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29th January 2013
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Yamaha NS10's new tweeters, are they different?

Hi,
a week ago I received new tweeters for my NS10s, and was surprised to realised they are NOT the same part. The grill is curved, instead of parallel to the speakers front. I have the latest horizontal NS10's, btw.

Soundwise they are brighter, but similar in nature. Maybe they are brighter just because they're new.

Any idea?
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I've always thought they were the version 1 tweeters, the ones that people put toilet paper over back in the day.
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Yes the older ones are usually preferred.
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Sorry, the curved ones are the old ones, or the new ones?
I bought the replacement tweeters in thomann, germany, and even in their website the picture is different from what they sent me. I mean, if that's the new version of the tweeter, then fine. If it's the old one, I'd rather stick to the other one since it's what I'm used to.

If someone could clarify this for me, I'd be most thankful.
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Mine are flat. Don't know if they are the old or the new ones, but every NS10 I saw had a flat tweeter, as far as I remember. (I haven't really paid attention to that before, to be honest, but yours seem strange to me)
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It seems weird to me too. I've had 2 pairs and they were always flat. And every NS10 I've seen had flat ones.
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Sput, they are what I was referring to as version 1.
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The ORIGINAL NS10 tweeter was the curved top. This was also the tweeter that spawned to tissue paper over the tweet rage.

The update....the flat top, while similar, is slightly less bright, and not as robust.
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i am confused. how can you tell the difference?

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on the original the grill over the tweeter curves down to the front surface of the speaker. The newer tweets have grill which rises straight up from the speaker anout 3/8 if an inch and then right agles stright across the top.
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Ok, thanks buddies! That means I got the old ones, and I'm used to the new ones. Calling Thomann...
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Your speakers are NS10 Studio not the original NS10m.
The twitter they sent you is the original twitter, not the twitter that came with the NS10 Studio.

So in resume, you've got the wrong twitter.

AFAIK the Crossover is different in the NS10 Studio is different from the original model. Also as some pointed, the original was brighter, so Yamaha redesigned the twitter in the NS10 Studio to be less bright.

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Your speakers are NS10 Studio not the original NS10m.
The twitter they sent you is the original twitter, not the twitter that came with the NS10 Studio.

So in resume, you've got the wrong twitter.

AFAIK the Crossover is different in the NS10 Studio is different from the original model. Also as some pointed, the original was brighter, so Yamaha redesigned the twitter in the NS10 Studio to be less bright.

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This is dead on . People need to understand that the crossovers are different
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People need to understand that the crossovers are different
The twitter and the crossovers were different ....
The Yamaha NS10 Story

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NS10M: The original domestic hi-fi speaker designed for vertical orientation (its front panel logo reads correctly with the speaker mounted with tweeter above woofer). This is the speaker that was too bright for Bob Clearmountain, leading him to resort to tissue paper over the tweeters — although, of course, it had to be the right kind of tissue paper.

NS10M Studio: Some time after Yamaha got wind of the NS10M's popularity as a nearfield monitor (and around nine years after the original product launch) a version badged 'NS10M Studio' was produced. This version was designed for horizontal orientation (the logo and connection panel text were turned through 90 degrees), incorporated a redesigned tweeter and crossover to address the HF tonal balance issues, featured a more rugged cabinet design without grille-mounting sockets, and had improved connection terminals.
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The twitter and the crossovers were different ....
The Yamaha NS10 Story
Absolutely , most people swap the tweeters not the x-overs . This is why people should be aware of the xover differences when looking for new tweeters for any of the versions .
A tweeter for the studio version is quite easy to spot , just look for the white "circle" under the mesh .
I also see little talk about the obvious differences in recommended power rating for the different models .
If you want some more info on the x-overs i just happened to score a set of unused x-overs for the studio version. I just received a used pair of the first version aswell .
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Sorry guys, I answered without reading your posts.

Best regards.

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A tweeter for the studio version is quite easy to spot , just look for the white "circle" under the mesh .
I am so glad You said this. I am now shopping and even see studio cabinets with the wrong tweeters. Holy Moly. You saved me a headache.

Thank you.


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