To Doc Mixwell, Fletcher :TanTan IJ Research 2254 combo vs Adr Compex

[cheu78]

I'm not Fletcher nor Doc..btw..
I don't know the reissue but the original compex is a great piece but nowhere near a 2254..
It's a matter of taste and goals you want to reach.. I think it comes down to personal taste for a real answer..

If you're looking for a great colored (in the neve-ish territory) versatile compressor I'd take a look to the new BAE 10DC compressor/limiter (fwiw there are some samples on GS and a review on tape OP).

I hope this helps somehow,



Cheu

[nickelironsteel]

youre looking for a 33609 iss.12

[Doc Mixwell]

Hmmm, well, I do have experience with everything in your list but the ADR unit.

Gotta say, the BAE 10DC's are fan-phvcking-tastic!!! These compressors are headed for my rack soon, I will probably purchase one at a time.

Love em!

[shappy]

Originally Posted by Doc Mixwell

Gotta say, the BAE 10DC's are fan-phvcking-tastic!!! These compressors are headed for my rack soon, I will probably purchase one at a time.

Love em!

cool. . . how do they compare to the Phanzen?

[Portubong]

thanks Cheu Shappy and Doc, this Bae look funktastic from the review of tape op

i was looking the phanzen, this looks pretty interesting so far, i have a Raindirk Rm6 pre amp and maybe i buy a tube pre for this

could you compare with the above?

with neve 1084 preamp is near of the 2254?

The price is so good

[Portubong]

Anybody could up some samples of the Bae and the Phanzer?

[Portubong]

i am intrigued with Amtec Phanzen because i want it for mix and if i switch on the phantom power of my raindirk with the mic and i play music the speakers explode
i dont understand this part, i must use it without mic?

[Doc Mixwell]

Originally Posted by shappy

cool. . . how do they compare to the Phanzen?

There is nothing about the BAE's that are similar to the Amtec. Way different worlds! The BAE's are obviously in the vien of the Neve 2254/33609 compressor/limiters, and to my ear, just as all the BAE stuff, they sound noticeably better then the vintage counterparts. Amazing build quality and tone on the BAE stuff. The Compressor action is favorable to my ear. I dig. Strongly recommended here! I am "sold" on this option for Dual Mono Boxes. I think these things kill on the Stereo Bus.

The Amtec is a stereo compressor paying homage to the EMI "Zener" Style Compressor Limiter, without actually using Zener Diode's in the gain cell. As well, there are no active amplifier electronics whatsoever in this unit. So this means, the pre-amplifier used will affect the tonal quality of the unit greatly. Maybe use a BAE 1073MP with one!!! Or whatever!

That's the fun part, if you have a rack of flavored or not flavored mic amps, well you now have a rack full of different sounding compressors. The Amtec has Custom Input and Output Transformers that Lukasz had designed to his liking, which have a unique harmonic saturation and the compressor itself compares more to the Chandler TG1, but still very different.

Maybe if an EMI compressor had sex with GML compressor and had a baby wearing Wes Dooley's Top hat. It is very pure sounding with a wonderful warmth and inviting compression sound. It is very versatile, and can do a LOT of different tricks. Smash and Grab, Slow and GOOOEY, Round and Sweet, Crisp and Crunched. You name it. Lots of variance.

Overall, VERY high marks for originality with the PHANZEN.

Originally Posted by Portubong

thanks Cheu Shappy and Doc, this Bae look funktastic from the review of tape op

i was looking the phanzen, this looks pretty interesting so far, i have a Raindirk Rm6 pre amp and maybe i buy a tube pre for this

could you compare with the above?

with neve 1084 preamp is near of the 2254?

The price is so good

Well, I tried. No, it would sound like a Phanzen and a 1084

Originally Posted by Portubong

Anybody could up some samples of the Bae and the Phanzer?

Lukasz posted a bunch a while back. Search the Forum, I am sure you will find some. Also, Lukasz is building these up like a mad man right now. Everyone loves the PHANZEN, and customer's keep buying these little dynamos. Maybe it would be worth ordering to try out in your studio. I know you live far away, but so does Lukasz!! Compression this special knows no worldly bounds!!!

Originally Posted by Portubong

i am intrigued with Amtec Phanzen because i want it for mix and if i switch on the phantom power of my raindirk with the mic and i play music the speakers explode
i dont understand this part, i must use it without mic?

You patch your line level signals into the PHANZEN, and patch the PHANZEN into the Mic-preamp and then switch on Phantom power. You will see the PHANZEN's Gain Reduction Meter Light and the Compressor will activate. There is no microphone involved here.

With Microphones, and Phantom Powered Compressors, its always important to MUTE your monitors before making any patch's, and switching on the 48v phantom power. You have to be very careful with the gain on these devices as well, because it is very easy to cause damage to a monitor system with carelessness.

I always Mute the monitors when messing around with Pad's, Roll Off's, moving mic's, flicking Special Magic Fairy Dust Switches that Do nothing, sending phantom power to a phantom powered compressor, sending phantom to a microphone. And Disengaging phantom power.

[Portubong]

Ah ok i was thinking this too thank you Adam

I need a versatile compressor because i dont have any compressor

I know that the Bae can be versatile but if you must choose one of this two, for track drums, synths, bass and good for dum busses and stereo busses duties and for mastering which one do you choose?

Amtec with 3 pres for example Raindirk, Neve and a good tube pre or BAE 10Dc?

I make this question because i want to buy a varimu compressor too and i only want two compressors no more

Thanks for all

[Doc Mixwell]

Just leap and make records!

head and gut, heart and butt,

do it!

[Portubong]

haha yeah i know but which one do you choose for the purpose that i would want?

PHANZEN OR BAE

+ a varimu

[Doc Mixwell]

Originally Posted by Portubong

haha yeah i know but which one do you choose for the purpose that i would want?

PHANZEN OR BAE

+ a varimu

If there is a bad choice among these compressors, I have yet to find it,

Trust that all the choices are very different flavors of "awesome".

To discuss the finer points between them, I would need more information about your desire for tonal quality and compressor action.

But do savor your choice and relax with your feet up, knowing you are buying into special hardware whichever way you decide to roll the dice,

good luck!

may the force be with you,

[Portubong]

Ok, i would like a compressor versatile but with great compression and great tone if i send it things like samples of drums, bass, synths, plugins make me smile, i need infront and huge-creamy compression, i would like to combine with culture vulture that i own with a vari mu compressor for tracking and bus duties, this is why i put the compex in the list because i readed that is very good for drums and drum busses, maybe gtrs, synths, bass
chandler ltd-2 or VD cl1mkii i think that they could be great for this, they`re neveish in sound and i think that for sample plugins could be good, i dont know i never use a hardware compressor in my life i dont know the difference between all these
The thing is to find a good friend for the varimu but i would like to choose the best option

Thank you for your help

[iziphonics]

Originally Posted by Portubong

Ah ok i was thinking this too thank you Adam

I need a versatile compressor because i dont have any compressor

I know that the Bae can be versatile but if you must choose one of this two, for track drums, synths, bass and good for dum busses and stereo busses duties and for mastering which one do you choose?

Amtec with 3 pres for example Raindirk, Neve and a good tube pre or BAE 10Dc?

I make this question because i want to buy a varimu compressor too and i only want two compressors no more

Thanks for all

Hi Portubong,

I'm using Phanzen everyday and it's an amazing compressor. It has this wonderful smoothing factor and the idea of driving the output with mic preamp is fantastic! It gives a great array of sonic possibilities. I love the overshoot function that works as a subtle transient modulator. Sweeeeeet on drums! But it's a very problematic compressor when it comes to tracking. You'd need 2 preamps- one for driving the source (mic or DI) and the other for driving the Phanzen. So it's rather an mixing device, very flexible and great sounding one.
Hope it helps!

[Joseph Egan]

The Phanzen is an amazing compressor. Love the way it shapes Snare and Kick.