Higher end Gear you've hated? - Page 2

henryrobinett · 6th August 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruudman

thumbsup

Have you played with C. Peacock?

ruudman

Whoa! Now that's out of the clear blue. Yes. A lot back a ways. I just saw him last week. He's sending me some recordings we recently made.

Ruudman · 6th August 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by henryrobinett

Whoa! Now that's out of the clear blue. Yes. A lot back a ways. I just saw him last week. He's sending me some recordings we recently made.

Cool!
Hope they find their way to the record store

ruudman

henryrobinett · 7th August 2006

How did you know I played with Charlie/Chuck?

84K · 7th August 2006

Millenia stuff.... I don't get it.

Soundelux..... I tried but one never came that worked correctly... 5 strikes and they're out

Sony C-800G... again, Don't get it. Sounds like plastic to me.

thethrillfactor · 7th August 2006

Stuff that didn't bowl me over and proved the point don't believe the hype/ check it out for yourself:

Portico mic pre

Pendulumn ES-8

Cranesong STC-8

DW Fearn VT-1

Daking mic pre and compressor

Vintech anything

Transient Designer

Summit DCL-200

DBX 160SL

Avalon 2044

Soundelux mics

Manley Gold Ref mic

Korby mic with switchable capsules

Adam monitors

Speck mono EQ

The RNC compressor

ripper · 7th August 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by thethrillfactor

Stuff that didn't bowl me over and proved the point don't believe the hype/ check it out for yourself:

Portico mic pre

Pendulumn ES-8

Cranesong STC-8

DW Fearn VT-1

Daking mic pre and compressor

Vintech anything

Transient Designer

Summit DCL-200

DBX 160SL

Avalon 2044

Soundelux mics

Manley Gold Ref mic

Korby mic with switchable capsules

Adam monitors

Speck mono EQ

The RNC compressor

I agree w/ much of this list nad a lot of what people have listed...
but it goes to show we all like/nedd different hammers!
For instance, I LOVE my ADAMS s3A's and haven't turned on my ATC's since I got them.

Also my STC8 is still my fav stereo bus comps and i've directly compared it with seriously about EVERY highend stereo comp!!! others might choose an SSL... that just ain't me!

also, have 2 RNC's and think they're a great bang for the buck just to have abunch of extra compressers for little odd jobs... like on an effect return or that last layer of stereo backing vocals. cheap but not nasty, at least in these applications.

hey, what's the deal with people raving about the pendelum ES8... we compared one w/ everything in the house and renamed the damn thing THE SMALLILIZER!!!!

one man's stickman is another man's fat chick, i guess

jumpnyc · 7th August 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by thethrillfactor

Stuff that didn't bowl me over and proved the point don't believe the hype/ check it out for yourself:

Portico mic pre

Pendulumn ES-8

Cranesong STC-8

DW Fearn VT-1

Daking mic pre and compressor

Vintech anything

Transient Designer

Summit DCL-200

DBX 160SL

Avalon 2044

Soundelux mics

Manley Gold Ref mic

Korby mic with switchable capsules

Adam monitors

Speck mono EQ

The RNC compressor

But Thrill - Don't you advertise that you use a Manley Mastering and STC-8 in your rack?

84K · 7th August 2006

Besides your SSL, what blows you away Thrill?

thethrillfactor · 7th August 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by jumpnyc

But Thrill - Don't you advertise that you use a Manley Mastering and STC-8 in your rack?

I am the Focusrite Blue 230 guy.

No STC-8 here.

Again i never said i hated it.

Come to think of it i don't hate anything...well i hate being broke so almost anything.

To me its a one trick pony.

Just an opinion.

thethrillfactor · 7th August 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by 84K

Besides your SSL, what blows you away Thrill?

Former SSL owner.

Right now everything that is left in my racks i like and never let me down.

But if you go by the list of the stuff i've sold over the years it ain't much really.

mackid · 7th August 2006

AKG Mics, tried them all, they all suck.

thethrillfactor · 7th August 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by mackid

AKG Mics, tried them all, they all suck.

And does this include an AKG C12 as well?

popmann · 7th August 2006

Quote:

U-67 (I've tried three and just don't get it).

You've tried them on what...? You guitar?

Chapiro · 7th August 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by thethrillfactor

Former SSL owner.

Right now everything that is left in my racks i like and never let me down.

But if you go by the list of the stuff i've sold over the years it ain't much really.

What board r u using now?

For me anything focusrite including (sorry) the blue (mastering dark blue) line, tlm 103, any amek board.dfegad

nlc201 · 7th August 2006

HATE to say it but Royer 121s. I was so excited to try them on heavy guitar after all that I had heard. Rented one, put it up on a decent amp with a great player and presto........mud city. Wow..... Moved the mic all around, tried brighter preamps to no avail. So I jacked up the high end on the amp and cut the lows so it sounded fizzy and nasty and that got rid of some of the mud but still didn't sound great (fo figure!!). I tried all the tricks I knew. Then I put up a 57 and the damn thing started to sound like music (after I reset the amp back to normal). My current favorite chain is 2 57s- one regular, one modified with the transformer removed. A great thing about using two of the same microphones is that it's very easy to phase align them by eye. Screw the royer.

s.d.finley · 7th August 2006

I would have to say I was very "dissappointed" with the Rodes mics I've heard.
I havent heard the K2 or the new classic...

sdf

stevetgn · 7th August 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhilE

All the Joe Meek stuff I've ever seen

Hopefully you mean the new Joe Meek stuff and not Ted Fletcher gear, because his new P38 compressor is superb as was the original SC1! Strap that puppy on your drum buss and enjoy!

Jules · 7th August 2006

I've never really had much experience with Lexicon 480's or 224's consequently I am a dunce with regards to operating them..

This is an irrational dislike of course and my bad.

GYang · 7th August 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by thethrillfactor

Stuff that didn't bowl me over and proved the point don't believe the hype/ check it out for yourself:

Portico mic pre

Pendulumn ES-8

Cranesong STC-8

DW Fearn VT-1

Daking mic pre and compressor

Vintech anything

Transient Designer

Summit DCL-200

DBX 160SL

Avalon 2044

Soundelux mics

Manley Gold Ref mic

Korby mic with switchable capsules

Adam monitors

Speck mono EQ

The RNC compressor

Fair opinion.
IMO some clarification would be OK.

Transient Designer is specific sounding dynamic effect box (as any effect it might be or might be not usable on something). I can't compare it with anything similar and when this particular effect is necessary TD does it. Can I live without it? No doubt.
Speck EQ to me is better as EQ than RNC as compressor. Actually I don't like RNC at all and find it usable only outside of my analogue chains (for example on shelf to memorize last settings on some particular compressor). RNC is not step toward high-end. Speck EQ is good enough to be used on individual tracks (except most critical) on mixdown.
With Korby convertible I had luck to get 2 great capsules (67 and 251), as well as, tweaked C12 to my taste, all together at price that more than justified purchase of this package. (although for U47 after longer usage I started to prefer Wagner).

PhilE · 7th August 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevetgn

Hopefully you mean the new Joe Meek stuff and not Ted Fletcher gear, because his new P38 compressor is superb as was the original SC1! Strap that puppy on your drum buss and enjoy!

Nope- the stuff I'm thinking of has been kicking around for years- can't get on with it at all... just always been something better in the rack for whatever I've wanted!
It might be OK- but it's never been the thing that did what I needed.
Maybe it's worth another try but I can't think what on.

Isle of Weight · 7th August 2006

Adam monitors !!!!!
Millennia origin

True North · 7th August 2006

TLm 103's

Royer 122's

Avalon 737

Audio Technica AE2500 Dual Element....thingy...whatchamacallit

U87

allencollins · 7th August 2006

apogee rosetta 200 - if its cost was $700 I would have liked it but not @ 1700

Chandler Germanium - hated the sound. sounded like an old Paul Revere an the raiders record. very mushy sounding

Chandler ltd-1 - had two different ones they didn't sound that horrible but
the knobs were loose and some of the pots were scratchy
from the factory. Didn't sound much better than the chamealon Labs for $700. Not half as good as an original. Then again it is half the price of an original

royer R-121 - This thing can make a great pop guitar rig sound like garage tones.
I bet Pearl Jam uses these. Very disapointed in these. Ill take the $89 sm57 over this garb anyday

philip · 7th August 2006

Dynaudio monitors
Focusrite RED3
A-Design MP2-A

T.RayBullard · 7th August 2006

Millennia preamps(HV-3C, HV-3B)

km184

Infernal Device · 7th August 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by thethrillfactor

Stuff that didn't bowl me over and proved the point don't believe the hype/ check it out for yourself:

The RNC compressor

The only time I have heard RNC as higher end gear.
I agree with almost everything else.

Me-
Manley Voxbox. Good unit, yes. $3600? No way. Mine broke three times.

AmekGuy · 7th August 2006

Soundelux U195 (most siblant high end mic there is with too much fizz on the top end).
Gefell UM70T (does not measure up to the smoothness of the older UM70s)
AKG 414 BXLS

Stefan Elmblad · 7th August 2006

I can PM you guys my adress, and you can send me all that dfegad shitty gear you're talking about.

Tone Laborer · 7th August 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stefan Elmblad

I can PM you guys my adress, and you can send me all that dfegad shitty gear you're talking about.

thumbsup At least with high end you can get a good portion of your money back on resale.

davidwilson · 8th August 2006

I'll take all the unwanted Vox Box's.

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