixir just sounds so ridiculously natural, detailed, and big...all 500 series sluts should have one of these!

[stevetgn]

Sorry to thread hi-jack but has anyone heard the new Buzz Potion FET comp yet?
I'm really interested that that puppy!