Anyone Try peluso P12 Yet

Joji · 25th July 2006, 01:53 PM

NOW THAT THE PELUSO P12 HAS BEEN OUT FOR A WHILE HAS ANYONE TRIED IT. I WAS AT GUITAR CENTER THE OTHERDAY AND TRIED A AKG C12VR. IT WAS VERY BASSY AND HAD A LOT OF PRESENCE. HOW DOES THE PELUSO P12 SOUND. IS IT AS GOOD AS THE C12 OR A NEUMAN U87. I IKNOW IT IS DIFFERENT BUT IS IT A HIGH END MIC.
THANKS

Joji · 26th July 2006, 09:19 PM

If you have tried it please post
thank you

FilmDingo · 29th July 2006, 10:31 PM

Bumpity

**TonyBelmont** · 2nd August 2006, 05:23 AM

I've been in sessions the last three days straight using the mic.. It's very nice! I thought it was going to sound the same as the 251 that they have, but it's something very different. The highs are kind of similar, but the mids are much more present and the low end is much fuller. I like it a lot.

Anything you would like to know about it specifically?

I'd be willing to send either of you a P12 to try.

planet red · 2nd August 2006, 05:40 AM

Try them as overheads? A lot of my favorite sounding records use c12's for OH's..

I have 414's and c42's at the studio now..

Anyone know how these would compare?

**TonyBelmont** · 2nd August 2006, 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by planet red

Try them as overheads? A lot of my favorite sounding records use c12's for OH's..

I have 414's and c42's at the studio now..

Anyone know how these would compare?

No, I was just doing vocals...

Imagine · 2nd August 2006, 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TonyBelmont

I've been in sessions the last three days straight using the mic.. It's very nice! I thought it was going to sound the same as the 251 that they have, but it's something very different. The highs are kind of similar, but the mids are much more present and the low end is much fuller. I like it a lot.

Anything you would like to know about it specifically?

I'd be willing to send either of you a P12 to try.

Tony-

How do you like it compared to the LE?

**TonyBelmont** · 2nd August 2006, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imagine

Tony-

How do you like it compared to the LE?

It's different. It seems like the LE has more of a low mid bump that has a little bit of grit to it. I think there's more oomph in the 2-3k range with the 47 LE, and is smooth throughout the high end. The P12 is more neutral in the mids with more highs and air. The P12 comes in with a bump a little higher up than the 47 LE, and seems to just keep going forever.

Norman Lindsey · 2nd August 2006, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Try them as overheads? A lot of my favorite sounding records use c12's for OH's..

I have 414's and c42's at the studio now..

Anyone know how these would compare?

i am thinking excactly the same thing. i wouldn't mind something distinctive and tangible for drum overheads. could add a bit of spice perhaps?

Matt Smith · 2nd August 2006, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TonyBelmont

I've been in sessions the last three days straight using the mic.. It's very nice! I thought it was going to sound the same as the 251 that they have, but it's something very different. The highs are kind of similar, but the mids are much more present and the low end is much fuller. I like it a lot.

Ooh, so the high end that I liked about the 251, but without the somewhat scooped sound? May have to give that one a shot...

Matt

redddog · 2nd August 2006, 07:45 PM

Tony,

I'm also very interested in that mic. I have sort of a higher range tenor (like Tom Petty/Bono - but, of course not as nice) and I was initially thinking of the 251. I think, though, that that p12 sounds to be more of a fit. I know that TP has used a C12 on virtually every record he's ever done so if it fits with him, I think it will suit my voice.

What do you think? Would you be willing to let a demo out?

Thanks

BTW, also interested in those CEMC6 for OH and acoustic guitars. What would be a fair comparison to those?

**TonyBelmont** · 2nd August 2006, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redddog

Tony,

I'm also very interested in that mic. I have sort of a higher range tenor (like Tom Petty/Bono - but, of course not as nice) and I was initially thinking of the 251. I think, though, that that p12 sounds to be more of a fit. I know that TP has used a C12 on virtually every record he's ever done so if it fits with him, I think it will suit my voice.

What do you think? Would you be willing to let a demo out?

Thanks

BTW, also interested in those CEMC6 for OH and acoustic guitars. What would be a fair comparison to those?

Yeah, it's worth a try... Just drop me a line, and I'll ship one out to you.

And the CEMC6 is reminiscent of the Schoeps mics. Great on hi hat, etc. There's a few people out there with them that love them.

redddog · 2nd August 2006, 07:59 PM

Can't wait.

Imagine · 2nd August 2006, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TonyBelmont

Yeah, it's worth a try... Just drop me a line, and I'll ship one out to you.

And the CEMC6 is reminiscent of the Schoeps mics. Great on hi hat, etc. There's a few people out there with them that love them.

Tony-

For acoustic guitar, have you tried the CEMC6? I like using the LE which has a nice full bottom sound, and the P12 brightens it up a little, but I was wondering how CEMC6 compared?

Thx.

**TonyBelmont** · 2nd August 2006, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imagine

Tony-

For acoustic guitar, have you tried the CEMC6? I like using the LE which has a nice full bottom sound, and the P12 brightens it up a little, but I was wondering how CEMC6 compared?

Thx.

No, I haven't had a chance to use the CEMC6 much yet.

NathanEldred · 2nd August 2006, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TonyBelmont

And the CEMC6 is reminiscent of the Schoeps mics.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TonyBelmont

No, I haven't had a chance to use the CEMC6 much yet.

But you've compared them to the Schoeps and know them both to be "reminiscent" of each other?

Dot · 2nd August 2006, 09:15 PM

Yes, I've used the P12. Have used all of the Peluso mics extensively.

**TonyBelmont** · 2nd August 2006, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NathanEldred

But you've compared them to the Schoeps and know them both to be "reminiscent" of each other?

No, MR smart ass.... I said, I haven't had a chance to use the CEMC6 MUCH yet... I didn't say I have done extensive tests with this microphone in comparison to another and my judgement is this.

If you want to start a fight with me that's fine. If you have used the CEMC6, or have compared it to a Schoeps, please share your experience. If you have neither to add to the discussion, then please stop with the nonsense.

NathanEldred · 2nd August 2006, 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TonyBelmont

No, MR smart ass.... I said, I haven't had a chance to use the CEMC6 MUCH yet... I didn't say I have done extensive tests with this microphone in comparison to another and my judgement is this.

If you want to start a fight with me that's fine. If you have used the CEMC6, or have compared it to a Schoeps, please share your experience. If you have neither to add to the discussion, then please stop with the nonsense.

I find it inappropriate for a moderator (i.e. you, take a look under your name) to use that kind of language or name calling. You've got a lot to learn about this industry. I asked you a legitimate question, and your response is hostile and unprofessional. I wasn't picking a fight with you. You said you find the Pelusos reminescent of the Schoeps, that's a definitive statement for someone who hasn't used the Pelusos much. I own both brands of microphones (I actually personally own two pairs of Schoeps and the Pelusos). I'll keep my personal opinions to myself since you've apparently got it covered.

**TonyBelmont** · 2nd August 2006, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NathanEldred

I find it innappropriate for a moderator (you) to use that kind of language or name calling. You've got a lot to learn about this industry. I asked you a legitimate question, and your response is hostile and unprofessional. I wasn't picking a fight with you. You said you find the Pelusos reminescent of the Schoeps, that's a definitive statement for someone who hasn't used the Pelusos much. I own both brands of microphones (I actually personally own two pairs of Schoeps and the Pelusos). I'll keep my personal opinions to myself since you've apparently got it covered.

First of all, I am not a moderator of "High End".. Michael Wagener, Chris Lambrechts, and Tobias Lindell are the moderators of this forum. So, you find it inappopriate to call you a smart ass, and I've got a lot to learn about this industry? I've been in this industry for 10 years. You don't know anything about my professional career, so please don't comment on what I "need to learn", as if you know a smidgen about anything more than me. You asked me a question and quoted my statements to seem like I contradicted myself. And if you are so hurt by me calling you a smart ass, then you are far too sensitive for me to continue any discussions with. Sorry.

I have asked you to share your experience with the CEMC6, and any opinions on it in comparison to the Schoeps, but you have chosen not to.

So, thanks for adding to the discussion.

arrogantbastard · 2nd August 2006, 09:47 PM

dammit both of you. nathan, how do the microphones compare to eachother?

redddog · 2nd August 2006, 10:02 PM

Yeah, for christ sake, Jim, I'm a doctor, not a professional audio guy arbitration moderator.

How do the damn microphones compare to each other?

Matt Smith · 3rd August 2006, 03:36 PM

All right, another dealer catfight!

Matt

kittonian · 3rd August 2006, 04:31 PM

The short answer here (and no I am not stepping into the fight in any way guys), is that the Peluso CEMC6 is directly based off of the Shoeps CMC64. It looks pretty much identical and sounds damn near identical. They are great mics and we sell stereo kits of them constantly. To date we have never had a return. I can also tell you that a major movie studio who was using strictly Schoeps CMC64's has now switched and ordered a ton of the Peluso CEMC6 mics.

Hope that answers the question. As always, you should try them for yourself if you are concerned, but honestly, at the price point of a stereo kit, you are getting a hell of a deal and the mics are worth every penny.

P.S. The R14 ribbon mic is getting some major complements from my customers as well. In fact, one customer is now coming back and buying a stereo pair of them in the next few weeks.

Imagine · 3rd August 2006, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kittonian

The short answer here (and no I am not stepping into the fight in any way guys), is that the Peluso CEMC6 is directly based off of the Shoeps CMC64. It looks pretty much identical and sounds damn near identical. They are great mics and we sell stereo kits of them constantly. To date we have never had a return. I can also tell you that a major movie studio who was using strictly Schoeps CMC64's has now switched and ordered a ton of the Peluso CEMC6 mics.

Hope that answers the question. As always, you should try them for yourself if you are concerned, but honestly, at the price point of a stereo kit, you are getting a hell of a deal and the mics are worth every penny.

P.S. The R14 ribbon mic is getting some major complements from my customers as well. In fact, one customer is now coming back and buying a stereo pair of them in the next few weeks.

Joshua,

What about using them on acoustic guitar? Am I better off using something like the CEMC6 or R14, cause both the LE and P12 sound pretty amazing when using them on a Martin D35.

AmekGuy · 3rd August 2006, 07:53 PM

I think Peluso makes some terrific mics at a REASONABLE price, which is why I plan on purchasing the CEMC6. Any info on it would be appreciated.

Crandak · 3rd August 2006, 09:43 PM

which peluso for acoustic guitar, and male baritone/tenor?

**TonyBelmont** · 3rd August 2006, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crandak

which peluso for acoustic guitar, and male baritone/tenor?

It depends... In general, I would say the 47 LE would be a great choice.. or P12, but it depends on the sound you are going for...

What kind of music are you doing?

threm · 4th August 2006, 12:12 AM

Not from a salesman

"Right off the bat, let me say that they do not sound like a schoeps CMC6 system, although they do share some characteristics."

Nevertheless some rave

"As far as the sound of these mics is concerned, that is where the similarity ends. Well....sort of. The bass responce of these CEMC mics is massive. Very impressive sounding in its robust re-interpretation of the low end of the spectrum. I can easily compare that favorably to a schoeps cmc6/mk4. It really is that good! Other aspects of the mics sound are a very smooth sounding mid range, though perhaps not the "ultimate" in that regard, but better than anything else in this price range...and well beyond for that matter. The high end is non fatigueing and detailed. Overall, I found the mics to be very transparant...but not dry. Lively...but not colored really. They just sounded "real" to me where ever I used them. I ran through all of the capsules, and thought that the cardioid cap is one of the best i've heard. Easily smoking any other condenser mic out there under a grand. And rivaling others that cost more than that. To my ears and experience with other various mics, I thought they sounded a lot like an MBHO603, but with a much nicer bottom end response. These mics have an extended frequency range that goes lower than you can hear...and higher than most stereo's can ever reproduce. What that gives you as the user is a set of mics that is really nice for 24bit recording where this extended range might come into play."
http://www.nickspicks.com/mic-peluso.htm

Crandak · 4th August 2006, 10:41 AM

I mostly do pop/rock with a little r&b.

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