Higher end Gear you've hated? - Page 6

europa78 · 17th September 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tetness

That's because BlueStripes are the bomb. I own two and every time a patch something through one, I feel like I've died and gone to heaven.

Let's see, gear I hate...
Liquid Channel

yeah, kind of like comparing a '58 ferrari california spyder to a '89 camry.

BTW: I had a brand new '89 camry and it was very reliable -- not exciting, but reliable. Nowadays I get to drive something with a little more pizazz, but the camry wasn't a terrible car -- my mother-in-law loves it.

mackid · 17th September 2006

Mytek Converters

Sound Quality thumbsup thumbsup

Service and support dfegad dfegad dfegad dfegad dfegad

montanasan · 17th September 2006

Anything I can't afford!!

daily planet · 20th September 2006

Second That: I really dig the 414XLS too. It has won a few mic shootouts on make vocs at my place, even over Silver EB's and Old Neumanns...

No no's for me: Not a huge Genelec fan...though those older ribbon loaded S30s were pretty awesome.

Wasnt nuts about the dbx160VU...yeah, I know. Kooster likes em...maybe the pair I had needed service. I generally love dbx stuff (less the 266) for what it does.

Avalon 737 didnt knock me out...sent three back. The mastering EQ is outstanding however.

Pro Tools - havent heard HD in person...

Waves L1 and Waves Dither.

Never liked ADAT, ever.

Audix anything. oooo the pain.

Sony 2" eeeeeeeewwwwww

Studer CD players.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PHILANDDON

Don't believe the anti-hype. I have a pair (not stereo-matched) of AKG 414B-XLS, and I think they're great. Not colorful. Neutral and quiet (for a condenser at least), with very low self-noise. Love the variable polar patterns (especially figure 8). I haven't had too many other condensers but the AKG's beat my old AT4040's which were a little more agressive and more noisy, my old Rode NT1A, which was maybe a tad less noisy but far less musical, and my TLM 103, which I HATED, just like everyone else.

MrVelvet · 20th September 2006

Brauner Valvet - I'd define its sound to be tubey-sterile...

U87 on vocals - sterile, never liked it. Haven't tried it on anything else...

RE20 - never liked it, thin and boxy.

M149 - didn't hate it exactly, but sounded boring to me - especially for that money...

First UAD version - the compressor emulations sounded small, narrow and squishy to me... Will try one again for the Neve stuff and Pultec EQ.

I have a hard time with my ADAM P11s... There's something about them I just don't like... Will likely go with K&H O300D sometime...

T.RayBullard · 20th September 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by mackid

Mytek Converters

Sound Quality thumbsup thumbsup

Service and support dfegad dfegad dfegad dfegad dfegad

that is easily solved. ALWAYS deal with David.thumbsup

Flying_Dutchman · 20th September 2006

Focusrite Isa 220
Yamaha MSP10ST
nearly all Rode mics I borrowed (NT2, NTK, NT5), (well, not really high end)
Steinberg Nuendo
Empirical Labs Fatso
AKG Microphones (exept C12+C451)

Well, i like The Adams, the Royer and the Stc-8....

huarez · 20th September 2006

Every Preamp I owned before I heard those PV 76´s . All this Manley, Chandler, Tubetech and Millenia stuff I own sounds pretty poor to those.

OVERNIGHT · 21st September 2006

If I may...

I notice a trend line. The folks that have no love for the Royer 121 generally prefer a 57 or 58 for guitar.

And I don't love a 57 on guitar cabs. I know, I know, how many records, how many hits, Sarcralige!.... But fact is, I usually think that there's so many better options at my disposal. I find 57's do that 2-cycle motor-bike through you nose thing and 80's metal sound like no other mike can. Of course it can be used for lots of other effects as well but I just think there are usually better, more agile sounding mics for the job than the 57.

On the other hand, I love the 121. Lots of body, depth, flesh.... what you call mud. I know others that feel like I do.

So, I suspect, you're either one or the other. Or neither. Or both.....

27th September 2006

Manley enhanced "PULTEC" eqs (just never shined on anything).
Neuman 103 (I hate to be on the bandwagon, but I gave mine to a producer I work with, and now that I listen to his takes, I HATE it.)

BTW

Can someone finally set the record straight. What is the difference between the amek 9098 series stuff and the Channel in a BOX?

I have 2 CIBs. I know that they are different, but I dont know how much different.

I've never used the 9098's but I love my CIBs (especially the EQ's) so much that I wouldn't mind another pair. (Though I need to pick up some "thicker" stuff first ala NEVE/API).

Must be a pretty big difference between the 9098 stuff and the CIB, judging by the comments about the 9098 stuff.

toddro · 27th September 2006

... ditto many of the above, but I'll add a new one:

The Masterlink

Slow, cumbersome, terrible sounding redbook cd's, and even with outboard A/D and D/A, it just seemed to gack with the sound...

Improv · 28th September 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by no ssl yet

Can someone finally set the record straight. What is the difference between the amek 9098 series stuff and the Channel in a BOX?

I have 2 CIBs. I know that they are different, but I dont know how much different.

I've never used the 9098's but I love my CIBs (especially the EQ's) so much that I wouldn't mind another pair. (Though I need to pick up some "thicker" stuff first ala NEVE/API).

Must be a pretty big difference between the 9098 stuff and the CIB, judging by the comments about the 9098 stuff.

Well, dunno if I can set any records straight from my experience, as I've never directly A/B'ed them... nor have I reached yet for the 9098 on anything like a lead vocal (of which I've done many on the CIB). But if I had to characterize them on my limited experience with the 9098, I'd say it was thinner than the CIB. And the EQ not as flexible or warm. And no compressor (which is really quite nice on the CIB, imo) Kind of boring compared to the relative robustness of the CIB. Due to its filter and hishelf, though, it often gets used by me... on hat! Killer for that...

The 9098 has also worked well recently on Irish fiddle. Again, a bit on the thin side.

For most basics tracking, my two CIB's go on kick and snare. Love them for their ability to sculpt.

Acoustic Cloud · 28th September 2006

Almost every piece of gear considered by most people to be the "cats meow" has had at least one cameo in this thread. Thats why I started it in the first place!

Apparantly its in the ear, and not the gear........

Improv · 28th September 2006

I think the thread title alone might indicate that many of our gear purchases are driven by fear. Don't wanna get something that's not popular! Surely it will ruin your productions! Especially if it was expensive....

It's the fear, not the gear.

mhjn · 30th September 2006

Flea mics, supose to be same as u67s but they're just not, they're too harsh ... friend of mine invested a lot of money in 2 of them .. glad i didnt

-m

DonPedro · 30th September 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by OVERNIGHT

If I may...

I notice a trend line. The folks that have no love for the Royer 121 generally prefer a 57 or 58 for guitar.

And I don't love a 57 on guitar cabs. I know, I know, how many records, how many hits, Sarcralige!.... But fact is, I usually think that there's so many better options at my disposal. I find 57's do that 2-cycle motor-bike through you nose thing and 80's metal sound like no other mike can. Of course it can be used for lots of other effects as well but I just think there are usually better, more agile sounding mics for the job than the 57.

On the other hand, I love the 121. Lots of body, depth, flesh.... what you call mud. I know others that feel like I do.

So, I suspect, you're either one or the other. Or neither. Or both.....

Just got my self both :-)

mackid · 1st October 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by T.RayBullard

that is easily solved. ALWAYS deal with David.thumbsup

You can call or email David all you want, but you'll still have to wait for months for Michal to get around to it. David has NO effect on the real problem.

So Mytek still dfegad dfegad dfegad dfegad dfegad

T.RayBullard · 1st October 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by mackid

You can call or email David all you want, but you'll still have to wait for months for Michal to get around to it. David has NO effect on the real problem.

So Mytek still dfegad dfegad dfegad dfegad dfegad

He is working on it...it is a long process. It wont happen overnight. David is having some effect, I promise. I know what the real problem is....but rome wasnt built in a day.

Sounds Great · 1st October 2006

Distresser (not the least bit impressed)

RNC (not high end, though, really)

Neumann M149 (as someone said, quite boring, not horrible though)

Soundelux U99 (bright, thin, cold)

Amek 9098 pre/eq (usable but pre has a rubbery effect to it (best I can describe)

AllAboutTone · 1st October 2006

TLM 103
PRO TOOLS, CAKEWALK, WAVES, etc
Allen Heath
Mackie
Amek 9098
Any Joe Meek product

Acoustic Cloud · 1st October 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by zaza

TLM 103
PRO TOOLS, CAKEWALK, WAVES, etc
Allen Heath
Mackie
Amek 9098
Any Joe Meek product

Any Joemeek product, Im not sure about that......?

SighBorg · 1st October 2006

Neuman TLM 103 - Tires ears

A TL audio Compressor - Harsh

The sound of a stock protools system - You know

Korg Triton - Built in FX arent that great. There are some good samples in it, but they're not multi-sampled to a high enough degree.

SSL Mix Bus Compressor - What it does to the mids and highs is awsome, but it makes the low end sound small. The Channel compressors pump nicely though.

IMO

SMT · 11th October 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmos

Any of the Focusrite Platinum series ( i dont even sure if i can call it High End... )

Any of the Focusrite Platinum series ...

ohhh ... i allmost forgot ...

Please enlight me of what you disliked about the Compounder... ´Cause I was SO damn surprised how good it was for the drum-bus... It pretty damn much blew me away.... I did NOT excpect that from a cheap compressor...

not_so_new · 11th October 2006

Yep... do a search on GS for just about any piece of gear and this thread will pop up.

This thread is a CLASSIC example of why you need to try things for yourself in your environment. Almost anything you can think of is listed on this very thread with the title of "High end gear that you've hated.

Funny isn't it?

Neveboy · 12th October 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cellotron

TC Finalizers
Focusrite Red pre's
Sony DASH recorders

Best regards,
Steve Berson

Ha ha... I have a dfegad Sony DASH in my kitchen !! I kid you not !!

PCM3324s

Anyone wanna swap for an A80

PurpleGuitars · 12th October 2006

- Pro Tools - (older versions, haven't used HD)
- ADAT'S
- I love my Apogee Rosetta's but getting them to work... that's a different story.. the people at Apogee sometimes don't even know what they are talking about...
- Alesis Monitor Two's (in smaller rooms don't work)
- Yamaha Digital mixing consoles, (don't know why I ever used those...)
- Line6 Pod (it will never sound like a real tube amp!!!!)
- Neuman KM 184's ( I still have them, but rarely like them)
- Did I mention ADAT's?

Yoda117 · 12th October 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Improv

I think the thread title alone might indicate that many of our gear purchases are driven by fear. Don't wanna get something that's not popular! Surely it will ruin your productions! Especially if it was expensive....

It's the fear, not the gear.

Yep. Couldn't agree more. I actually have a chain with a lot of gear mentioned on here and it's working fine for my needs. If it's putting $ in my pocket doing VO at the home studio using a U87>M619>Trakker>Lil' FrEQ (soon to be purchased instead of using a loaner), then I don't have a problem with it

AllAboutTone · 16th October 2006

TLM 103
PRO TOOLS
Focusrite ALL
Amek 9098
Beta 52
Avalon 737 / 747

The MPCist · 16th October 2006

Distressors (bought them on impulse and ended up hardly ever using them....

Massive Passive (Don't hate it, just I do use it anymore.... the highs..)

Vari-Mu (Again, don't hate it.. just don't use it anymore...

U87's and M149's

Gabriel Sousa · 16th October 2006

many ppl says TLM 103, but for me isnt a high mic

20th September 2006	#155
MrVelvet Lives for gear Join Date: May 2006 Location: Karlsruhe, Germany Posts: 719	Brauner Valvet - I'd define its sound to be tubey-sterile... U87 on vocals - sterile, never liked it. Haven't tried it on anything else... RE20 - never liked it, thin and boxy. M149 - didn't hate it exactly, but sounded boring to me - especially for that money... First UAD version - the compressor emulations sounded small, narrow and squishy to me... Will try one again for the Neve stuff and Pultec EQ. I have a hard time with my ADAM P11s... There's something about them I just don't like... Will likely go with K&H O300D sometime... __________________ . Nicolay Ketterer realsamples http://www.realsamples.com http://www.myspace.com/realsamples

21st September 2006	#159
OVERNIGHT Gear addict Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 437	If I may... I notice a trend line. The folks that have no love for the Royer 121 generally prefer a 57 or 58 for guitar. And I don't love a 57 on guitar cabs. I know, I know, how many records, how many hits, Sarcralige!.... But fact is, I usually think that there's so many better options at my disposal. I find 57's do that 2-cycle motor-bike through you nose thing and 80's metal sound like no other mike can. Of course it can be used for lots of other effects as well but I just think there are usually better, more agile sounding mics for the job than the 57. On the other hand, I love the 121. Lots of body, depth, flesh.... what you call mud. I know others that feel like I do. So, I suspect, you're either one or the other. Or neither. Or both..... __________________ 47.6% of all statistics on the internet are made up on the spot.

27th September 2006	#161
toddro Gear nut Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Franklin, TN Posts: 75	... ditto many of the above, but I'll add a new one: The Masterlink Slow, cumbersome, terrible sounding redbook cd's, and even with outboard A/D and D/A, it just seemed to gack with the sound... __________________ Todd R. Franklin, TN

28th September 2006	#163
Acoustic Cloud Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: around the corner Posts: 1,990 Thread Starter	Almost every piece of gear considered by most people to be the "cats meow" has had at least one cameo in this thread. Thats why I started it in the first place! Apparantly its in the ear, and not the gear........ __________________ If the Earth wasnt created, where'd all the dirt come from?

30th September 2006	#165
mhjn Gear interested Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Prague, Czech Republic Posts: 1	Flea mics, supose to be same as u67s but they're just not, they're too harsh ... friend of mine invested a lot of money in 2 of them .. glad i didnt -m __________________ Martin Ledvina / RePrague Audio Prague, Czech Republic

17th September 2006	#152
mackid Gear nut Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Suburban Chicago Posts: 99	Mytek Converters Sound Quality thumbsup thumbsup Service and support dfegad dfegad dfegad dfegad dfegad

17th September 2006	#153
montanasan Gear addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: West Coast of Scotland Posts: 339	Anything I can't afford!!

20th September 2006	#157
Flying_Dutchman Lives for gear Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 3,049	Focusrite Isa 220 Yamaha MSP10ST nearly all Rode mics I borrowed (NT2, NTK, NT5), (well, not really high end) Steinberg Nuendo Empirical Labs Fatso AKG Microphones (exept C12+C451) Well, i like The Adams, the Royer and the Stc-8....

20th September 2006	#158
huarez Gear addict Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: EUROPE Posts: 358	Every Preamp I owned before I heard those PV 76´s . All this Manley, Chandler, Tubetech and Millenia stuff I own sounds pretty poor to those.

27th September 2006	#160
no ssl yet Guest Posts: n/a	Manley enhanced "PULTEC" eqs (just never shined on anything). Neuman 103 (I hate to be on the bandwagon, but I gave mine to a producer I work with, and now that I listen to his takes, I HATE it.) BTW Can someone finally set the record straight. What is the difference between the amek 9098 series stuff and the Channel in a BOX? I have 2 CIBs. I know that they are different, but I dont know how much different. I've never used the 9098's but I love my CIBs (especially the EQ's) so much that I wouldn't mind another pair. (Though I need to pick up some "thicker" stuff first ala NEVE/API). Must be a pretty big difference between the 9098 stuff and the CIB, judging by the comments about the 9098 stuff.

28th September 2006	#164
Improv Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 1,365	I think the thread title alone might indicate that many of our gear purchases are driven by fear. Don't wanna get something that's not popular! Surely it will ruin your productions! Especially if it was expensive.... It's the fear, not the gear.

1st October 2006	#169
Sounds Great Gear Guru Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Twin Cities, MN Posts: 18,024 1 Review written	Distresser (not the least bit impressed) RNC (not high end, though, really) Neumann M149 (as someone said, quite boring, not horrible though) Soundelux U99 (bright, thin, cold) Amek 9098 pre/eq (usable but pre has a rubbery effect to it (best I can describe) __________________ http://soundcloud.com/sounds-great-1 -Rob Kicking around on a piece of ground in your home town Waiting for someone or something to show you the way.

1st October 2006	#170
AllAboutTone Gear Guru Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: S.Carolina Posts: 11,066	TLM 103 PRO TOOLS, CAKEWALK, WAVES, etc Allen Heath Mackie Amek 9098 Any Joe Meek product __________________ *Don't Fuk with my Tone !!!. I need a spell check app API~ Dan Alexander~ Fuchs~ John Hardy ~JLM ~Studer 089 Fuchs Amps = Amazing Tone !!**

1st October 2006	#172
SighBorg Gear addict Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 484	Neuman TLM 103 - Tires ears A TL audio Compressor - Harsh The sound of a stock protools system - You know Korg Triton - Built in FX arent that great. There are some good samples in it, but they're not multi-sampled to a high enough degree. SSL Mix Bus Compressor - What it does to the mids and highs is awsome, but it makes the low end sound small. The Channel compressors pump nicely though. IMO

11th October 2006	#174
not_so_new Lives for gear Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 5,695	Yep... do a search on GS for just about any piece of gear and this thread will pop up. This thread is a CLASSIC example of why you need to try things for yourself in your environment. Almost anything you can think of is listed on this very thread with the title of "High end gear that you've hated. Funny isn't it? __________________ Michael

12th October 2006	#176
PurpleGuitars Gear nut Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Holland Posts: 96	- Pro Tools - (older versions, haven't used HD) - ADAT'S - I love my Apogee Rosetta's but getting them to work... that's a different story.. the people at Apogee sometimes don't even know what they are talking about... - Alesis Monitor Two's (in smaller rooms don't work) - Yamaha Digital mixing consoles, (don't know why I ever used those...) - Line6 Pod (it will never sound like a real tube amp!!!!) - Neuman KM 184's ( I still have them, but rarely like them) - Did I mention ADAT's? __________________ Music = Life

16th October 2006	#178
AllAboutTone Gear Guru Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: S.Carolina Posts: 11,066	TLM 103 PRO TOOLS Focusrite ALL Amek 9098 Beta 52 Avalon 737 / 747

16th October 2006	#179
The MPCist Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 4,479	Distressors (bought them on impulse and ended up hardly ever using them.... Massive Passive (Don't hate it, just I do use it anymore.... the highs..) Vari-Mu (Again, don't hate it.. just don't use it anymore... U87's and M149's __________________ THE MPCIST

16th October 2006	#180
Gabriel Sousa Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Leiria, Portugal Posts: 643	many ppl says TLM 103, but for me isnt a high mic

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