Higher end Gear you've hated?

[Slipperman]

30th September 2006, 09:06 PM

Originally Posted by zaza

TLM 103
PRO TOOLS, CAKEWALK, WAVES, etc
Allen Heath
Mackie
Amek 9098
Any Joe Meek product

16th October 2006, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by zaza

TLM 103
PRO TOOLS
Focusrite ALL
Amek 9098
Beta 52
Avalon 737 / 747

Thanks for the update.

Keep us posted as things develop.

SM.

[AMIEL]

Avalon 737
Neve portico
Amek by rupert neve pre amp
focusrite red series
Neumann TLM 103
Some Soundelux mics
most of neve stuff ..beside of great 1073
Genelec Monitors.

[chandlersonic]

- Everything by Avalon ( however a friend of mine uses almost exclusivly Avalon stuff and his mixes sound awesome but it just doesn't do it for me).
- Neumann U87ai, I didn't hate it, but I except more coming from a mic that cost that price.
- Focusrite red

[Steamy Williams]

Originally Posted by slipperman

Thanks for the update.

Keep us posted as things develop.

SM.

LOL

[I Lurk]

This thread,

I hated this thread

[GPl]

Originally Posted by slipperman

Thanks for the update.

Keep us posted as things develop.

SM.

[Paul Woodlock]

I dislike

Cheap focusrite gear

Waves Ren and Q EQs

AKG C1000/C3000 mics - not high end though of course

anyone who says Macs are better than PCs ( and vice versa )

Unresponsive DAWs

dfegad Mackie HR824 Monitors. Actually I *hate* them. They are absolutely f*cking AWFUL muddy boxes!!!!!!

[AMIEL]

all these old Neve Eqs and preamps that people say are great than neve but in reality the exceptionl piece of neve is the 1073...most of all these units are noisy and far in quality sound from the 1073

all protools before HD


John hardy preamps......too sterile!

[Arksun]

You see this is what I love about music.

We can all totally disagree on what gear is best and yet still come up with great sounding tracks using stuff others hate.

All I can say is, thank god we have such a wide choice to choose from!, there's a piece of gear or software out there to suit everyone

Hmmm, high end stuff I dont like?, genelec monitors (and mackies).

[not_so_new]

In a dark smokey back room on some collage campus there is a psychologist or sociologist surrounded by stacks of leather bound books and half written notes that would view this very thread as their own personal wet dream.....

[antiguru]

Drawmer 1969 + 60's series stereo EQ

Maybe bad tubes... but i dunno

[Bang]

Originally Posted by lane thaw

Audient SUMO.

I made some great mixes with the sumo. what didn't you like about it

[Acoustic Cloud]

Originally Posted by AMIEL

John hardy preamps......too sterile!

You are WAY stupid!!!...... actually, you are sub stupid, as you give all the stupid people a bad name!! They dont want you around!

Please , no flame mail........just grilling the dummy for fun....

[AMIEL]

acoustic , i think u must love demeter stuff! dfegad

[raal]

Originally Posted by AMIEL

all these old Neve Eqs and preamps that people say are great than neve but in reality the exceptionl piece of neve is the 1073...most of all these units are noisy and far in quality sound from the 1073

what's the difference in sound between a 1073 and a 1084, except for the extra EQ?

[AMIEL]

Originally Posted by raal

what's the difference in sound between a 1073 and a 1084, except for the extra EQ?

so as i said.....most of these units!! no all of them!!!!

[Acoustic Cloud]

Originally Posted by AMIEL

acoustic , i think u must love demeter stuff! dfegad

You are right!! I have 4 Demeter 73068-A preamps and two of the B models unracked. Bob is coming over next month to rack the other 2... I cant wait!!

Hes coming from England, so if he comes thru Florida, or Puerto Rico, I'll have him give ya a holler! Or Que paso? Or Sup Menso?? Whichever it is.

???

[knerd]

Originally Posted by AdamJay

TLM 103
BLUE Blueberry
Dramwer 1960

RND Protico Preamp, not "hate" though, more like "why?"

I second the 1960... seriously it almost made me puke...

[jazzboy]

Apogee Ensemble. Never had a piece of gear this good and this bad at the same time. Awesome tone but tons of hiss (same problem on multiple units....oweee!). Wasted a bunch of time only to find out this is how it's designed?!?!?!?!?!?

Could this be the touch of the Apple?

[AdamNewman]

Apogee Rosetta 800 w/ X-HD card.

[BrianT]

Genelec monitors .... the bane of modern music, IMO

Avalon 737 .... defines the word "weenie"

Amek 9098 .... without the name Neve on it, no one would care

Summit Audio everything I've tried.... I don't get it

All PT before HD .... c'mon, admit it, you were all kidding yourselves

Studer A820 ... the meters alone do it in

TC Gold Channel .... the worst sounding thing I ever heard, seriously

Distressors ..... not bad, really, just vastly over-hyped

The sound of most high end control rooms ... rooms that sound like crap and yet people pay good money to build them .... weird

[Mike H]

Hate doesn't apply. But gear that, in the end, just didn't compete for very limited space and I sold:
-Genelec 1030A monitors
-Distressors
-Royer R-121
-Coles 4040
-Lil FrEQ's
-Drawmer 1968
-Vintech X81's
-KSP8
-Trackers
-Quartet II's.

These are probably all working great for those who bought them in perfect condition at low prices.

We all hear things a little differently.

[Stargazer]

Originally Posted by Mike H

Hate doesn't apply. But gear that, in the end, just didn't compete for very limited space and I sold:
-Genelec 1030A monitors
-Distressors
-Royer R-121
-Coles 4040
-Lil FrEQ's
-Drawmer 1968
-Vintech X81's
-KSP8
-Trackers
-Quartet II's.

These are probably all working great for those who bought them in perfect condition at low prices.

We all hear things a little differently.

The items of the above that I don't own are on my wishlist...

[I Lurk]

Originally Posted by zaza

Amek 9098

On what amek 9098 did you work ?

I mean where ?


best

[Bob Amirian]

Eventually, what a great topic!

There's plenty of such gear.

Thermionic Culture Culture Vulture - useless crap

Thermionic Culture The Phoenix - slow, colorless, no personality, tacky

SSL XLogic XRack

Alan Smart C2

SSL XLogic G-Series Compressor - hyped out but not deserving it

tfpro P38

Manley Vox Box - mediocre preamp, good EQ though


I'll keep thinking, there're so many more of those...

Bob

[licopin]

Any mixer without a meter bridge!

[Isle of Weight]

Originally Posted by Mike H

Hate doesn't apply. But gear that, in the end, just didn't compete for very limited space and I sold:
-Genelec 1030A monitors
-Distressors
-Royer R-121
-Coles 4040
-Lil FrEQ's
-Drawmer 1968
-Vintech X81's
-KSP8
-Trackers
-Quartet II's.

These are probably all working great for those who bought them in perfect condition at low prices.

We all hear things a little differently.

WOW, what did you keep? If you dont mind me asking?

AA.

[Yetti]

Originally Posted by knerd

I second the 1960... seriously it almost made me puke...

Damn.....I fricken love my Drawmer 1960!
I understand that many on this board don't like it, but I find the Bass DI is killer, the preamps are great with 57's for amps, and the compressor is killer for tracking vocals.
Makes me think that some units or versions sound different from what I got.

[vernier]

None that I've hated, but dissapointed with solid-state gear. Sixties and early seventies still had the sound, then the magic started dissapearing.

[T.RayBullard]

Originally Posted by vernier

None that I've hated, but dissapointed with solid-state gear. Sixties and early seventies still had the sound, then the magic started dissapearing.

but to say by merit that tube gear is superior or that all of it has " a sound" just because it is tube isnt really accurate. There are many tube pieces that dont have that "sound" that you are talking about...and there are preamps such as the DAV, Vintech, Pacifica, etc, that have been identified as tube in listening tests, but of course are solid state... it totally depends on the design..


Gefell um900 is a tube mic, but it certainly does NOT have that sort of "thick, creamy" sound... too many variations to generalize.