What hardware was Waves Renaissance Compressor modeled after?
Old 13th January 2013
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What hardware was Waves Renaissance Compressor modeled after?

Does anyone know what piece of hardware the sound emulation of the Waves Renaissance Compressor is modeled after?
Old 13th January 2013
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Good question, as I really loved this one when I used to support WAVES. It was $ on bass and vocals
Old 13th January 2013
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i always understood the Opto to be modelled after the LA-2A's behaviour and the Electro after the 1176.
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A bad one.
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Old 13th January 2013
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Not really an answer to the OP's question but the Renaissance EQ was modeled after the Massive Passsive.
Old 13th January 2013
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I have no idea if it was really modelled after any particular piece of hardware or not, but I sometimes prefer it to my hardware ssl g, for the same type of application. Of course, I use the hardware version, with the maxxbass and limiter.
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yeah,always understood the Opto to be modelled after the LA-2A's behaviour and the Electro after the 1176.
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Well using the word "Renaissance" in the name would suggest that the plug is supposed to sound like something vintage. But I suppose what I'm really looking for is a piece of hardware that sounds like this comp plug in its "auto-release" mode, which has a very modern sound, with a little bit of hype. Any ideas what piece of hardware will comp like a vintage comp, but have "auto-release" ?
Old 13th January 2013
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Red3 maybe? It's clean like rcomp and has auto release.
Old 13th January 2013
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Not sure but it’s actually quite difficult not to get a good sound with this plugin.
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i always understood the Opto to be modelled after the LA-2A's behaviour and the Electro after the 1176.
Odd. Neither of those have the rcomp's over-the-top dark tonality. Nor autorelease. Nor the extremely wide range of attack and release times.

I had always suspected the rcomp wasn't meant to model anything; it was simply a plugin "inspired" by vintage units.

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Not really an answer to the OP's question but the Renaissance EQ was modeled after the Massive Passsive.


I certainly hope not, because if that's the case, they did a terrible job.
Old 14th January 2013
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If it's an accurate model...I don't know...3630?
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Anyone have any suggestions on a hardware comp with auto-release?
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most hardware comps have some sort of auto release, even if it doesn't say auto anywhere on the face plate. so basically, try out a few, see what you like.
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Not really an answer to the OP's question but the Renaissance EQ was modeled after the Massive Passsive.
Again, maybe "inspired by". The tactile response of the Ren EQ is hardly similar to the Massive passive, and it certainly doesn't have the same tone. Maybe a similar Q range...I'd say that's probably it.
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most hardware comps have some sort of auto release, even if it doesn't say auto anywhere on the face plate. so basically, try out a few, see what you like.
That makes sense. Because outboard companies' marketing departments hate the idea of promoting extra features. Way better to keep those sorts of things hidden, to keep their product from seeming more richly-featured than that of their competition.
Old 14th January 2013
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Why do you think it needs 64 samples of it's own buffer? You won't find the same feature in hardware...because it's impossible. "auto" in analog will not do the same thing. It will save you from having to set it...but, it's just going to be a sidechain manipulation to the detector--be it filtering or mixing in some RMS levels...there's no digital buffer for it to look ahead into.
Old 15th January 2013
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Again, maybe "inspired by". The tactile response of the Ren EQ is hardly similar to the Massive passive, and it certainly doesn't have the same tone. Maybe a similar Q range...I'd say that's probably it.
True. It was designed in part by Hutch from Manley and Mike Gerzon and doesn't model any one eq. The eq uses a combination of Gerzon, Pultec and Baxandall type filters. Nothing much to do with the M.P. valve eq.
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interesting.. I never thought about what it was modeled after... just knew that I liked it for its sheer simplicity and functionality. Kind of cool that it was modeled after 2 classics!
Old 15th January 2013
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yea well..... there's nothing tubey about the opto setting in the r comp. and there's nothing, absolutely nothing resembling an 1176 coming out the other side of a waves r comp. having said that, the r comp is a classic in it's own right.
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A bad one.
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