STC-8 !

[mac black]

Where have you been all this time... I’ve been testing it for about a week and thought it was ok until I saw you all rave about it and then, yesterday it came alive!!! Amazing. Im on V setting (manual attack&release) full gain 0 slope and hara setting, boy this is like a dream...just play with the master fader and off you go. It’s the bomb !!!!
I can’t stop going on about it to all my studio buds.
I've decided to buy it (surprise...) £1800 and while im at it I got the Curtis opre2 - clear and in your face, what a beauty.

Im happy

[Fletcher]

Congratulations... welcome to the club.

[jazzius II]

Check-out preset A with auto release...killer!

[matucha]

stop teasing me!

[villeman]

Jazzius, are you using preset A on the 2bus or individual tracks?

Also, I´ve had no luck with the STC limiter. It kills the transients of the drums and make them sound "mushy", even when the LED is barely lighting up. Anyone else?

Another question: I find the KI setting quite unusable. It sounds like a fixed LPF. What are your thoughts?

"Hara" kicks ass though!!!!!

[jazzius II]

I'm using A (auto rel) sometimes on the 2-buss...when i want a very smooth compression sound and the release doesn't need to be too fast.....it sounds very classy (and classic) on some things......it really depends on the tempo of the song and how the groove sits.....most of the time i use the manual setup {actually, most of the time i don't use any compression at all!}.....

Yeah, i'm not too wild about the limiter......although complaining about a limiter killing transients is a bit like complaing about water putting out a fire!

The limiter could be useful in tracking to prevent clipping your converter

Ki: i'd only use it very very occasionally on the 2.......messes up the timbre balance too much...will make things like guitars sound strange (too thick and forward)........occasionally if i have a track that's totally empty in that area, i might give ki a whirl......

I think ki could be useful in mixing......

don't forget to try it un-linked on the 2!

[villeman]

Jazzius, please elaborate! What are the difference, using it un-linked on the 2bus?

Thanks!

[villeman]

Ooh, the limiter thing. I know it´s a contradiction to complain about transients, but Í´ve heard better transient handling from other limiters, especially digital.

[kosi]

I'm always using an EQ (basscut) in the sidechain !!! Highly recommended.

kosi

[Jules]

I often use the Ki setting on my mixes..

I belive it stops 'fluttering' on fast release setttings. (???)

Side chain? Please tell us more Kosi (did you finish your drum room OK btw?)

[kosi]

Originally posted by Jules

Side chain? Please tell us more Kosi (did you finish your drum room OK btw?)

Well, I can get a lot more bump out my STC with the EQ in the sidechain. I learned the advantages of the sidechain compression on an Avalon 474, which has the SC-EQ built in.
I really like to cut the bass -9db at 60 hz and sometimes I give a 6or9 db push at 3 or 4 k to get the middies tighter.
You have to listen, what it does to your mix.(or whatsoever)
On my last mix, I used the SC as as Input for a Kick, to duck the bass away. It's very easy to get the pumping in rhythm ! lots of fun.
But attention, the sidechain needs to be connected, even when you don't use it, otherwise no compression.

My drumroom is waiting, cause my room-acoustic guy needed 2 months, to draw the plans But in February, I'll go on, right now in the middle of a TV series and no time at all.
BTW, I bought me an Chandler TG1 (and a TG2) meanwhile and it's the bomb.
What a splendid comp. Direct love....
I claim you responsible for this, Jules ! Thank you

cheers mate, kosi

[Jules]

All cool news!

[mac black]

Do i to get the SC lead with the unit? i dont have the lead.
the limiter is quite severe but sometimes it works nice (not so much on gtr tunes , better on dance stuff)

[OKden]

Originally posted by jazzius II

don't forget to try it un-linked on the 2!

This is excellent advise!

[jbuntz]

anybody ever try a slight delay in the side chain? I would think that would have an interesting effect on transients. Also, distortion in the side chain would limit the amount of gain reduction. Two ideas I've never tried.

[kosi]

The Sidechain cable is not included, but there's a pin asseignment in the manual.
The negative delay is very easy to achieve in a workstation, just double one track, shift it a lil bit and send this signal to the SC input, works very good.
A good way to get the right timing is to monitor the source signal without the input signal, means, listen to your bass with the kik muted on the 2bus, so you can hear the ebb and flow more comfortable.
and you can automate the amount with the automation, which is handy, when for instance the voice ducks away some other instruments.

An idea would be also to use sidechaincompression with a multiband compressor, the kik is ducking only the lower freqencies of the bass (e.g)...

kosi

[mac black]

wow , it gets better with every post.. im gonna look for a S/C cable

thanks

Mac

[Big Gee]

Booo Hisssss..... grudge

I'm soooo jealous......

Looked for one on ebay and in all the usual places... NADDA!

[steins]

(I don't mean to hijack the thread, but there's already so many "best compressor"-threads on this forum)

I'm in the market for a new stereo compressor, and seriously consider the STC-8. Problem is, I'm not able to demo it. I don't think there even is one in this country yet.

I've read as much about it as I can, but I'd really appreciate any comments on using it in these situations:

- Recording acoustic guitars
- Bus compressor on mixdown (in my case, HW-insert when bouncing down in PT)

If it can do other duites as well, fine, but those are the areas where my current gear doesn't quite "make it". Or maybe it's my recording skills that don't quite make it....I've been known to make up good excuses for buying more gear......no, it's probably the gear...

Stein Tore

[villeman]

Hi Stein,

You should contact Bo at Golden Age Music in Sweden.
He will be able to help you out. He sells to Norway as well.

http://www.goldenagemusic.se/swe/proaudio/index.html

BTW. It is a fantastic compressor!!!

Good luck!

[steins]

Originally posted by villeman
Hi Stein,

You should contact Bo at Golden Age Music in Sweden.
He will be able to help you out. He sells to Norway as well.

http://www.goldenagemusic.se/swe/proaudio/index.html

BTW. It is a fantastic compressor!!!

Good luck!

I had a conversation with him on the phone a few days ago. He was very helpful. I didn´t ask him if I could borrow a unit for testing, tough. Doesn´t matter, it seems like this unit would be a safe buy anyhow.

Thanks.
Stein Tore

[Jules]

- Recording acoustic guitars
- Bus compressor on mixdown (in my case, HW-insert when bouncing down in PT)

It does both of the above VERY well indeed.

[mixerguy]

bump to an OLD thread

[yeloocproducer]

STC8 ruling here for mixbuss and mastering. I've had mine for almost 10 years and still freak out on little tricks it can do. Just mixed down a minimal techno/ house thing for Matthew Dear (very talented) and pushed 50 and 60 all the way up on the side chain for effect... and the mix just pumps like crazy w. a tempo driven release a la daft punk, etc. I lost a bit of low end decay (deep bass)... so then I pulled 30/40 back down out of the sidechain (which is where the rumble was) to bring that back up in the mix. Unconventional but on this mix it sounds INSANE!!!!

[mixerguy]

Originally Posted by yeloocproducer

STC8 ruling here for mixbuss and mastering. I've had mine for almost 10 years and still freak out on little tricks it can do. Just mixed down a minimal techno/ house thing for Matthew Dear (very talented) and pushed 50 and 60 all the way up on the side chain for effect... and the mix just pumps like crazy w. a tempo driven release a la daft punk, etc. I lost a bit of low end decay (deep bass)... so then I pulled 30/40 back down out of the sidechain (which is where the rumble was) to bring that back up in the mix. Unconventional but on this mix it sounds INSANE!!!!

super cool!!!

where / when / how can i hear this track???

[yeloocproducer]

As is the case with anything worth posting, I can't do it b/c it would be a leak. I guess just check his next release on Ghostly intl. It's a cool project... he's singing more on this project and it sounds like early prince b-sides (erotic city) meets minimal techno. Very cool stuff...

[Steamy Williams]

Originally Posted by yeloocproducer

It's a cool project... he's singing more on this project and it sounds like early prince b-sides (erotic city) meets minimal techno. Very cool stuff...

I love "Erotic City". I also love my STC-8.

[Donny]

Is it possible to buy the sidechain cable ???

[yeloocproducer]

We just built one here... but I think they may be available from Cranesong... I'm using a rane graphic eq for SC.