anyone using one Digi 192 and one Apogee DA16x on a HD3 Accel rig?

[mixerguy]

Hi y’all

Is anyone using one Digi 192 and one Apogee DA16x with an X-Series HD card on a HD3 Accel rig?

This would get me an 8 in 24 out rig.

I’m aware of the slight (few sample) timing difference between the converters.....

I want to get peoples thoughts and feedback on how they like running a rig specifically like this.

thanks!

[mixerguy]

anyone?

[raal]

Originally Posted by mixerguy

I’m aware of the slight (few sample) timing difference between the converters.....

have HD3 with 1 X 192 + DA 16X on HD card now. use the apogees to break out to a folcrom. am not aware of any timing differences that way. use 192s for analog inserts for ADC. 16X DA is 2dB hotter than 192s out of the box. you can adjust them, but i use it like that. a little hotter to folcrom is cool for me.

[mixerguy]

Originally Posted by raal

have HD2 with 1 X 192 + DA 16X on HD card now. use the apogees to break out to a folcrom. am not aware of any sample rate differences that way. use 192s for analog inserts for ADC. 16X DA is 2dB hotter than 192s out of the box. you can adjust them, but i use it like that. a little hotter to folcrom is cool for me.

have sent my 2nd 192 to black lion for mods on the analog section. my plan is 2 X 192 for inserts and 1 X DA 16X to stem out to folcrom, all clocked to big ben.

again, not aware of any timing problems this way. guess i'll have to check for that now...

Heya Raal

Thanks for the info.

questions - why get a BigBen when the DA16x has the same clock? Can't you just clock your 192(s) to the DA16x?

and- in your current configuration - how does the DA16x appear in the I/O setup? Is it a pain?

How has it all been running?

What do you think of the Folcrom?

I assume you use delay compensation on the 192 to use those 8 IO as inserts - live

How does that work out for you?

THANKS!

[Ribbonmicguy]

Hi mixerguy,

I use the same setup.

Here's how I use mine:

192i/o for inserts
da16x for summing to Tubetech SSA2A.

Sometimes if I need less insert and more output, i use 4 insert and 4 output from 192 to Tubetech.

The setup is great! My DA16x was broken a few times, need an eprom update, in the event it happened, i still have a backup of a trusty 192i/o

[raal]

Originally Posted by mixerguy

Heya Raal

Thanks for the info.

questions - why get a BigBen when the DA16x has the same clock? Can't you just clock your 192(s) to the DA16x?

because 192s are terminated, so they have to be the last thing in the chain. if you only have 1 X 192, no problem. with two, you need something that will send a separate signal to each (75ohm t-connector not possible).

and- in your current configuration - how does the DA16x appear in the I/O setup? Is it a pain?

like the DA section of a second 192, if you had the + 8 expansion card (16 total). looks like 8 analog, and 8 digital though. no big deal.

How has it all been running?

fine.

What do you think of the Folcrom?

using it with a flamingo pre. love it. can sound very neutral or hopped up with the the tranny and/or 'sound' on 'fat'. haven't used 'fat' on stereo mix. waiting on some mono gamas to try out. also have germs/API/neve and others. very flexible if you have alot of pres.

I assume you use delay compensation on the 192 to use those 8 IO as inserts - live

yes.

How does that work out for you?

thumbsup

THANKS!

hope this helps.

[mixerguy]

Heya Raal

thanks so much for the great info!

[mixerguy]

Originally Posted by Ribbonmicguy

Hi mixerguy,

I use the same setup.

Here's how I use mine:

192i/o for inserts
da16x for summing to Tubetech SSA2A.

Sometimes if I need less insert and more output, i use 4 insert and 4 output from 192 to Tubetech.

The setup is great! My DA16x was broken a few times, need an eprom update, in the event it happened, i still have a backup of a trusty 192i/o

very cool... glad to know it is working for you..... thumbsup

[godcity]

i have HD2 accel with one AD16x, one DA16x, and one 192. No dedicated clock.
Apogee tech support suggested i set it up like this. and it's been working great.

from the core card, run one digilink to the AD16x. Clocking is set to internal.
use a BNC y-jack from the word clock out of the AD16x to the in of both the DA16x and the 192 which are both set to external.
run a second digilink cable from the accel card to the 192.
in hardware setups, both apogees appear as a single 192. the final i/o 9-16 are set to digital, but they are analog. don't worry.
the apogee's have a slight bit more latency than the digi's.

enjoy!

[mixerguy]

Originally Posted by godcity

i have HD2 accel with one AD16x, one DA16x, and one 192. No dedicated clock.
Apogee tech support suggested i set it up like this. and it's been working great.

from the core card, run one digilink to the AD16x. Clocking is set to internal.
use a BNC y-jack from the word clock out of the AD16x to the in of both the DA16x and the 192 which are both set to external.
run a second digilink cable from the accel card to the 192.
in hardware setups, both apogees appear as a single 192. the final i/o 9-16 are set to digital, but they are analog. don't worry.
the apogee's have a slight bit more latency than the digi's.

enjoy!

great info - thanks!!!!!

[Jess Jackson]

I have the HD-X card for the ad16x

digi cable goes to second hd card

run BNC to 192

set 192 to EXT

clock from ad16x

[mixerguy]

Originally Posted by Je55

I have the HD-X card for the ad16x

digi cable goes to second hd card

run BNC to 192

set 192 to EXT

clock from ad16x

cool!

thanks!

[stevep]

Hey man .. you should have No problem running a 192 and 16x or as many as your computer can handle

As far as clocking... Apogee recommends using BNC T connectors and only plugging them into the INPUTs of every device after the first ones output if you checkout there website you can get a look at the manual

if you want more from the horses mouth info just call apogee... These guys are always willing to talk and they will answer any questions you might have 310 584-9394

I just finished installing another DA16X... that gives me 40 outs and 24 ins... plus i have a Sync IO ... so i did NEED there help to make sure everything was clocking from the Apogee clock


Have fun !